s8825698@mqcomp.mqcc.mq.OZ (Daniel Bielik) (07/27/90)
In Australia, Commodore has left thousands of Amiga-1000 owners with absolutely no upgrade path other than to try and sell their 1000 through the newspapers (for which, I can tell you, there is not much demand). Why, when there was such a successful upgrade campaign performed in the US for people to upgrade their now obsolete machines was the same thing not done here in Australia. It would seem that C= has absolutely no regard for its customers (proven time and time again - - come and prove me wrong Commodore), not only that but they are foregoing possible revenue (and further continued revenue through my purchasing more C= equipment through my supposed satisfaction) and my continued support as an Amiga owner. But, then what would a company that was brought up on charges of breaches of the Trade Practices act through price fixing know about the basics of competition in a capitalist society. Maybe, I might teach them (I invite others to join if they so wish) by dumping my 1000 for what ever I can get for it and buying (heaven help me) a Mac or a PC. Any answers, Commodore? Danny Bielik Poor Computing Student And Disgruntled Amiga-1000 owner.
ifarqhar@mqccsunc.mqcc.mq.oz.au (Ian Farquhar) (07/27/90)
In article <337@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> s8825698@mqcomp (Daniel Bielik) writes: >In Australia, Commodore has left thousands of Amiga-1000 owners with >absolutely no upgrade path other than to try and sell their 1000 through the >newspapers (for which, I can tell you, there is not much demand). Rubbish! I owned an A1000, which was upgraded last year to an A2000 in a Commodore sponsored upgrade/promotion. You could have done this as well. >Why, when there was such a successful upgrade campaign performed in the US >for people to upgrade their now obsolete machines was the same thing not >done here in Australia. It would seem that C= has absolutely no regard for >its customers (proven time and time again - - come and prove me wrong >Commodore), not only that but they are foregoing possible revenue (and further >continued revenue through my purchasing more C= equipment through my supposed >satisfaction) and my continued support as an Amiga owner. As I said, CBM did have at least one upgrade offer which was quite widely advertised, so the fact that you did not take advantage of it is your problem, not CBM's. As for CBM's regard for customers, you might like to consider this. CBM Australia has negotiated a deal with this University (your university) that enables students to obtain CBM computers at substantially reduced prices. A similar deal has been introduced in several other universities across Australia. This deal also gives you access to technical support, both internal to the university (me) and external (through Hard Disk Cafe). CBM has invested a considerable amount of money in this venture, and I think that its actions so far have constituted "regard for its customers". >But, then what would a company that was brought up on charges of breaches of >the Trade Practices act through price fixing know about the basics of >competition in a capitalist society. Or perhaps it was, as the judge in the case pointed out, bad legal advice which CBM undoubtedly got. Besides, screwing the public is the basis for a capitalist society :) >Maybe, I might teach them (I invite others to join if they so wish) by dumping >my 1000 for what ever I can get for it and buying (heaven help me) a Mac or >a PC. It's your loss. It is interesting to note that by far the stupidest questions I get at the OCS come from Mac and PC owners. Perhaps you feel a desire to join their ranks? >Any answers, Commodore? As you want answers, I have faxed this article to CBM Australia. I will relay their response back to you. -- Ian Farquhar Phone : (612) 805-7420 Office of Computing Services Fax : (612) 805-7433 Macquarie University NSW 2109 Also : (612) 805-7205
mrush@csuchico.edu (Matt "C P." Rush) (08/03/90)
In article <337@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> s8825698@mqcomp (Daniel Bielik) writes: >In Australia, Commodore has left thousands of Amiga-1000 owners with >absolutely no upgrade path other than to try and sell their 1000 through the >newspapers (for which, I can tell you, there is not much demand). > >Why, when there was such a successful upgrade campaign performed in the US >for people to upgrade their now obsolete machines was the same thing not >done here in Australia. It would seem that C= has absolutely no regard for >its customers (proven time and time again - - come and prove me wrong >Commodore), not only that but they are foregoing possible revenue (and further >continued revenue through my purchasing more C= equipment through my supposed >satisfaction) and my continued support as an Amiga owner. This is unfortunate that CBM has chosen to omit Australia from it upgrade program. However... >Maybe, I might teach them (I invite others to join if they so wish) by dumping >my 1000 for what ever I can get for it and buying (heaven help me) a Mac or >a PC. Gosh, yes! After all, IBM certainly offered a terrific plan to upgrade all those PC jrs! And true, Apple will upgrade an old Mac 128 to a Mac Plus for about $2000 (new motherboard, ROMs, etc.) and there is STILL some question whether or not System 7 will run on anything less than a Mac II... I think a LOT of bandwidth might be saved if we stop bashing CBM until AFTER 2.0 upgrades are OFFICIALLY released for all CURRENTLY produced machines. I would like to hope that C= will wait until after they have resolved upgrades to current products BEFORE they worry about retrofitting discontinued products. Sorry, if this seems like a flame, it's more a venting of steam. >Any answers, Commodore? > >Danny Bielik >Poor Computing Student >And Disgruntled Amiga-1000 owner. -- Matt *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* % Progress is an up-hill battle % mrush@csuchico.edu % % against backwards compatibility. % mrush@cscihp.UUCP % % % % Coming Soon: mrush@ecst.csuchico.edu % *~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~* This is a SCHOOL! Do you think they even CARE about MY opinions?!
a665@mindlink.UUCP (Anthon Pang) (08/03/90)
> mrush@csuchico.edu writes: > Gosh, yes! After all, IBM certainly offered a terrific plan to > upgrade all those PC jrs! Yeah, only a couple grand to upgrade to a PS/1 :)
JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) (08/04/90)
Matt "C P." Rush) says: > >In article <337@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz> s8825698@mqcomp (Daniel Bielik) writes: >>In Australia, Commodore has left thousands of Amiga-1000 owners with >>absolutely no upgrade path other than to try and sell their 1000 through the >>newspapers (for which, I can tell you, there is not much demand). >> >>Why, when there was such a successful upgrade campaign performed in the US >>for people to upgrade their now obsolete machines was the same thing not >>done here in Australia? > >>Maybe, I might teach them by dumping my 1000 for whatever I can get >>for it and buying (heaven help me) a Mac or a PC. > >Gosh, yes! After all, IBM certainly offered a terrific plan to upgrade >all those PC jrs! And true, Apple will upgrade an old Mac 128 to a Mac r >Plus for about $2000 (new motherboard, ROMs, etc.) > >I think a LOT of bandwidth might be saved if we stop bashing CBM until >AFTER 2.0 upgrades are OFFICIALLY released for all CURRENTLY produced >machines. I agree also that Commodore should have provided an upgrade path for it's buyers down under. However, why not try a 3rd party upgrade path? I recommend the Rejuvinator. It will bring your 1000 up to 2000 level so you can run 2.0, whatever the final form. Kurt -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- || Kurt Tappe (215) 363-9485 || Amigas, Macs, IBM's, C-64's, NeXTs, || || 184 W. Valley Hill Rd. || Apple ]['s.... I use 'em all. || || Malvern, PA 19355-2214 || (and in that order too! ;-) || || jkt100@psuvm.psu.edu --------------------------------------|| || jkt100@psuvm.bitnet jkt100%psuvm.bitnet@psuvax1 QLink: KurtTappe || -----------------------------------------------------------------------