greendog@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Michael D Fischer) (08/01/90)
Does anyone know of a GOOD Commodore 64 emulator? The only emulator I know of is Go-64 which I've heard is pretty bad. I head that there was a public domain one but I don't know anything about one. Any help would be appreciated... Mike
mcguire@cs.utexas.edu (Tommy Marcus McGuire) (08/02/90)
In article <1990Aug1.155101.24997@max.physics.sunysb.edu> greendog@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Michael D Fischer) writes: >Does anyone know of a GOOD Commodore 64 emulator? The only emulator >I know of is Go-64 which I've heard is pretty bad. I head that there >was a public domain one but I don't know anything about one. Any >help would be appreciated... > >Mike I, too, would be interested in finding out about a good emulator. (He says, eyeing the hideous pile of c-64 software inching its way across the desk.) I have tried Go-64, but it has this strange way of barfing up a Guru about halfway through booting. I complained when I sent in the warranty card, and I'm still awaiting an answer. Tommy
cmcmanis@stpeter.Eng.Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (08/03/90)
In article <1990Aug1.155101.24997@max.physics.sunysb.edu> (Michael D Fischer) writes: >Does anyone know of a GOOD Commodore 64 emulator? The only emulator >I know of is Go-64 which I've heard is pretty bad. I head that there >was a public domain one but I don't know anything about one. Any >help would be appreciated... I saw an excellent one at a recent garage sale. It was a both hardware and software emulator apparently. It came with a keyboard that had all the right key legends on them, a set of C64 ROMs (which were installed in the keyboard) and it had ports to connect to C64 peripherals. The guy selling it seemed to believe it would run all C64 software and wanted $25 for it. The really amazing thing about it was you didn't even have to power up your Amiga to use it! -- --Chuck McManis Sun Microsystems uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: <none> Internet: cmcmanis@Eng.Sun.COM These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you. "I tell you this parrot is bleeding deceased!"
JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) (08/04/90)
In article <1990Aug1.155101.24997@max.physics.sunysb.edu>, greendog@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Michael D Fischer) says: > >Does anyone know of a GOOD Commodore 64 emulator? The only emulator >I know of is Go-64 which I've heard is pretty bad. The best one to date, to my understanding, is ReadySoft's 64 Emulator II. It is best used for file conversion, as it will let you connect 64 and 128 disk drives to the Amiga, and it will also read 1581 disks in the Amiga. On a bright future note, I have heard there is a company designing a 64 bridgeboard of sorts. They're "Dr Evil Labs" of the SIDSymphony cartridge fame. I e-mailed them yesterday and am awaiting reply. Before you cry "vaporware" I'd like to add the results of my personal research into a 64 bridgecard. Two different hardware engineers I spoke to said the physical card to plug in would be VERY easy to design (as compared to the 2088 or 2286 bridgeboards.) The only hard part about mass-producing the boards would be getting bulk quantities of the 64 proprietary chips. The hard part of the whole package would be the software interface to the Amiga. That could be solved by getting a half-dozen of you screen hackers out there together for a couple of weeks, right? ;-) Kurt -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- || Kurt Tappe (215) 363-9485 || Amigas, Macs, IBM's, C-64's, NeXTs, || || 184 W. Valley Hill Rd. || Apple ]['s.... I use 'em all. || || Malvern, PA 19355-2214 || (and in that order too! ;-) || || jkt100@psuvm.psu.edu --------------------------------------|| || jkt100@psuvm.bitnet jkt100%psuvm.bitnet@psuvax1 QLink: KurtTappe || -----------------------------------------------------------------------
ifarqhar@mqccsunc.mqcc.mq.oz.au (Ian Farquhar) (08/04/90)
In article <90215.223107JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu> JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) writes: >Before you cry "vaporware" I'd like to add the results of my personal >research into a 64 bridgecard. Two different hardware engineers I >spoke to said the physical card to plug in would be VERY easy to >design (as compared to the 2088 or 2286 bridgeboards.) The only hard >part about mass-producing the boards would be getting bulk quantities >of the 64 proprietary chips. The hard part of the whole package >would be the software interface to the Amiga. That could be solved >by getting a half-dozen of you screen hackers out there together >for a couple of weeks, right? ;-) Actually, I seriously looked into a C64 emulator when I first got my Amiga. After a couple of weeks of mucking around with 68K code and some really heavy FSM's, I decided that you could either software emulate the C64 custom chips, or the 6510 in pretty close to real-time, but not both. Logicially, you would emulate the custom chips as 65XX chips are very cheap. But your article bring up another even more interesting point. Wouldn't it be nice to simultaneously run C64 and Amiga software. I would not even care if the C64 was on itsd own screen, though putting it in a window under v2.0 (ie. 16 color WB) would be even nicer. If I were to go this way in designing a C64 bridgeboard, I would have to simulate the VIC-II chip, buy the 6526's thrid-party (no problem), and obtain the 6581 SID chip from CBM. Surely that would not be too difficult. -- Ian Farquhar Phone : 61 2 805-7420 Office of Computing Services Fax : 61 2 805-7433 Macquarie University NSW 2109 Also : 61 2 805-7205 Australia EMail : ifarqhar@macuni.mqcc.mq.oz.au
donb@bushido.uucp (Donald Burnett) (09/06/90)
In article <90215.223107JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu> JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) writes: >In article <1990Aug1.155101.24997@max.physics.sunysb.edu>, >greendog@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Michael D Fischer) says: >> >>Does anyone know of a GOOD Commodore 64 emulator? The only emulator >>I know of is Go-64 which I've heard is pretty bad. > >The best one to date, to my understanding, is ReadySoft's >64 Emulator II. It is best used for file conversion, as it will >let you connect 64 and 128 disk drives to the Amiga, and it will >also read 1581 disks in the Amiga. > >On a bright future note, I have heard there is a company designing >a 64 bridgeboard of sorts. They're "Dr Evil Labs" of the SIDSymphony >cartridge fame. I e-mailed them yesterday and am awaiting reply. > >Before you cry "vaporware" I'd like to add the results of my personal >research into a 64 bridgecard. Two different hardware engineers I >spoke to said the physical card to plug in would be VERY easy to >design (as compared to the 2088 or 2286 bridgeboards.) The only hard >part about mass-producing the boards would be getting bulk quantities >of the 64 proprietary chips. The hard part of the whole package >would be the software interface to the Amiga. That could be solved >by getting a half-dozen of you screen hackers out there together >for a couple of weeks, right? ;-) > > Kurt >-- > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- >|| Kurt Tappe (215) 363-9485 || Amigas, Macs, IBM's, C-64's, NeXTs, || >|| 184 W. Valley Hill Rd. || Apple ]['s.... I use 'em all. || >|| Malvern, PA 19355-2214 || (and in that order too! ;-) || >|| jkt100@psuvm.psu.edu --------------------------------------|| >|| jkt100@psuvm.bitnet jkt100%psuvm.bitnet@psuvax1 QLink: KurtTappe || > ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Note: I see limited usefulness for something like this at best and a 64 isn't that expensive today, that you couldn't afford to still have both. However Jamemco (in back of Byte and Computer Shopper) sells publicly many of the 64 chips, however you would have to somehow license the rom from Commodore.. -- **************************************************************** ********* donb@bushido.uucp ****** ********* "My Opinions are my own, not anyone else's ****** ********* Organizational Affiliations ****** ********* CreativEdge Systems, the Multimedia Solution ****** ********* The Computer Shoppe, Ypsilanti-Ann Arbor, MI's ****** ********* Commodore-Amiga Education Dealer ******