kosma%human-torch@STC.LOCKHEED.COM (Monty Kosma) (06/30/90)
Hi net...
so I'm getting a DJ+ (I finally decided)...the $150 rebate makes it too
good a deal to pass up.
Anyway, I'd appreciate comments out there from anybody who's got one on
the following:
1. What kind of cable do I need to connect it up (if there is
a choice, parallel is preferable) ?
2. Did HP ever come out with an improved ink? I heard rumor of this,
that there was some ink that had less problems with smearing.
3. I've heard rumor of a much-improved preferences driver for the DJ+.
Could somebody send this to me, or tell me where to ftp it?
4. Any suggestions on other "essential" software I should get (I've
got AmigaTeX, of course :-)
thanks!
monty
kosma@human-torch.lasc-research.lockheed.comcharles@hpcvca.CV.HP.COM (Charles Brown) (07/03/90)
> so I'm getting a DJ+ (I finally decided)...the $150 rebate makes it > too good a deal to pass up. I ALSO bought one because I was impressed with the benefit/cost. > 1. What kind of cable do I need to connect it up (if there is > a choice, parallel is preferable) ? I used the same parallel cable as I used with my previous printer. It is your garden variety IBM cable. My Amiga is an A2000. > 2. Did HP ever come out with an improved ink? I heard rumor of this, > that there was some ink that had less problems with smearing. Must have. I have had my DJ+ several months and have had no problem with smearing. It stands up reasonably well (not perfectly) to highlighter pens. > 3. I've heard rumor of a much-improved preferences driver for the DJ+. > Could somebody send this to me, or tell me where to ftp it? I am using the one that comes with WB1.3.2. Seems to work. > 4. Any suggestions on other "essential" software I should get (I've > got AmigaTeX, of course :-) > monty Thats what I am using. I think you will be pleased. I have been. -- Charles Brown charles@cv.hp.com or charles%hpcvca@hplabs.hp.com or hplabs!hpcvca!charles or "Hey you!" Working for but not representing my employer, Hewlett-Packard.
athomas@peg.UUCP (07/10/90)
Folks, I have used a HP Deskjet+ with my Mac SE and Amiga 500 for a few months now now. Salient Points: 1. Instead of buying new cartridges, I inject a few ml of Quink ink through the top orifice. Works perfectly as far as I can tell. 2. The Workbench Deskjet driver seems to present no probs. 3. If you use PagesetterII see the Bug Bytes column in Vol 5 #3 March 1990. Cheers Astroboy, Australia
davemad@pnet01.cts.com (Dave Madsen) (07/13/90)
In article <28537@pnet01.cts.com> athomas@peg.UUCP writes: >Salient Points: > > 1. Instead of buying new cartridges, I inject a few ml of > Quink ink through the top orifice. Works perfectly as far > as I can tell. As for injecting your own ink, can you also use India ink or Calligrapher's ink? I have a lot of that laying around just itching to be used. It is also waterproof. As for actually injecting it, I assume the orifice you speak of is the one in the center of the arrow on the top of the ink cartridge? > 3. If you use PagesetterII see the Bug Bytes column in Vol 5 #3 > March 1990. I use PageSetterII with my DeskJet and I think I know of the problem of which you speak. Is it in regards to the offsetting of the print margins? In any case, I don't have access to the "Bug Bytes column in Vol 5 #3 March 1990" of which you speak. Would it be possible for you to post/mail the information regarding the use of PageSetterII with a DeskJet? I appreciate any information that can be given. Thanks! -----------------------------------------------------+------------------------+ UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd ucsd nosc}!crash!pnet01!davemad + Dave R. Madsen + ARPA: crash!pnet01!davemad@nosc.mil + Computer Science Major + INET: davemad@pnet01.cts.com + Iowa State University + -----------------------------------------------------+------------------------+
phoenix@ms.uky.edu (R'ykandar Korra'ti) (07/15/90)
In article <3486@crash.cts.com> davemad@pnet01.cts.com (Dave Madsen) writes: >As for injecting your own ink, can you also use India ink or >Calligrapher's ink? I have a lot of that laying around just itching to >be used. It is also waterproof. ^^^^^^^^^^ Nononononononononononononononononononono! Bad bad bad! Verrrrrry bad! You _must_ use water-soluable ink with inkjets, otherwise the small amount of drying you get each time you turn the printer off for a few hours (or days, or whatever) will _permanently_ clog the jets and probably the ink propulsion mechanism as well. This is what we in "the bidnez" :-) call a "Bad Thing." It's what Xerox calls a $350 repair (that's how much it would cost to replace the mechanism on the C150 colour inkjet, one of which I own). You can, however, use a suitably high-grade dilute WATER SOLUABLE ink. (The normal ink provided for use in such printers is dilute. Non-dilute or concentrated ink is basically a paste and comes in tubes. It's used for block and printing-press printing.) An ink I've been using with success (thanks to whoever told me about it - I forget your name, sorry) is Dr. P. H. Martin's Transparent Watercolours, made and sold by Salis International, Inc (hopefully, no pun intended.) Their number is 800/843-8293; the colours to by for the C150 are black, cadmium yellow, magenta, and turquoise. I don't know how well the non-black colours would translate to your printer, because I've never used an HP. By the way, the only problem you have with reusing ink cartridges that include their own nozzle assemblies is that you have to start cleaning them out. This is messy, and made inkjets impractical for a while. I have to give my C150 a major cleaning every so often to keep print quality acceptable. The "replace the nozzles every time" approach is a cure for this problem. - R'ykandar. -- | R'ykandar Korra'ti | Editor: LOW ORBIT Science and Fiction | PLink: Skywise | | Elfinkind, Unite! | phoenix@ms.uky.edu | phoenix%ms.uky.edu@ukcc.bitnet | | "Hi! We're evangelical Hari-Krishna pedophiles for LaRouche! Would you like | | to see some of our fine Amway products?" - TRHMS | CIS 72406,370/LOW ORBIT |
space@ncc1701.stgt.sub.org (Lars Soltau) (07/17/90)
In article <15638@s.ms.uky.edu> phoenix@ms.uky.edu (R'ykandar Korra'ti) writes: >In article <3486@crash.cts.com> davemad@pnet01.cts.com (Dave Madsen) writes: >>As for injecting your own ink, can you also use India ink or >>Calligrapher's ink? I have a lot of that laying around just itching to >>be used. It is also waterproof. > ^^^^^^^^^^ > Nononononononononononononononononononono! Bad bad bad! Verrrrrry bad! > You _must_ use water-soluable ink with inkjets, otherwise the small >amount of drying you get each time you turn the printer off for a few hours >(or days, or whatever) will _permanently_ clog the jets and probably the >ink propulsion mechanism as well. This is what we in "the bidnez" :-) call >a "Bad Thing." It's what Xerox calls a $350 repair (that's how much it would >cost to replace the mechanism on the C150 colour inkjet, one of which I own). While I can not comment on using waterproof ink with the DeskJets, it is not that big a problem if the jets get clogged because every ink cartridge has its own jets. -- Lars Soltau bang: <insert ridiculously long path> Bix: -- no bucks -- smart: space@ncc1701.stgt.sub.org
davemad@pnet01.cts.com (Dave Madsen) (07/17/90)
In article <28867@pnet01.cts.com> phoenix@ms.uky.edu (R'ykandar Korra'ti) writes: > Nononononononononononononononononononono! Bad bad bad! Verrrrrry bad! > You _must_ use water-soluable ink with inkjets, otherwise the small > amount of drying you get each time you turn the printer off for a few hours > (or days, or whatever) will _permanently_ clog the jets and probably the > ink propulsion mechanism as well. This is what we in "the bidnez" :-) call Yikes! That would be bad news. Oh well, it never hurts to ask I suppose (ouch!) ;)... I'm not sure if I am even going to bother to try to refill the cartridges since they are relatively inexpensive anyway. However, I will keep your selection of ink in mind in case I feel the urge to "dabble." Thanks for the warning/tips! -----------------------------------------------------+------------------------+ UUCP: {hplabs!hp-sdd ucsd nosc}!crash!pnet01!davemad + Dave R. Madsen + ARPA: crash!pnet01!davemad@nosc.mil + Computer Science Major + INET: davemad@pnet01.cts.com + Iowa State University + -----------------------------------------------------+------------------------+
rnm@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Marsanyi) (07/21/90)
There's an outfit called Grphic Utilities that makes refills for the car- tridges that work fine, half the price of a new cartridge. Graphic Utilities PO Box 332 Fort Fairfield, Maine 04742
phoenix@ms.uky.edu (R'ykandar Korra'ti) (07/21/90)
In article <658@ncc1701.stgt.sub.org> space@ncc1701.stgt.sub.org (Lars Soltau) writes: >While I can not comment on using waterproof ink with the DeskJets, it is not >that big a problem if the jets get clogged because every ink cartridge has its >own jets. As I stated later in the message. However, each cartridge does _not_ necessarily have a complete printing mechanism. I don't know how the Deskjet works completely, but why take chances? After all, if HP thought non-water- soluable inks were safe, they'd market them - water soluability is one of the biggest (if not _the_ biggest) complaint I hear about inkjet printers. Additionally, most non-watersoluable inks I've messed about with can't be cleaned up by _anything_ once dry. (See: acrylic-based inks, paints, or anything else.) Some of this stuff on the rollers or in any part of the mechanism would be quite problematic. All around, it's not a safe thing to do. Besides, there _are_ good, _cheap_, _safe_, water-soluable inks around. If you _must_ have a document be waterproof (well, as waterproof as paper can get), go photocopy the printout. The resolution of the average good-quality copier is better than any inkjet you're likely to have on your desk (i.e. >300dpi). Alternately, laminate the stupid thing. :-) - R'ykandar. PS: Thanks to the people who sent messages about Post V1.1 - I solved by problem by changing the way I was invoking ConMan. -- | R'ykandar Korra'ti | Editor: LOW ORBIT Science and Fiction | PLink: Skywise | | Elfinkind, Unite! | phoenix@ms.uky.edu | phoenix%ms.uky.edu@ukcc.bitnet | | "Hi! We're evangelical Hari-Krishna pedophiles for LaRouche! Would you like | | to see some of our fine Amway products?" - TRHMS | CIS 72406,370/LOW ORBIT |
charles@hpcvca.CV.HP.COM (Charles Brown) (07/24/90)
>> While I can not comment on using waterproof ink with the DeskJets, it >> is not that big a problem if the jets get clogged because every ink >> cartridge has its own jets. > As I stated later in the message. However, each cartridge does > _not_ necessarily have a complete printing mechanism. I don't know how > the Deskjet works completely, but why take chances? > - R'ykandar. Each cartridge has the complete printing mechanism. The printer sends electrical signals to the cartridge and slides it across the page. The most likely thing to happen from injecting some weird ink into the cartridge would be to clog that cartridge. But since you will be starting from an empty cartridge, that is no loss. Once my cartridge is empty I plan to do exactly that. The cost is right. -- Charles Brown charles@cv.hp.com or charles%hpcvca@hplabs.hp.com or hplabs!hpcvca!charles or "Hey you!" Not representing my employer. Just because I work for HP doesn't mean I really know anything about HP products. No warrantee expressed or implied. Your mileage may vary.