sasgwb@mozart.unx.sas.com (Gary Black) (08/24/90)
I am in need of an implementation of Smalltalk (preferably Smalltalk-80) for the Amiga. I know a Public Domain version exists on Fred Fish 37, but I'm hoping to find Smalltalk-80. Anyone know of any? E-mail replies to: sasgwb@mozart.unx.sas.com
obrien@aero.aero.org (Michael O'Brien) (08/28/90)
In article <1990Aug24.013033.20516@unx.sas.com>, sasgwb@mozart.unx.sas.com (Gary Black) writes: |> I am in need of an implementation of Smalltalk (preferably Smalltalk-80) for |> the Amiga. I know a Public Domain version exists on Fred Fish 37, but I'm |> hoping to find Smalltalk-80. Anyone know of any? ParcPlace won't do it because the market's too small, and they won't let anyone else do it for them unless the prospect pays $100K for ParcPlace system source. I'd go with the GNU Smalltalk and hope it grows a real user interface soon. The Amiga 3000 is the closest thing I've seen to a great platform for ST80 and I think the current situation is a damn shame. -- Mike O'Brien obrien@aerospace.aero.org
dbuck@ccs.carleton.ca (Dave Buck) (08/28/90)
In article <82258@aerospace.AERO.ORG> obrien@aero.aero.org (Michael O'Brien) writes: > >In article <1990Aug24.013033.20516@unx.sas.com>, >sasgwb@mozart.unx.sas.com (Gary Black) writes: >|> I am in need of an implementation of Smalltalk (preferably >Smalltalk-80) for >|> the Amiga. I know a Public Domain version exists on Fred Fish 37, but I'm >|> hoping to find Smalltalk-80. Anyone know of any? > >ParcPlace won't do it because the market's too small, and they won't let >anyone else do it for them unless the prospect pays $100K for ParcPlace >system source. I'd go with the GNU Smalltalk and hope it grows a real >user interface soon. I don't know if it's much help, but I've sucessfully run ParcPlace Smalltalk under AMax. You need a lot of memory, however and ideally some hard disk support (I'm waiting for AMax II). I've partially ported GNU Smalltalk to the Amiga, but I couldn't get it to read back an image file properly. After that I ran out of time to work on it. David Buck _____________________________________________________________________ | David Buck | My employer is not responsible for| | dbuck@ccs.carleton.ca | my opinions. I'm not even sure | | David_Buck@carleton.ca | I am. | |_______________________________|___________________________________| -- _____________________________________________________________________ | David Buck | My employer is not responsible for| | dbuck@ccs.carleton.ca | my opinions. I'm not even sure | | David_Buck@carleton.ca | I am. |
sdl@linus.mitre.org (Steven D. Litvinchouk) (08/29/90)
In article <82258@aerospace.AERO.ORG> obrien@aero.aero.org (Michael O'Brien) writes: > ParcPlace won't do it [port Smalltalk-80 to the Amiga] because the > market's too small, and they won't let anyone else do it for them > unless the prospect pays $100K for ParcPlace system source. I'd go > with the GNU Smalltalk and hope it grows a real user interface soon. > The Amiga 3000 is the closest thing I've seen to a great platform > for ST80 and I think the current situation is a damn shame. I agree; and the lack of a Common Lisp with CLOS for the Amiga makes the current situation all the worse. Any chance we could convince Digitalk to port Smalltalk/V to the Amiga? Since they already have ports for IBM PC, PS/2, and Mac, the Amiga would seem like a logical next step for them. -- Steven Litvintchouk MITRE Corporation Burlington Road Bedford, MA 01730 (617)271-7753 ARPA: sdl@mbunix.mitre.org UUCP: ...{att,decvax,genrad,ll-xn,philabs,utzoo}!linus!sdl "Where does he get those wonderful toys?" -- J. Napier (a.k.a. "The Joker")
brianr@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM (Brian E Rhodefer) (08/29/90)
In article <SDL.90Aug28131411@lyra.linus.mitre.org> sdl@linus.mitre.org (Steven D. Litvinchouk) writes: > >Any chance we could convince Digitalk to port Smalltalk/V to the >Amiga? Since they already have ports for IBM PC, PS/2, and Mac, the >Amiga would seem like a logical next step for them. > They have a port for the Sun, too. It'd be plenty wonderful to have it for the Amiga. Brian Rhodefer
bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce D. Becker) (08/31/90)
In article <1990Aug24.013033.20516@unx.sas.com> sasgwb@mozart.unx.sas.com (Gary Black) writes: |I am in need of an implementation of Smalltalk (preferably Smalltalk-80) for |the Amiga. I know a Public Domain version exists on Fred Fish 37, but I'm |hoping to find Smalltalk-80. Anyone know of any? Smalltalk-V isn't likely to be ported to the Amiga in the near future, and ParcPlace wants Big Buck$ for the source (they have no interest in an Amiga port). However, Gnu Smalltalk can be had for free, but would need to be ported both in terms of writing the virtual machine for AmigaDOS, and also to add some graphics operators to the opcodes... -- ,u, Bruce Becker Toronto, Ontario a /i/ Internet: bdb@becker.UUCP, bruce@gpu.utcs.toronto.edu `\o\-e UUCP: ...!uunet!mnetor!becker!bdb _< /_ "I still have my phil-os-o-phy" - Meredith Monk
scotte@applix.com (Scott Evernden) (09/04/90)
In article <34261@becker.UUCP> bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce D. Becker) writes: >In article <1990Aug24.013033.20516@unx.sas.com> sasgwb@mozart.unx.sas.com (Gary Black) writes: >|I am in need of an implementation of Smalltalk (preferably Smalltalk-80) for >|the Amiga. > > Smalltalk-V isn't likely to be ported to the > Amiga in the near future, ... Well, last I heard, an Amiga port of Smalltalk/V was right behind them doing a NeXT version. Everyone should do like I do and hound Digitalk to do Smalltalk/V Amiga. They're digitalk on BIX, and about once every 4-6 months I plead for an Amiga port. I've written letters, and I've even offered to do the job for them. If all Amigans were to do the same... -scott