wizard@sosaria.imp.com (Chris Brand) (08/27/90)
Sculpt Animate 4D doesn't work with 2.0. For example, try to enter some coordinates manually - it just doesn't work. No guru, but very, very strange behaviour, the numbers you enter just don't appear and don't have any effect, either. These are grave news, indeed. Byte by Byte quit working on the Amiga, at least until they finished their Mac version of SA. So an update is very unlikely to come. What about these raytracers one hears about? Journeyman and so on? Are they available? How good are they compared to SA? -- ------------------------------------ Chris Brand - wizard@sosaria.imp.com "Justice is the possession and doing of what one is entitled to" - Platon ------------------------------------
stan@phx.mcd.mot.com (Stan Fisher) (08/29/90)
> Sculpt Animate 4D doesn't work with 2.0. For example, try to enter some >coordinates manually - it just doesn't work. No guru, but very, very >strange behaviour, the numbers you enter just don't appear and don't have >any effect, either. > Does it work on the 3000 under 1.3? Anyone know? Stan Fisher - stan@teroach.phx.mcd.mot.com - asuvax!mcdphx!teroach!stan Motorola Microcomputer Division, Tempe, Arizona - Voice (602) 438-3228 Call our User Group BBS "M.E.C.C.A." running SkyLine 1.31 @ (602) 893-0804
lclausen@lckaos.UUCP (Lars R. Clausen) (08/29/90)
>In article <04072.AA04072@sosaria.imp.com> wizard@sosaria.imp.com (Chris Brand) writes: > > Sculpt Animate 4D doesn't work with 2.0. For example, try to enter some >coordinates manually - it just doesn't work. No guru, but very, very >strange behaviour, the numbers you enter just don't appear and don't have >any effect, either. What? Can you get it to start up at all??? When I try (A2000,A2620,WB20b6), the screen is opened, then the system dies greufully (stars and stribes all over the screen!) What version are you using? > What about these raytracers one hears about? Journeyman and so on? Are >they available? How good are they compared to SA? What I hear of them is "faster, more options but no so good user interface". I'll have to look firsthand to say anything, though. Both TurboSilver and Caligari are said to have options never seen in SA, like (drool) texture-mapping and wrap-on of iff-files. >Chris Brand - wizard@sosaria.imp.com -- +-----------------------------------------------------+---------------+ | Lars R. Clausen (Fido: 2:230/22.34) | Gnoshallasim- | | ..{pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmehq!lckaos!lclausen | bosh: The one | | 8215693 Gnoshallasimbosh Gnome Mage 99 Ripe Old Age |<-that won in | | Claimer: Representing Sirius Cybernetics Coperation | Moria! | +-----------------------------------------------------+---------------+
iwscoop@bigsur.uucp (Serge Ah-Hee) (08/30/90)
>Path: bigsur!bnrgate!cunews!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!mcsun!cernvax!chx400!fatcat!acadch!impch!sosaria!wizard >From: wizard@sosaria.imp.com (Chris Brand) >Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga >Subject: sa4d doesn't work under 2.0 >Message-ID: <04072.AA04072@sosaria.imp.com> >Date: 27 Aug 90 09:20:57 GMT >Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga >Lines: 20 > ... > These are grave news, indeed. Byte by Byte quit working on the Amiga, at >least until they finished their Mac version of SA. So an update is very >unlikely to come. > What about these raytracers one hears about? Journeyman and so on? Are >they available? How good are they compared to SA? Losing SA 4d is not that of a great loss ( in my opinion that is). The object editor was really good, by the images rendered weren't that hot! I also use Turbo Silver. It has produces really good images, but its editor is pityful. I use SA 4d to edit, interchange to port the objects to TSilverto render the objects. I'm waiting for the Imagine upgrade... from what I heard, it has a good editor. For the other raytracers, I'll haveto see them before I can comment them.
evtracy@sdrc.UUCP (Tracy Schuhwerk) (08/31/90)
From article <13519@mcdphx.phx.mcd.mot.com>, by teroach!stan@phx.mcd.mot.com (Stan Fisher): [ Information on SA4D not working under 2.0 removed ] > > Does it work on the 3000 under 1.3? Anyone know? > Yes, SA4D does work under 1.3 on the A3000. I have a 6Meg A3000 (2 CHIP, 4 FAST) and have been running SA4D under 1.3 for about 3 months now with no problems. Under 2.0 the main problem I saw was that I could only work with VERY small models and render low resolution modes to the screen. I render most of my stuff to 24 bit files and then convert them to Dynamic Hi-Res and this has been working great (using 1.3). -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= _______________ / / / | uunet!sdrc!evtracy / (___ _ /_ /_ _ __ /_/ | evtracy@SDRC.UU.NET / . _____)__(__/ /__/_/_/ /__/_/_/__(/__/ (__/ \ +--------------------- Structural Dynamics Research Corporation (SDRC) - Milford, Ohio =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
menzies@CAM.ORG (Stephen Menzies) (09/05/90)
wizard@sosaria.imp.com (Chris Brand) writes: > Sculpt Animate 4D doesn't work with 2.0. For example, try to enter some >coordinates manually - it just doesn't work. No guru, but very, very >strange behaviour, the numbers you enter just don't appear and don't have >any effect, either. > > These are grave news, indeed. Byte by Byte quit working on the Amiga, at >least until they finished their Mac version of SA. So an update is very >unlikely to come. > What about these raytracers one hears about? Journeyman and so on? Are >they available? How good are they compared to SA? > Journeyman is available right now, directly from Hash Enterprises. I don't know a lot about it other than seeing a screenshot of the editor. Pretty, but perhaps too many gadgets displayed for the small screen of the Amiga. From the screen shot their was only enough space left over for 2 views at a time 'cause the top of the screen is taken up by a bank of 3d gadgets. Objects are apparently made with special splines with real-time dragging of points. Imagine (formerly TurboSilver) is from Impulse Inc, and is still in the works and should be released soon, though I wouldn't want to speculate when. From what I have heard and the screen shots I have seen, there won't be any comparision to SA. The editor is a full quadview (tri-view with a perspective view) and each view can be expanded full screen. Very clean. This is the best way and makes full use of the small screens we have. Objects can be built from cross sections of the different isometric views of an object. Among other things, you can rotate, scale, and move objects in real-time, manipulate all points, edges and faces and build with boolean math functions; morphic changes, animation of all object attributes, iff wrapping, iff bitplane extrusion, hiddenline removal, and a unique animation editor that allows you to create cycles and work with true key cell functions. Rendering is 12bit and 24bit in solid model (2 kinds) and full raytrace. TurboSilver was always the best renderer but some considered it weak as a modeller although in my opinion it was closer to the modeller used on the big systems (Wavefront, SoftImage etc) with it's full use of the objects axis. We have become too use to looking for functions called *mirroring* and *duplication of points* without understanding what they mean mathamatically. My only problem with TS was selecting points and this has been looked after in Imagine. Hope this helps you. Stephen >-- >------------------------------------ >Chris Brand - wizard@sosaria.imp.com >"Justice is the possession and doing >of what one is entitled to" - Platon >------------------------------------ -- Stephen Menzies email: menzies@CAM.ORG
joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph P. Hillenburg) (09/05/90)
Actually, Turbo Silver is still out, but Imagine is far better. Has
andone seen Impulse's new 24 bit board called "FireCracker 24"?
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Those aren't bugs! Just undesirable features!
irable features!menzies@CAM.ORG (Stephen Menzies) (09/07/90)
joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph P. Hillenburg) writes: >Actually, Turbo Silver is still out, but Imagine is far better. Has >andone seen Impulse's new 24 bit board called "FireCracker 24"? Not in the flesh, but there's a picture of it and a little info on it in the September issue of Amazing Computing p.31 > -Joseph Hillenburg (Sultan of Asm) >INET: joseph@valnet.uucp |MAIL: 1709 West Gray >UUCP: ...!iuvax!valnet!joseph |MAIL: Bloomington, IN 47401 >AT&T: 1-812-336-2969 |MAIL: United States >CompSci BBS: 3/12/24 1-812-876-4407 9:30 pm-7:30 am |Mail replies requested > Those aren't bugs! Just undesirable features! >irable features! -- Stephen Menzies email: menzies@CAM.ORG
jeffo@uiuc.edu (Jeffrey B Nicholson) (09/09/90)
iwscoop@bigsur.uucp (Serge Ah-Hee) writes: >>Path: bigsur!bnrgate!cunews!utgpu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!clyde.concordia.ca!uunet!mcsun!cernvax!chx400!fatcat!acadch!impch!sosaria!wizard >>From: wizard@sosaria.imp.com (Chris Brand) >>Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga >>Subject: sa4d doesn't work under 2.0 >>Message-ID: <04072.AA04072@sosaria.imp.com> >>Date: 27 Aug 90 09:20:57 GMT >>Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga >>Lines: 20 >Losing SA 4d is not that of a great loss ( in my opinion that is). The object editor >was really good... I tend to disagree here, in that I think with my suggested improvements to the Caligari editor, that it would be the easiest to use and the nicest object editor yet available. I have yet to see Journeyman or any of the "newest" rendering packages, but I *really* like that 3D editor of Caligari's, and the fact that you can easily switch views and see things (the whole time) pretty much like they will end up in the finished product. With SA4D and Turbo you have to think more (tri-view) as to how the object will look. Jeff jeffo@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu