drtiller@uokmax.uucp (Donald Richard Tillery Jr) (09/07/90)
A friend of mine who works at a local Amiga store posted a message on our local BBS that no one has the answer to. I was wondering if any of you Amiga Gurus out there could help him with this one: Message #1892 "Public" Date: 05-Sep-90 21:00 From: Sean Riddle A customer came into Amazing today looking for a program that will allow him to enter mathematical formulas with complex symbols to export to a desktop publisher. Rather than just a symbol font for one of the DTPs, he would like an Intuitioned program that will automatically enlarge symbols such as integrals, parentheses, radicals to cover exactly the correct part of the equation. He has used TeX and PROFF, but would rather not have to use a script language, and he needs it to be WYSIWYG. I thought I had heard of such a program available on the Amiga, but I couldn't find it in the Amazing Product Guide, and our Commodore Rep didn't know of one. He is interested in buying an Amiga, but he is writing his dissertation, and if this kind of program is not available, he'll probably buy a Mac. If you have any info, please let me know.... Sean Anyone know of any programs? It looks like it might mean an Amiga sale to a future PHD. Gee, we need all the brain power we can get. Email me any info at the above address and I'll get the info to him ASAP. Thanx. _______ __________ _/____) ' __ /_/ / ' / / __ _ "N.I.N.J.A.J.I.S."-Me / \___/__/___/ |_ /__/__/__/_/_-_/__/_/ The Displaced Razorback. ___________________________________________/ Go Hogs Go -- S.?.C. The Amiga Computer - "...a more fiendish disputant than the Great Hyperbolic Omni-Cognate Neutron Wrangler of Ciceronicus Twelve..." -D.Adams; Well, almost.
stern@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Eric G. Stern) (09/07/90)
In article <1990Sep6.220202.24679@uokmax.uucp>, drtiller@uokmax.uucp (Donald Richard Tillery Jr) writes: > A customer came into Amazing today looking for a program that will allow him > to enter mathematical formulas with complex symbols to export to a desktop > publisher... > He has used TeX and PROFF, but would rather not have to use a > script language, and he needs it to be WYSIWYG... > He is interested in > buying an Amiga, but he is writing his dissertation, and if this kind of > program is not available, he'll probably buy a Mac. If you have any info, > please let me know.... Sean > Anyone know of any programs? It looks like it might mean an Amiga sale to > a future PHD. *Real* Ph.D.'s write their dissertations with TeX. And what a miserable experience it was on a VAX. Life would have been so much better with AmigaTeX. I do all my TeX work at home on my Amiga now rather than use the system at the office with a twenty minute delay to get output. Eric Stern stern@unix.cis.pitt.edu
v117gv8r@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Thom Burnett) (09/07/90)
In article <35721@unix.cis.pitt.edu>, stern@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Eric G. Stern) writes... >*Real* Ph.D.'s write their dissertations with TeX. And what a miserable >experience it was on a VAX. Life would have been so much better >with AmigaTeX. I do all my TeX work at home on my Amiga now rather >than use the system at the office with a twenty minute delay to get >output. > > Eric Stern > stern@unix.cis.pitt.edu I am one of those Ph.D.s using TeX on the VAX and still learning it. I had not heard of AmigaTeX. Does it feature WYSIWYG? How much does it cost (approx)? Thom
trantow@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Jerry J Trantow) (09/07/90)
In article <35721@unix.cis.pitt.edu> stern@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Eric G. Stern) writes: >In article <1990Sep6.220202.24679@uokmax.uucp>, drtiller@uokmax.uucp (Donald Richard Tillery Jr) writes: > >> A customer came into Amazing today looking for a program that will allow him >> to enter mathematical formulas with complex symbols to export to a desktop >> publisher... >> He has used TeX and PROFF, but would rather not have to use a >*Real* Ph.D.'s write their dissertations with TeX. And what a miserable > Eric Stern > stern@unix.cis.pitt.edu For those of you who haven't had the opportunity to play with a Mathematics program such as MacSyma, Mathematica, or Maple rest assured that computer mathematics is moving forward. RAPIDLY!! MacSyma is old and it shows on the versions that I have seen. Mathematica is a huge step forward, well hyped, and well supported. The drawbacks are that it is a memory hog and not available on the Amiga. Maple seems to be the answer on the Amiga. I sent in for one of their demo disks (Mac disk) and I was quite impressed. Oh yes, back to the original subject. These math programs all recognize the importance of TeX and will spit out the formulas and graphics in TeX or LaTeX format. I take a class a semester at my job site and email homework to professors at the university. _____________________________________________________________________________ Jerry J. Trantow | When you call a thing mysterious, 1560 A. East Irving Place | all it means is that you don't understand it. Milwaukee, Wi 53202-1460 | Lord Kelvin (414) 289-0503 | _____________________________________________________________________________
UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) (09/08/90)
In article <35123@eerie.acsu.Buffalo.EDU>, v117gv8r@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Thom Burnett) says: > I am one of those Ph.D.s using TeX on the VAX and still learning it. >I had not heard of AmigaTeX. Does it feature WYSIWYG? How much does it cost >(approx)? AmigaTeX is sort of wysiwyg. It has a very good on screen previewer of the TeX output. Using multitasking, you can set up an editor to send output to TeX which sends its output, the DVI information, directly to the previewer. So, when you are trying to develop something particularly tricky, you type it into the editor window, and the use the editor to send just that small part to TeX and on to the previewer. If it works, fine. if not, you can just edit it and send it again and again and again and again (this is TeX, after all 8-). Amiga TeX costs about $200 something plus more for a printer driver. Also, the TeX n NeXT comes from the same guy. I assume NeXT TeX is very similar to AmigaTeX, though I've not actually seen it. lee
wfh58@leah.Albany.Edu (William F. Hammond) (09/09/90)
In article <35721@unix.cis.pitt.edu> stern@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Eric G. Stern) writes: >In article <1990Sep6.220202.24679@uokmax.uucp>, drtiller@uokmax.uucp (Donald Richard Tillery Jr) writes: > >> A customer came into Amazing today looking for a program that will allow him >> to enter mathematical formulas with complex symbols to export to a desktop >> publisher... >> He has used TeX and PROFF, but would rather not have to use a >> script language, and he needs it to be WYSIWYG... >> He is interested in >> buying an Amiga, but he is writing his dissertation, and if this kind of >> program is not available, he'll probably buy a Mac. If you have any info, >> please let me know.... Sean > >> Anyone know of any programs? It looks like it might mean an Amiga sale to >> a future PHD. > >*Real* Ph.D.'s write their dissertations with TeX. And what a miserable >experience it was on a VAX. Life would have been so much better >with AmigaTeX. I do all my TeX work at home on my Amiga now rather >than use the system at the office with a twenty minute delay to get >output. > > Eric Stern > stern@unix.cis.pitt.edu If you want "typesetting" of mathematical text, then I would suggest AmigaTeX. However, it should be noted that the Amiga (1) provides a user-definable screen font, worth about 100 non- standard symbols (2) provides a user-definable keymap (3) provides algorithmic styling of screen fonts, for bold, italic and underline, which can be used to quadruple the number of "letters". So mathematical text can be handled quite easily. The "Etale" package on Fish Disk 254 provides a symbol set that is made to match a good bit of what is found on the "math fonts" cartridge for the HP Laser Jet. The File Reader there gives an almost perfect preview of the printed page, and it can be easily opened from a programmable editor on the current page of text. Examples of suitable programmable editors include "dme" by Matt Dillon, which may be found on Fish Disk 284 (I think a later version was included with "dice" on Fish Disk 359), and "TxEdPlus", an inexpensive commercial editor by Microsmiths, Inc. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- William F. Hammond Dept. of Mathematics & Statistics 518-442-4625 SUNYA, Albany, NY 12222 hammond@leah.albany.edu wfh58@albnyvms.bitnet ----------------------------------------------------------------------
murphy@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu (William J. Murphy) (09/09/90)
In article <90251.000953UH2@psuvm.psu.edu> UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) writes: >Amiga TeX costs about $200 something plus more for a printer driver. >Also, the TeX n NeXT comes from the same guy. I assume NeXT TeX is >very similar to AmigaTeX, though I've not actually seen it. > > lee NeXT's TeX is a joy to work with. I thought that AmigaTeX was great until I discovered the joys of PostScript. Using NeXT TeX you can import any Encapsulated PostScript file and TeX will figure out the placement and spacing for the figure(s). Yes Amiga TeX can do that also, but AmigaTeX doesn't have Display PostScript. (i.e. there will be another step to preview the figures with something such as Post.) To be fair, I will give them both credit as excellant programs, Tom ported them they ought to be. Bill Murphy | Turtle Schmurtle, I'm the murphy@gibbs.physics.purdue.edu | Rabbit. Amiga, it's not a religion, it's a lifestyle | B. Bunny
ben@contact.uucp (Ben Eng) (09/09/90)
In <4082@newton.physics.purdue.edu> murphy@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu (William J. Murphy) writes: >NeXT's TeX is a joy to work with. I thought that AmigaTeX was great until >I discovered the joys of PostScript. Using NeXT TeX you can import any >Encapsulated PostScript file and TeX will figure out the placement and >spacing for the figure(s). Yes Amiga TeX can do that also, but AmigaTeX >doesn't have Display PostScript. (i.e. there will be another step to >preview the figures with something such as Post.) It appears as though Tom has some serious intentions of integrating post.library with AmigaTeX. So you will soon (probably quite a ways down the road, actually) be able to preview TeX with embedded EPSF files all in one shot. Wouldn't it be great if post.library slowly got integrated into the standard Amiga OS... >To be fair, I will give >them both credit as excellant programs, Tom ported them they ought to be. For sure! I can't imagine anyone owning an Amiga without having AmigaTeX also. What a scary concept. Ben -- Ben Eng | ben@contact.uucp (416)-438-2855 150 Beverley St. Apt #1L | Bix: jetpen Toronto, Ontario M5T 1Y6 | UofT Engineering Science: engb@ecf.toronto.edu _-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_| Home: (416)-979-7885, (416)-979-8761
drxmann@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Dustin Christmann) (09/10/90)
In article <1990Sep9.161754.1813@contact.uucp> ben@contact.uucp (Ben Eng) writes: > >For sure! I can't imagine anyone owning an Amiga without having >AmigaTeX also. What a scary concept. > I truly am enticed. I'd like to know where I could get my hands on AmigaTeX. I assume from previous postings that it is a commercial product. Please Email any and all responses. If there are enough requests for this info, I'll sum- marize and post it. >Ben >-- >Ben Eng | ben@contact.uucp (416)-438-2855 >150 Beverley St. Apt #1L | Bix: jetpen >Toronto, Ontario M5T 1Y6 | UofT Engineering Science: engb@ecf.toronto.edu >_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_-_| Home: (416)-979-7885, (416)-979-8761 Thanx, Dustin Christmann Internet: drxmann@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Bitnet: drxmann@utxvm UUCP: ...!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu!drxmann "He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot, but don't let that fool you. He is an idiot." -Groucho Marx
stern@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Eric G. Stern) (09/10/90)
In article <4082@newton.physics.purdue.edu>, murphy@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu (William J. Murphy) writes: > NeXT's TeX is a joy to work with. I thought that AmigaTeX was great until > I discovered the joys of PostScript. Using NeXT TeX you can import any > Encapsulated PostScript file and TeX will figure out the placement and > spacing for the figure(s). Yes Amiga TeX can do that also, but AmigaTeX > doesn't have Display PostScript. (i.e. there will be another step to > preview the figures with something such as Post.) To be fair, I will give > them both credit as excellant programs, Tom ported them they ought to be. > Bill Murphy | Turtle Schmurtle, I'm the > murphy@gibbs.physics.purdue.edu | Rabbit. I just received my newsletter from Radical Eye where this was mentioned. Tom is in the process of putting more PostScript stuff in AmigaTeX and integrating the previewer wit post. The net result is that you will be able to view PostScript figures with TeX output. I hope I haven't misrepresented what I read. Eric Stern stern@unix.cis.pitt.edu