[comp.sys.amiga] Populous

spierce@pnet01.cts.com (Stuart Pierce) (06/26/89)

I've started having some severe problems with Populous.  It worked fine on the
first 3 worlds (1,4,7), but when I got to world 11 problems began.  The first
thing I noticed was that several words were missing from the beginning screen,
i.e. WATER IS _______.  I rebooted the machine, tried again, and I got the
initial screen correctly.  About halfway into the game, I clicked on the zoom
to knight icon.  The screen was filled with knights (I only had 1), my people
fighting the other people (I had no people there), and brown vertical bars
were all over the screen.  The garbage even started trashing the icon controls
in the bottom right corner.  I clicked the zoom to leader icon, and everything
went back to normal.  I repeated this several times and got garbage everytime.
So, I decided to try to finish the game and not click on that icon.  I found
the same trashed screens as I went to the enemy territory.  Then my cursor
started working erratically.  Finally, the game just stopped, although the
music continued in the background, none of the controls did anything.
Has anyone else had these problems with Populous?  

Stuart Pierce

jdutka@wpi.wpi.edu (John Dutka) (07/05/89)

In article <4467@crash.cts.com> spierce@pnet01.cts.com (Stuart Pierce) writes:
>Has anyone else had these problems with Populous?  
>Stuart Pierce

No, but several from the 1st batch EA shipped were bad.


John Dutka
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unland@cbmvax.UUCP (Rick Unland - Regional Support) (07/05/89)

I had to remove my CSA 030/Dragstrip to get Populus to run, I know that sounds
drastic for a game but I think it is worth it.  I have not done anything
productive since I started playing it.  I am up to Nimihill the first ice 
world. I was unable to run it on an A2500 in 020 mode but ran fine in 68000,
It does not work on a CSA Midget or the Ronin Cards. I called EA and they
verified that the programmer knows it works only on 68000's.  I asked 
if they planned to do an upgrade and the guy did not know. I planned to call
EA again on wednesday and flame them a little more for being incompatible.

	BTW I think the game is excelent and is great to play, The graphics
are fantastic and all the things going on make it a different game every time.
The only complaint I have other than not being compatible, is response time on
raising or lowering the ground or selecting attributes, it's somewhat slow and
can get confused as to the actual position of the curser when the left mouse
button is pressed,  This would be taken care of if I could use it on the 
othirty 2620 or anything else with thirtytwo bit memory.  I hear that it can 
be made to work on these processors with a program called "superdecigel".
If anyone knows where this can be had and if it is PD like the original Decigel
then please Email me.
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rouaix@inria.inria.fr (Francois Rouaix) (07/05/89)

In article <7209@cbmvax.UUCP> unland@cbmvax.UUCP (Rick Unland - Regional Support) writes:
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> BTW I think the game is excelent and is great to play, The graphics
>are fantastic and all the things going on make it a different game every time.

Sure ! Populous has been available in France for a few monthes already.
It's definitely a must. I don't remember reading a posting about
the two-player mode. I tried this one, with a 2400bps modem, and it works
just fine. We were able to finish the game, without getting ever
desynchronized. You can exchange messages with your opponent.
You can save game and start back later.
Concerning the game playability, there is a light drawback.
The levels (there are 500 of them) are not really progressive.
Some levels around 80 are much more difficult to play than later levels.

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MFM1%LEHIGH.BITNET@ibm1.cc.lehigh.edu (mark masters) (07/22/89)

Just a quick question about populous.  How Can I back it up?
mark <mfm1@lehigh>

evmaster@sdrc.UUCP (System Interface Library) (09/29/89)

Has anyone tried Populous on a 2500 ? I just got it and even with FastMem
off it won't run.  I get the title screen and it will run the demo but after
choosing the game type it cleasrs the screen and goes out to lunch. 8-(



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usenet@saturn.ucsc.edu (Usenet News Account) (09/30/89)

Populous.
From: terry@helios (Terry Ricketts)
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pl@etana.tut.fi (Lehtinen Pertti) (10/02/89)

From article <840@sdrc.UUCP>, by evmaster@sdrc.UUCP (System Interface Library):
> Has anyone tried Populous on a 2500 ? I just got it and even with FastMem
> off it won't run.  I get the title screen and it will run the demo but after
> choosing the game type it cleasrs the screen and goes out to lunch. 8-(
> 

	I experienced same problems with LUCAS-board (MC68020) and
	it seems (shame again) that copy protection used with game
	doesn't work with 68020.

	Usually ( as with Elite and Carrier Command) this
	cames from disk timing made with delay loops (which
	are too 'fast' with 'turbo').


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C503719@umcvmb.missouri.edu (Baird McIntosh) (10/04/89)

Jerry Pournelle mentions having this same problem in his October Chaos Manor
article.  I usually don't read BYTE, but there was a posting about this
article because Mr. Pournelle was talking semi-favorably about the Amiga.

Anywho, you need to use the 68000 fallback mode to run Populous.  When the
Amiga starts booting, hold down both mouse buttons and the CPU selection
screen will appear.  Choose 68000 (instead of 68020 or UNIX) and the
machine will boot up without the 68020 and without the 2 megs of 32 bit
memory that it uses.  The game should work now.  Maybe there will be an
update to the game to fix this bug since the game should work on all
Amigas.

Hope this is helpful, and sorry to post to comp.sys.amiga, but mail
bounced... (and that isn't really any excuse :-)

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lawsonse@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Cy_Borg) (07/24/90)

I can't get Populous to run on my A3000 on either 1.3 OR 2.0!

It ran fine on my A2000 under 1.3.  Is the 68030 the culprit here?  Is there
a workaround for getting it going?

Thanks in advance,

Shannon Lawson

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givler@cbmvax.commodore.com (Greg Givler - Product Assurance) (07/24/90)

In article <25393@snow-white.udel.EDU> lawsonse@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Cy_Borg) writes:
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>I can't get Populous to run on my A3000 on either 1.3 OR 2.0!
>
>It ran fine on my A2000 under 1.3.  Is the 68030 the culprit here?  Is there
>a workaround for getting it going?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Shannon Lawson
>
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I would not doubt that the culprit is the 030. If EA makes a version that is 
not copy-protected, or if there is a way to launch the program from Workbench
then you could use the CPU NOCACHE option, that worked for me with Dr T's 
music software.

Greg

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leeg@mcrware.UUCP (Lee Glen) (07/24/90)

In article <25393@snow-white.udel.EDU> lawsonse@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Cy_Borg) writes:
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>I can't get Populous to run on my A3000 on either 1.3 OR 2.0!
>
>Shannon Lawson

Gee, it runs fine on mine (in either O.S.).

hclausen@adspdk.CBMNET (Henrik Clausen) (07/31/90)

>In article <13399@cbmvax.commodore.com> givler@cbmvax.commodore.com (Greg Givler - Product Assurance) writes:
>In article <25393@snow-white.udel.EDU> lawsonse@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Cy_Borg) writes:
>>I can't get Populous to run on my A3000 on either 1.3 OR 2.0!
>I would not doubt that the culprit is the 030. If EA makes a version that is 
>not copy-protected, or if there is a way to launch the program from Workbench
>then you could use the CPU NOCACHE option, 

   Populous is CPU timed and runs way too fast on 32 bit systems. Look at the
self-running demo in the beginning!
   Decently written games are Video timed.

   That ended that game for me - I moved into SimCity, which I like better
anyway!

                                  -Henrik

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