cpmurphy@vax1.tcd.ie (09/12/90)
In article <1990Sep9.173108.16455@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG>, xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: > davidm@sugar.hackercorp.com (David Martin) writes: >>ALL: >> A friend tells me that ADA is being released for the >>Commodore Amiga by Oxxi. Has anyone heard the details >>about it yet? Or about their new program editor? M2 >>compiler also? > > I bought my Modula-2 compiler through OXXI - stay away from them. > > Ada for the Amiga sounds like a dream come true, but it OXXI is > involved, nightmare is more likely to be the result. Ada for the Amiga sounds like a nightmare come true. It's a big ugly language. The compiler we used here eats up disk-space and is s.l.o.w. With a language like that it's not surprising. I can't see how it will be much better on an Amiga. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Christian Murphy, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland cpmurphy@vax1.tcd.ie cpmurphy%vax1.tcd.ie@cunyvm.cuny.edu
schweige@cs.nps.navy.mil (Jeffrey M. Schweiger) (09/12/90)
In article <6848.26ed24a4@vax1.tcd.ie> cpmurphy@vax1.tcd.ie writes: >In article <1990Sep9.173108.16455@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG>, xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: [some discussion deleted] >> Ada for the Amiga sounds like a dream come true, but it OXXI is >> involved, nightmare is more likely to be the result. > > Ada for the Amiga sounds like a nightmare come true. It's a big ugly language. >The compiler we used here eats up disk-space and is s.l.o.w. With a language >like that it's not surprising. I can't see how it will be much better on an >Amiga. >-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >Christian Murphy, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland cpmurphy@vax1.tcd.ie Actually, IMHO, Ada is a big, very nicely blocked structured language, whose performance can be a function of what compiler is being used. Let's avoid the language religious wars if we can. Whether or not one or more individuals do not have a use for a particular language does not detract from the possibility that other individuals _do_ have a need for that language. I believe that there is a market for Ada on the Amiga. One recent estimate placed the the US Ada hardware and software market in the $1 billion (yes, billion with a 'b') range in sales for 1989 (reference Government Computer News, August 20, 1990). Apparently, Ada was also becoming a major factor in banking and finance systems in Europe, also. It might be nice if the Amiga could get involved in even a small portion of this market. Jeff Schweiger -- ******************************************************************************* Jeff Schweiger Standard Disclaimer CompuServe: 74236,1645 Internet (Milnet): schweige@cs.nps.navy.mil *******************************************************************************
xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) (09/12/90)
cpmurphy@vax1.tcd.ie writes: >xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: >> davidm@sugar.hackercorp.com (David Martin) writes: >>>ALL: >>> A friend tells me that ADA is being released for the >>>Commodore Amiga by Oxxi. Has anyone heard the details >>>about it yet? Or about their new program editor? M2 >>>compiler also? >> I bought my Modula-2 compiler through OXXI - stay away from them. >> Ada for the Amiga sounds like a dream come true, but it OXXI is >> involved, nightmare is more likely to be the result. >Ada for the Amiga sounds like a nightmare come true. It's a big >ugly language. The compiler we used here eats up disk-space and is >s.l.o.w. With a language like that it's not surprising. I can't >see how it will be much better on an Amiga. Well, Ada is a big, ugly, robust, highly maintainable, highly portable language, whose writers earn good pay and have good job security, at least in theory. So if you _had_ to develop code in it, say as a contractor working mostly on your own equipment for an organization where Ada was a requirement, wouldn't the Amiga be high on your list of platforms for the work? Especially since you could start the long slow compile in the background while doing something important in the foreground, like filling in the next module stub with real code, or playing NetHack? To the person in _that_ situation, the Amiga would become a true productivity tool for Ada. Heck, you could even write the docs for AmgiaTeX processing while you compiled the code, and preview your dvi output. Compared to some of the other environments available _for_ _developing_ _Ada_ _code_, I think "dream come true" is still a fair call. I'm not especially claiming that Ada would be the Amiga programming language of choice, that's another religious war entirely. (I was vastly amused to see in the C++ standards group recently: "C (which some people claim incorrectly to be a programming language)...", however. ;-) Kent, the man from xanth. <xanthian@Zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <xanthian@well.sf.ca.us>