ewhac@well.sf.ca.us (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) (08/07/90)
[ "I must warn you, sir, that anything you say will be ignored." ]
I didn't want to say any more about the program until it had
actually hit a shelf somewhere. Well, at long last, it has. Mitch Lopes
informs me that HT Electronics in Sunnyvale, CA, has already sold out of
their six copies. So now that Actual People are starting to get the thing
into their hands, I thought I should inform you of a few sinkholes I know
about.
If you attempt to load DPaint ANIM brush into Ink-&-Paint, it will
crash. We didn't have the specs on ANIM brush format at the time, and
I thought an ANIM brush was a sufficiently screwy thing that it would be a
non-issue. Well, surprise, Dan Silva made ANIM brushes look almost exactly
like ordinary op-5 ANIM files, and it's similar enough that Ink-&-Paint (and
probably Pencil-Test, too) dies. Sorry 'bout dat.
If you select a page size that is larger than the editing screen
(such as 352 * 220 for overscan), you move around the page by holding down
the SHIFT key and hitting the arrow keys. This feature got left out of the
documentation. (Arguably my fault; I didn't put it in the help requester.)
In the copy I received, I noted a curious problem in the manuals.
If you read page 5-11 in the Getting Started manual, and then move to page
5-12, you'll note that it doesn't seem to logically follow. If you do
precisely the same thing in the User's Guide, it will be more obvious.
Evidently, pages 5-12 and 5-13 got swapped between the two manuals. Pages
5-12 and 5-13 in the User's Guide should actually be in the Getting Started
manual, and vice versa. Based on the context of the material, I can see how
this might have been overlooked. I don't know if this happened to all the
copies.
Anyway, for those of you who purchased the program, I hope this
helps. And I hope you like the program, too.
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"Because you never know who might want to sit in your lap."jlh@noether.math.purdue.edu (Jeffrey Hensley) (08/08/90)
In article <19442@well.sf.ca.us>, ewhac@well.sf.ca.us (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) writes: > > In the copy I received, I noted a curious problem in the manuals. > If you read page 5-11 in the Getting Started manual, and then move to page > 5-12, you'll note that it doesn't seem to logically follow. If you do > precisely the same thing in the User's Guide, it will be more obvious. > Evidently, pages 5-12 and 5-13 got swapped between the two manuals. Pages > 5-12 and 5-13 in the User's Guide should actually be in the Getting Started > manual, and vice versa. Based on the context of the material, I can see how > this might have been overlooked. I don't know if this happened to all the > copies. > Thanks! It might have taken me years to figure this one out on my own!! A quick first reading of the manuals doesn't make this evident. It may well be the only flaw in what is an excellent piece of documentation. The documentation and the examples provided are extremely helpful.. > Anyway, for those of you who purchased the program, I hope this > helps. And I hope you like the program, too. > Like it!?!? It is great!! I have only had a couple of hours to work with it so far, and I think I am in love! The Animation Studio had the appearence of a top-notch professional job from top Thanks for helping produce such a nice, artistic package.t a pleasure to find a rash of good software lately. > _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ > Leo L. Schwab -- The Guy in The Cape INET: well!ewhac@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU > \_ -_ Recumbent Bikes: UUCP: pacbell > !{well,unicom}!ewhac > O----^o The Only Way To Fly. hplabs / (pronounced "AE-wack") > "Because you never know who might want to sit in your lap." --Jeff Still trying to think of a signature....
ewhac@well.sf.ca.us (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) (08/09/90)
[ "I don't think the ranger's going to like it, Yogi." ]
I neglected to mention the other sinkhole I know about.
None of the animators reliably work under 2.0. This is due to a
misfeature present in 2.0's copper list handling. Commodore is aware of the
problem.
If 2.1 looks like it's going to be a long way off, and there's
sufficient demand, I'll see what I can do about crufting together a patch
program.
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Leo L. Schwab -- The Guy in The Cape INET: well!ewhac@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU
\_ -_ Recumbent Bikes: UUCP: pacbell > !{well,unicom}!ewhac
O----^o The Only Way To Fly. hplabs / (pronounced "AE-wack")
"Because you never know who might want to sit in your lap."ked01@ccc.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn) (08/09/90)
In article <19463@well.sf.ca.us> ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) writes: > > None of the animators reliably work under 2.0. This is due to a > misfeature present in 2.0's copper list handling. Commodore is aware of the > problem. > > If 2.1 looks like it's going to be a long way off, and there's > sufficient demand, I'll see what I can do about crufting together a patch > program. Since 2.0 isn't "finalized" (read: burned into rom), and since CBM is aware ot the problem, and since animation capability is one of the Amiga's strong points ... why should the fix for this problem have to wait until "2.1"? Or do you know something that the rest of us don't, Leo? BTW ... just what *is* the "misfeature" ...? /kim -- UUCP: kim@uts.amdahl.com -OR- ked01@juts.ccc.amdahl.com or: {sun,decwrl,hplabs,pyramid,uunet,oliveb,ames}!amdahl!kim DDD: 408-746-8462 USPS: Amdahl Corp. M/S 249, 1250 E. Arques Av, Sunnyvale, CA 94086 BIX: kdevaughn GEnie: K.DEVAUGHN CIS: 76535,25
will@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (William Chou) (08/09/90)
In article <19463@well.sf.ca.us> ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) writes: >[ "I don't think the ranger's going to like it, Yogi." ] > > I neglected to mention the other sinkhole I know about. > > None of the animators reliably work under 2.0. This is due to a >misfeature present in 2.0's copper list handling. Commodore is aware of the >problem. > > If 2.1 looks like it's going to be a long way off, and there's >sufficient demand, I'll see what I can do about crufting together a patch >program. > >_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ >Leo L. Schwab -- The Guy in The Cape INET: well!ewhac@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU > \_ -_ Recumbent Bikes: UUCP: pacbell > !{well,unicom}!ewhac >O----^o The Only Way To Fly. hplabs / (pronounced "AE-wack") > "Because you never know who might want to sit in your lap." I wasn't aware that 2.0 was already set in ROM. Commodore should not have a misfeature (read "BUG") like this pass into the final version of 2.0. Disney is a significant corporate entity, and their backing will make the Amiga more widely noticed, but what will happen when users find that the program won't run on Commodore's new operating system? We shouldn't have to wait for 2.1 to get what we expect out of 2.0. A patch is better than none, but only if its absolutely necessary!! ============================================================================ Calling a bug a 'misfeature' is like calling a nut a 'hexagonal rotational surface compression unit'. will@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu ============================================================================
ewhac@well.sf.ca.us (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) (08/12/90)
In article <e1z502xZ01s101@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> ked01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn) writes: >Since 2.0 isn't "finalized" (read: burned into rom), 1.0 wasn't "finalized" either. 1.1 came along and stabilized the system, fixing copious bugs. 2.0, much as we'd like to claim the contrary, has bugs and misfeatures. CBM is aware of many 2.0 problems, so they will undoubtedly address those problems the same way they addressed 1.0 problems: release a new version. >BTW ... just what *is* the "misfeature" ...? > A misfeature is a feature that eventually screws someone. 2.0 attempted to fix a copper list misfeature in 1.3. In the process, they broke *my* copper lists. (And now, chapter 36, volume 73 of, "You Can't Win.") I hesitate to get into details for fear you'll flame CATS, which they don't need right now. Be aware that they're trying their damned best to make the largest number of people happy. _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Leo L. Schwab -- The Guy in The Cape INET: well!ewhac@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU \_ -_ Recumbent Bikes: UUCP: pacbell > !{well,unicom}!ewhac O----^o The Only Way To Fly. hplabs / (pronounced "AE-wack") "Because you never know who might want to sit in your lap."
es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) (08/13/90)
In article <19511@well.sf.ca.us> ewhac@well.UUCP (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) writes: >In article <e1z502xZ01s101@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> ked01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Kim DeVaughn) writes: >>Since 2.0 isn't "finalized" (read: burned into rom), > > 1.0 wasn't "finalized" either. 1.1 came along and stabilized the >system, fixing copious bugs. 2.0, much as we'd like to claim the contrary, >has bugs and misfeatures. CBM is aware of many 2.0 problems, so they will >undoubtedly address those problems the same way they addressed 1.0 problems: >release a new version. As far as I'm conerned, if 2.0 WERE the official release, it would be 10x better than most other major O/S revisions! Take MS Windows 3.0, OS/2 or what everyone is expecting from System 7.0. It is definitely a usable system. Of course, I'd like to see the bugs disappear as much as anyone. I have no complaints (yet 8). >_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ >Leo L. Schwab -- The Guy in The Cape INET: well!ewhac@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU > \_ -_ Recumbent Bikes: UUCP: pacbell > !{well,unicom}!ewhac >O----^o The Only Way To Fly. hplabs / (pronounced "AE-wack") > "Because you never know who might want to sit in your lap." -- Ethan Ethan Solomita: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu "If Commodore had to market sushi they'd call it `raw cold fish'" -- The Bandito, inevitably stolen from someone else
ewhac@well.sf.ca.us (Leo 'Bols Ewhac' Schwab) (08/14/90)
In article <1990Aug12.224327.29882@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes: >"If Commodore had to market sushi they'd call it `raw cold fish'" > -- The Bandito, inevitably stolen from someone else Stolen from Jerry Pournelle of all people (who might have gotten it from someone else). He once commented, "If AT&T had bought Kentucky Fried Chicken, we would probably see ads for 'Hot Dead Chicken.'" Upon hearing this, the marketing director for AT&T is said to have chuckled to himself and said, "You know, we'd probably call it 'Cold Dead Chicken.'" _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_ Leo L. Schwab -- The Guy in The Cape INET: well!ewhac@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU \_ -_ Recumbent Bikes: UUCP: pacbell > !{well,unicom}!ewhac O----^o The Only Way To Fly. hplabs / (pronounced "AE-wack") "Because you never know who might want to sit in your lap."