owwhite@nmsu.edu (Owen White) (07/31/90)
hello i am working with two amigas null modemed to each other and i was wondering if there was anyway to use one amiga as a terminal for the other i am thinking of another cli being controlled by the amiga on the null modem am i making sense. is this possible? what do i do? please reply to owwhite.nmsu.edu thanks
Sylvain@speedy.CAM.ORG (Sylvain Tremblay) (08/01/90)
>In article <OWWHITE.90Jul31044847@dante.nmsu.edu> owwhite@nmsu.edu (Owen White) writes: >hello > >i am working with two amigas null modemed to each other >and i was wondering if there was anyway to use one amiga >as a terminal for the other > >i am thinking of another cli being controlled by the amiga on the >null modem > >am i making sense. is this possible? what do i do? > >please reply to owwhite.nmsu.edu > >thanks Try to type on a SHELL of the remote computer NEWSHELL aux: And use a terminal software on the other computer as a SHELL of the other. -- Sylvain __ +-----------------------------------------------------------------///------+ | Sylvain Tremblay INTERNET: Sylvain@speedy.CAM.ORG __ /// /| | | Montreal, Qc, Canada CIS: 71640,666 \\\/// # | | | (514) 256-3779 or: 71640.666@compuserve.com \XX/ _|_ | +--------------------------------------------------------------------------+
zap@lysator.liu.se (H Andersson) (08/01/90)
owwhite@nmsu.edu (Owen White) writes: >hello >i am working with two amigas null modemed to each other >and i was wondering if there was anyway to use one amiga >as a terminal for the other >i am thinking of another cli being controlled by the amiga on the >null modem >am i making sense. is this possible? what do i do? >please reply to owwhite.nmsu.edu >thanks This is one of the third simplest things in ze world, if you run 1.3 AMigaDOS. You have to type the following (difficult :-) sequence: Mount aux: Newshell aux: H That's it! You have a multi-user Amiga. Now problem is, all those "Please insert disk in bla bla bl drive" but you can make a program that kills thoseose: By setting a pointer in the process control block for your process, called ehm... frogto, but window something, to -1, (it's NUL for workbench screen for those requesters and windowpointer if oyou want them to pop up on other screens) then all requesters will work as if you pressed CANCEL. This is not so bad as it sounds, since you will never get stuck just because you cant insert a disk that may be three miles away.... The Amiga - a multi-user machine! /Z Haakan 'ZAP' Andersson
rda913r@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (r.s. 8848153 harris) (08/02/90)
Sylvain@speedy.CAM.ORG (Sylvain Tremblay) writes: >>In article <OWWHITE.90Jul31044847@dante.nmsu.edu> owwhite@nmsu.edu (Owen White) writes: >> >>i am thinking of another cli being controlled by the amiga on the >>null modem >NEWSHELL aux: >And use a terminal software on the other computer as a SHELL of the other. and how do you get aux: to use a speed, other than the speed in preferences. something like the newcon: sequence of newcon:name/screensize/etc would be great rik. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rik Harris - Monash University, Caulfield Campus (was Chisholm Institute) rda913r@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au <-- what the computer says it is rda913r@monu6.cc.monash.oz[.au] <-- SEEMS to work more reliably Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (08/06/90)
In <1990Aug2.020727.19107@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, rda913r@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (r.s. 8848153 harris) writes: >Sylvain@speedy.CAM.ORG (Sylvain Tremblay) writes: > >>>In article <OWWHITE.90Jul31044847@dante.nmsu.edu> owwhite@nmsu.edu (Owen White) writes: >>> >>>i am thinking of another cli being controlled by the amiga on the >>>null modem > >>NEWSHELL aux: > >>And use a terminal software on the other computer as a SHELL of the other. > >and how do you get aux: to use a speed, other than the speed in preferences. > As far as I know, you can't, but what's wrong with using Preferences? -larry -- Sex is better than logic, but I can't prove it. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
edp367s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Rik Harris) (08/08/90)
lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) writes: >In <1990Aug2.020727.19107@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, rda913r@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (r.s. 8848153 harris) writes: >>Sylvain@speedy.CAM.ORG (Sylvain Tremblay) writes: >> >>>>In article <OWWHITE.90Jul31044847@dante.nmsu.edu> owwhite@nmsu.edu (Owen White) writes: >>>> >>>>i am thinking of another cli being controlled by the amiga on the >>>>null modem >> >>>NEWSHELL aux: >> >>>And use a terminal software on the other computer as a SHELL of the other. >> >>and how do you get aux: to use a speed, other than the speed in preferences. >> >As far as I know, you can't, but what's wrong with using Preferences? I have my modem set up to autoanswer, and I want to get a SHELL over the modem. The modem will select the baud rate that the other modem is using, and will vary between 300 and 2400 bps. Also, I want to be able to use my friends Amiga at 9600 (or more if they will take it) without mucking around with the Preferences (eeeek, user friendly!!!). My computer runs most of the time without supervision, and I want to be able to call up from other places and log in. rik. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rik Harris - Monash University, Caulfield Campus (was Chisholm Institute) rda913r@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au <-- what the computer says it is rda913r@monu6.cc.monash.oz[.au] <-- SEEMS to work more reliably Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (08/09/90)
In <1990Aug8.033022.2309@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, edp367s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Rik Harris) writes: >lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) writes: > >>In <1990Aug2.020727.19107@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, rda913r@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (r.s. 8848153 harris) writes: >>>Sylvain@speedy.CAM.ORG (Sylvain Tremblay) writes: >>> >>>>>In article <OWWHITE.90Jul31044847@dante.nmsu.edu> owwhite@nmsu.edu (Owen White) writes: >>>>> >>>>>i am thinking of another cli being controlled by the amiga on the >>>>>null modem >>> >>>>NEWSHELL aux: >>> >>>>And use a terminal software on the other computer as a SHELL of the other. >>> >>>and how do you get aux: to use a speed, other than the speed in preferences. >>> > >>As far as I know, you can't, but what's wrong with using Preferences? > >I have my modem set up to autoanswer, and I want to get a SHELL over the modem. > >The modem will select the baud rate that the other modem is using, and will >vary between 300 and 2400 bps. Also, I want to be able to use my friends Amiga >at 9600 (or more if they will take it) without mucking around with the >Preferences (eeeek, user friendly!!!). > >My computer runs most of the time without supervision, and I want to be able >to call up from other places and log in. Well, in that case, AUX: won't do it for you. You might want to take a look at ROBBS, which consists of a couple of modules that allow you to do some neat things with the serial port and/or screen. SerMod will attach the serial port to another program or to an ARexx script, and allows changing communication paramters 'on the fly'. You could use SerMod and a script to implement a full BBS, with 'escape to shell' for designated users, with or without password protection. ROBBS was posted to comp.sys.amiga.sources and binaries a few months ago. It can also be found on Compuserve, in LIB 4 of Amigatech. -larry -- Sex is better than logic, but I can't prove it. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
David.Plummer@f70.n140.z1.FIDONET.ORG (David Plummer) (08/09/90)
For some reason, I thought the command to start a remote serial shell was: Newshell AUX: AUX: (for input and output? maybe it's only ARP that needs this) Haven't got my terminal anymore, so I can't remember for sure. -- David Plummer - via FidoNet node 1:140/22 UUCP: ...!alberta!dvinci!weyr!70!David.Plummer Domain: David.Plummer@f70.n140.z1.FIDONET.ORG Standard Disclaimers Apply...
phoenix@ms.uky.edu (R'ykandar Korra'ti) (08/11/90)
In article <1990Aug8.033022.2309@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, edp367s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Rik Harris) writes: >I have my modem set up to autoanswer, and I want to get a SHELL over the >modem. >The modem will select the baud rate that the other modem is using, and will >vary between 300 and 2400 bps. Try getting a copy of GETTY (it's with UUCP V1.06 distribution). It will answer the phone, request a login, and run whatever programme you request it to run. This should work with a script as well (don't forget to set the script bit - this will require V1.3, but then again, so does the rest of what you're trying.) It will also autobaud. I'm not sure how Getty will handle having to share the serial port with a command line, but it's worth a try. - R'ykandar. -- | R'ykandar Korra'ti | Editor: LOW ORBIT Science and Fiction | PLink: Skywise | | Elfinkind, Unite! | phoenix@ms.uky.edu | phoenix%ms.uky.edu@ukcc.bitnet | | "Hi! We're evangelical Hari-Krishna pedophiles for LaRouche! Would you like | | to see some of our fine Amway products?" - TRHMS | CIS 72406,370/LOW ORBIT |
edp367s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Rik Harris) (08/12/90)
phoenix@ms.uky.edu (R'ykandar Korra'ti) writes: >In article <1990Aug8.033022.2309@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, > edp367s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Rik Harris) writes: >>I have my modem set up to autoanswer, and I want to get a SHELL over the >>modem. >>The modem will select the baud rate that the other modem is using, and will >>vary between 300 and 2400 bps. > Try getting a copy of GETTY (it's with UUCP V1.06 distribution). It will >answer the phone, request a login, and run whatever programme you request it >to run. This should work with a script as well (don't forget to set the script >bit - this will require V1.3, but then again, so does the rest of what you're >trying.) It will also autobaud. I am using GETTY, but what I need is a way to get the shell to run on the serial port at the speed of the login. GETTY does autobaud, but I need the script that GETTY executes to give me a shell to get the shell to run at the correct speed. By default, AUX: uses the preferences setting, not the setting that GETTY has autobauded to. > I'm not sure how Getty will handle having to share the serial port with >a command line, but it's worth a try. This is not a problem, the problem is above. rik ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Rik Harris - Monash University, Caulfield Campus (was Chisholm Institute) edp367s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au <-- what the computer says it is edp367s@monu6.cc.monash.oz[.au] <-- SEEMS to work more reliably Build a system that even a fool can use, and only a fool will want to use it. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
phoenix@ms.uky.edu (Dan Chaney) (08/13/90)
In article <1990Aug12.113606.15833@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> edp367s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Rik Harris) writes: >I am using GETTY, but what I need is a way to get the shell to run on >the serial port at the speed of the login. GETTY does autobaud, but I >need the script that GETTY executes to give me a shell to get the shell >to run at the correct speed. By default, AUX: uses the preferences setting, >not the setting that GETTY has autobauded to. OK; cheap and dirty solution. AUX: will also use a value set up in the mountlist. Try setting up three or four devices which are clones of AUX: but expecting different baud rates. (I think you can do this...) Have three or four different login names, one for each baud rate. Have each run a different script that executes a different AUX: clone - one with the appropriate corresponding baud rate. Yeah, it's grody. But it might work. If you can't clone AUX: for some reason, then an even cheaper and dirtier way would be to save four different preferences files, with the only difference being the baud rate. Have four accounts, as above, and have them execute four different scripts, but instead of those scripts invoking AUX: clones, have them use... oh hells, I can't remember what it's called - there's a programme available which will let you swap preferences files from the command line and which will update the system as well; it may be on an old Fish disk, can't remember - anyway, use this to change your preferences to the appropriate baud rate, then invoke AUX:. That should work, too. (At least, until said programme blows up under WB2.0 :-) ). - R'ykandar. -- | R'ykandar Korra'ti | Editor: LOW ORBIT Science and Fiction | PLink: Skywise | | Elfinkind, Unite! | phoenix@ms.uky.edu | phoenix%ms.uky.edu@ukcc.bitnet | | "Hi! We're evangelical Hari-Krishna pedophiles for LaRouche! Would you like | | to see some of our fine Amway products?" - TRHMS | CIS 72406,370/LOW ORBIT |