kwa1_ltd@ur-tut (Karl Wagenfuehr Ltd.) (05/07/88)
Distribution: Can anyone give my *one* reason (note: not *good* reason, just *reason*) to not dispose of Notepad once and for all, and free up that disk space? What good is it? It has to be the worst slopped together kludge I have ever seen. Not only does it not know what it wants to be (simple notepad vs more sophisticated editor), most of its "features" are so bug ridden that it's not worth it to even try to use the damn thing. I know; I just got done trying. Call me stupid, but I figured, what the heck, I'd play with the thing. ...It should have a surgeon general's warning on it. I am so steamed right now! First off, it is impossible to work the "styles" right; it will apply the styles where ever it feels like it. I was trying to make one line be underlined and bold, and one line be italic and bold. It is impossible! I'd make the first line bold and underline, which would make the second line bold and underline, too. OK, so I go to the second line, and try to turn off underline; doesn't work. So I click plain text. That works. Then I choose bold AND THE DAMN THING GIVES ME BOLD *AND* UNDERLINE!! Then it wouldn't print in anything other than draft mode. I've had one experience with it before (about a year ago, so I had forgotten just how brain dead this thing really is), and now I recall it to have been just as infuriating. How can Commodore put this piece of slop on the workbench? It is just plain not useable in its current form. It is not a useful or useable tool. Yet it is in the workbench!! The Amiga is a wonderful machine; but not everyone can jump straight in and appreciate its wonderfulness right away. Most of us have to go through a few steps, like using the workbench. So why is the workbench so awful? (The calculator is a joke; Say is hardly all it's cracked up to be, (and we won't even *talk* about Notepad!) just to name a few. Compared to something like a Mac, the Amiga does very poorly in comparison. The Workbench falls very far behind the mac in many respects, although it's obvious it was designed to be "maclike"; the amiga is a great machine, but amny people are turned away from it because it doesn't show its greatness unless you look hard for it. And that's a shame. So back to my original complaint: either do things like Notepad well, or don't do them at all. The half-ass jobs that currently exist do a great deal of harm to the Amiga's reputation. Karl ['(] kwa1_ltd@tut.cc.rochester.edu Had this been an actual emergency, you would have been instructed to put a bag over your head. We now return you to your regularly scheduled flame.
rmariani@watmum.waterloo.edu (Rico Mariani) (05/08/88)
In article (Karl Wagenfuehr Ltd.) writes: > > >Can anyone give my *one* reason (note: not *good* reason, just *reason*) >to not dispose of Notepad once and for all, and free up that disk space? >What good is it? It has to be the worst slopped together kludge I have >ever seen. Not only does it not know what it wants to be (simple notepad >vs more sophisticated editor), most of its "features" are so bug ridden >that it's not worth it to even try to use the damn thing. I agree 100% I'd rather have the free disk space. But I did find a use for the program. When I was converting Mac fonts to Amiga format, I needed a fast way to look at fonts my converter was making to see if they were getting all the right size/baseline/etc. parameters. So I used... Notepad. The best thing about the whole program is the "...Are you there fonts?" line. But besides that it's a good for nothing waste of disk space and I'm sorry I ever saw it in the first place and I wish someone would do something better instead of putting up with that junk of the workbench disk that everyone gets all of the time anyways. Phew. The Icon Editor and Calculator also blow the billowing big one but at least they're functional. There's a lot to be said for that. Apologies to the author, it's always easy to cut software up after the fact. -Rico
hutch@net1.ucsd.edu (Jim Hutchison) (05/09/88)
kwa1_ltd@tut.cc.rochester.edu.UUCP (Karl Wagenfuehr Ltd.) writes: [...] > Not only does it not know what it wants to be (simple notepad >vs more sophisticated editor), most of its "features" are so bug ridden >that it's not worth it to even try to use the damn thing. [...] >So back to my original complaint: either do things like Notepad well, >or don't do them at all. The half-ass jobs that currently exist do >a great deal of harm to the Amiga's reputation. Oh, man, major bummer. Yeh, I guess *a* document would help. Maybe there was one and the cat ate it, anyway I no longer have it in my posession. I use it all the time to write letters (USMail) to friends (I use ~10pt text), and have only had a few problems understanding it. Doing a double click to grab areas, and then setting the style on them helps. If it doesn't print in anything but draft, you may want to take a look at your preferences. Relax, have a beer, calm down, avoid possibly slanderous language. The kindly people from C-A are hanging out on the net, and doubtlessly more than happy to help a fellow amiga-user in need. #define flame on Manx z, just took a header when I typed the F2 key, ate a term paper, ouch. well atleast it didn't drop my dial-out. #define flame off Jim Hutchison UUCP: {dcdwest,ucbvax}!cs!net1!hutch ARPA: Hutch@net1.ucsd.edu Disclaimer: I represent my own opinions.
josef@augs.ccs.imp.com (Josef Egloff) (08/16/90)
yes i know that silly notepad... :-). i've a simple question. what kind of options have i with notepad? what i means is wich options can i set in the tooltypes lines? i know there are several, but can't find any infos about it. thanks, josef -- < Josef Egloff | USENET: josef@augs.ccs.imp.com > < Pfaffnernweg 19 | PATH: impch!accsys!augs!josef > < CH - 4852 Rothrist | CBMNET: cbmswi!augs1!jegloff > < Switzerland | AUGS: as SYSOP (acc #1) >
lshaw@walt.cc.utexas.edu (logan shaw) (08/19/90)
In article <josef.102002@augs.ccs.imp.com> josef@augs.ccs.imp.com (Josef Egloff) writes: >yes i know that silly notepad... :-). i've a simple question. what kind >of options have i with notepad? what i means is wich options can i set >in the tooltypes lines? i know there are several, but can't find any >infos about it. From my experience with the notepad, your only reasonable option is to delete every copy you have of it and never use it. 8^) 8^) 8^) 8^) >thanks, josef >-- >< Josef Egloff | USENET: josef@augs.ccs.imp.com > >< Pfaffnernweg 19 | PATH: impch!accsys!augs!josef > >< CH - 4852 Rothrist | CBMNET: cbmswi!augs1!jegloff > >< Switzerland | AUGS: as SYSOP (acc #1) > ============================================================================ "The beauty queen, clevely clad, Logan Shaw admires herself in a cigarette ad. lshaw@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Will she admit that all was in vain ======================== when the face in her mirror cracks like a windowpane?" -Elim Hall, _Things_Break_