davidm@sugar.hackercorp.com (David Martin) (10/10/89)
Help! I need information on what the best Amiga Assembler is. I am hoping to find an integrated package with all or most of the following: disassembler, assembler, debugger, LOTS of demo prgs. etc etc. Thanks. -- David W. Martin author of "Tech Corner" INFO magazine. plink: OSS705 CompuServe: 73617,1620 Games are fun, but utilities are more productive!
IMS103@PSUVM.BITNET (10/10/89)
I would recommend DevPac2 by HiSoft. This is one of the fastest assemblers that I have seen. And the debugger is great. The editor, debugger and assembler are all integrated very well and they can also be used as stand alone programs. It comes on 2 disks with a moderate number of example programs and a good manual. One of the nice features is when you have an error, the cursor will automaticly be placed on that error, and Amiga-J will jump to any other errors. All in all DevPAc2 is a good development tool. ------- +--------------------------------------------------------------+ | "Man, is an endangered species" - Terl _Battlefield Earth_ | | IMS103@PSUVM.BITNET (Ian Smith) L Ron Hubbard | +--------------------------------------------------------------+
koshy@abekrd.UUCP (Koshy Abraham) (10/11/89)
>Help! I need information on what the best Amiga Assembler is.
There is a new fully integrated assembler package from Argonaut Software
(that is the creators of Starglider), called 'ArgAsm' . It is claimed to
be the fastest MC68000 assembler on the Amiga (actually faster than the
cross assembler used by many developers on the IBM PC ATs). I can't
remember the address of the company but if you can wait a couple of days
I will see what I can do. If it's of any use, they are based in North
London, U.K.
--
Koshy Abraham NET: koshy@abekrd.co.uk
Abekas Video Systems Ltd. UUCP: ...!mcvax!ukc!{reading,pyrltd}!abekrd!koshy
12 Portman Rd, Reading, PHONE: +44 734 585421 //
Berkshire. RG3 1EA. FAX: +44 734 597267 K\A/b
United Kingdom. TELEX: 847579 \/pete@i-core.UUCP (Pete Ashdown) (10/12/89)
In article <4331@sugar.hackercorp.com>, davidm@sugar.hackercorp.com (D vid Martin) writes: > > Help! I need information on what the best Amiga Assembler is. > I am hoping to find an integrated package with all or most > of the following: disassembler, assembler, debugger, LOTS > of demo prgs. etc etc. Thanks. > -- > David W. Martin author of "Tech Corner" INFO magazine. > plink: OSS705 CompuServe: 73617,1620 Games are fun, but > utilities are more productive! I have literally used them ALL in the search for the best one. The final conclusion is CAPE by Inovatronics. I use the the line-based assembler with TxEd as my editor. It is extremely fast and VERY compatible with Metascope, a problem that assemblers like AssemPro and HiSoft run into. HiSoft is the fastest, but again, its compatibility is not 100%. CAPE also has an AREXX port, where none of the other ones do. As for a debugger, my favorite is good old Metascope 1.8. Very powerful, yet very easy to use. Last, "demo progs" are few and far between. Over 3 years of using assembly on the Amiga, I've managed to almost fill one disk of sample source code from various authors. A lot of it has German commentary and doesn't necessarily follow C-A guidelines. Sample assembly source is few and far between on the Amiga. Abacus publishes a book called "Amiga Assembly Language." Out of five available books on the topic, this one is the best. They also have a disk filled with all the examples in the book. Its very straight-forward and very handy. Amazing Computing also had a great series on the topic. Unfortunately, it was never continued... -- (((((( pete@i-core.uucp uunet!iconsys!caeco!i-core!pete /----\ | o o| Amiga Boing! Ball (Use Your Imagination) ====> |/\/\/\| | ===| <==== Four line J.R. "Bob" Dobbs (Use Your Imagination) |/\/\/\| O/ _/ "People should get beat-up for stating their beliefs"-TMBG \/_/_/
koshy@abekrd.UUCP (Koshy Abraham) (10/13/89)
pete@i-core.UUCP (Pete Ashdown) writes: >In article <4331@sugar.hackercorp.com>, davidm@sugar.hackercorp.com (D >vid Martin) writes: >> >> Help! I need information on what the best Amiga Assembler is. >> I am hoping to find an integrated package with all or most >> of the following: disassembler, assembler, debugger, LOTS >> of demo prgs. etc etc. Thanks. >> -- >> David W. Martin author of "Tech Corner" INFO magazine. >> plink: OSS705 CompuServe: 73617,1620 Games are fun, but >> utilities are more productive! >I have literally used them ALL in the search for the best one. The But Wait!!! - More Info on ArgAsm... In my earlier follow-up I mentioned a new assembler package by the name of ArgAsm. Since then I have received more info on this - from a review in 'Amiga Format' magazine - a British publication. Here's some of the things they said about the package : "...ArgAsm is source code compatible with several of its main competitors. These include HiSoft's Devpac (1 & 2), Inovatronic's CAPE... and Metacomco's ASSEM." "From your very first use, ArgAsm's astounding operational speed will become more than evident." "The combination of copatibility with existing assemblers and an operational speed that even puts PDS systems to shame, deserves to make ArgAsm theamiga industry standard" My comments: The package includes a multi-window editor but there is no monitor/debugger included in the package. In my earlier posting I also promised to find out their address, so here it is : Argonaut Software 7 Millway Millhill London U.K. NOTE: I am in no way connected with Argonaut Software. However, if you do make an order please mention my name - that is to see if they will send me a free copy (no other motives). All the comments given above are taken from the above named magazine, where quoted. All others are my personal veiws/findings. Koshy. -- Koshy Abraham NET: koshy@abekrd.co.uk Abekas Video Systems Ltd. UUCP: ...!mcvax!ukc!{reading,pyrltd}!abekrd!koshy 12 Portman Rd, Reading, PHONE: +44 734 585421 // Berkshire. RG3 1EA. FAX: +44 734 597267 K\A/b United Kingdom. TELEX: 847579 \/
lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (10/18/89)
In <1989Oct11.205833.28122@i-core.UUCP>, pete@i-core.UUCP (Pete Ashdown) writes: >I have literally used them ALL in the search for the best one. The >final conclusion is CAPE by Inovatronics. I use the the line-based >assembler with TxEd as my editor. It is extremely fast and VERY >compatible with Metascope, a problem that assemblers like AssemPro and >HiSoft run into. HiSoft is the fastest, but again, its compatibility >is not 100%. I have both HiSoft and CAPE, and use HiSoft mainly because of speed. I have not found any incompatibility with MetaScope. I am very much looking forward to Jez San's ArgAsm (great name), said to be much faster then even HiSoft's. -larry -- My name is OS/2, Mandius, Kludge of Kludges. Look upon my works, ye CS majors, and gag. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
tschiller@dahlia.waterloo.edu (Thorsten Schiller) (08/15/90)
Greetings...
I am interested in learning assembly on the amiga... however, what I lack is
a fairly good assembler. I would prefer a PD assembler but if anyone could
suggest a decent commercial one that would be appreciated as well.
Another priority is good documentation...
On the same note, if anyone could suggest some good reference books to use in
conjunction with the assembler I would greatly appreciate it...
Many thanks in advance...
Thorsten
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