[comp.sys.amiga] A3000 on Education Discount

detert@lognet2.af.mil (CMS David K. Detert) (09/12/90)

Oh folks, here's your chance to give me your views on purchasing an A3000
using Commodore's Educational Discount Program.  I currently have an A1000
with 1.5 meg and 2 floppy drives.  I am interested in such applications
as Deluxe Paint III, Deluxe Video II, telecommunications and exploring the
new AmigaVision.  I know it's a super machine, so what I need to know
is the answer to a couple of questions.
First, are the current units shipping WITH AmigaVision or will I get some
kind of certificate?
Second, will the ROM chip for 2.0 be provided free of charge at some later
date and how will the current version of the 3000 differ from those once
the ROM becomes available?  I understand there is now some RAM used to 
hold 2.0 and this is what the ROM will replace, correct?
Third, how much of the new ECS does the 3000 have?  I've moved recently
and just got back my UseNEt feed so I missed several hundred messages
in the past few months.
Last, what is the current status of the sales tax question?  The form only
talks to certain states, does anyone know if Colorado still has to collect
taxes even though they are not one of those listed?
I lied, just one more, is there any reason for anyone who likes the Amiga
not to buy an A3000 at this point?  I keep seeing references to over-priced, etc.,
but compared to the original retail price of the A1000, the educational pricing
available today certainly makes things a lot easier to afford.
That's it unless you just want to spill your guts and give me any other info 
you think I might find useful.  For anyone in this area, I'm dealing with 
Citadel Computers, Colorado Springs.
Cheers and thanks, Dave

CMSgt David K Detert, USAF       MILNet:  detert@lognet2.af.mil

diamond@cbmvax.commodore.com (Howard Diamond - Ed Marketing) (09/12/90)

In article <30170@nigel.ee.udel.edu> detert@lognet2.af.mil (CMS David K. Detebt) writes:
>
>Oh folks, here's your chance to give me your views on purchasing an A3000
>using Commodore's Educational Discount Program.  I currently have an A1000
>with 1.5 meg and 2 floppy drives.  I am interested in such applications
>as Deluxe Paint III, Deluxe Video II, telecommunications and exploring the
>new AmigaVision.  I know it's a super machine, so what I need to know
>is the answer to a couple of questions.
>First, are the current units shipping WITH AmigaVision or will I get some
>kind of certificate?

The systems are now shipping WITH AmigaVision. 

>Second, will the ROM chip for 2.0 be provided free of charge at some later
>date and how will the current version of the 3000 differ from those once
>the ROM becomes available?  I understand there is now some RAM used to 
>hold 2.0 and this is what the ROM will replace, correct?

When the new ROM is available, it will be made available to everybody who
purchased a system prior to it being available. (That is the answer to the
marketing side of the question, I'll let one of my colleagues in Engineering
respond to the technical side.)


>Third, how much of the new ECS does the 3000 have?  I've moved recently
>and just got back my UseNEt feed so I missed several hundred messages
>in the past few months.

I actually think I can answer this one, but again I will defer to Engineering,
since I would be concerned if they tried to respond to marketing questions!!

>Last, what is the current status of the sales tax question?  The form only
>talks to certain states, does anyone know if Colorado still has to collect
>taxes even though they are not one of those listed?

No taxes are collected with an Educational order in Colorado.

>I lied, just one more, is there any reason for anyone who likes the Amiga
>not to buy an A3000 at this point?  I keep seeing references to over-priced, etc.,
>but compared to the original retail price of the A1000, the educational pricing
>available today certainly makes things a lot easier to afford.


I am clearly biased, so I will let somebody else respond to this one.
(otherwise, I'd say something like OVERPRICED!!! GIVE ME A BREAK!!!)

>That's it unless you just want to spill your guts and give me any other info 
>you dhink I might find useful.  For anyone in this area, I'm dealing with 
>Citadel Computers, Colobado Springs.
>Cheers and thanks, Dave
>
>CMSgt David K Detert, USAF       MILNet:  detert@lognet2.af.mil


-- 


Howard S. Diamond  Director of Education, Commodore Business Machines
1200 Wilson Drive West Chester, Pa, 19380
diamond@cbmvax.commodore.com  215-431-9142
MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND!! AMIGA!

drd@cec2.wustl.edu (David Reed Donat) (09/13/90)

In article <14373@cbmvax.commodore.com> diamond@cbmvax.commodore.com (Howard Diamond - Ed Marketing) writes:
>In article <30170@nigel.ee.udel.edu> detert@lognet2.af.mil (CMS David K. Detebt) writes:
>>
>>Oh folks, here's your chance to give me your views on purchasing an A3000
>>using Commodore's Educational Discount Program.  I currently have an A1000
>>with 1.5 meg and 2 floppy drives.  I am interested in such applications
>>as Deluxe Paint III, Deluxe Video II, telecommunications and exploring the
>>new AmigaVision.  I know it's a super machine, so what I need to know
>>is the answer to a couple of questions.
>>First, are the current units shipping WITH AmigaVision or will I get some
>>kind of certificate?
>
>The systems are now shipping WITH AmigaVision. 
>

They are?  I purchased a 3000 on educational discount that arrived two weeks
ago, replete with a certified AmigaVision certificate.  I would be very
disappointed if I missed out on this; I was looking forward to using the
software.

Are they just having development problems?  (I love the "please allow 4-46
weeks for delivery" notice) 



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diamond@cbmvax.commodore.com (Howard Diamond - Ed Marketing) (09/13/90)

In article <1990Sep12.224356.23078@cec1.wustl.edu> drd@cec2.wustl.edu (David Reed Donat) writes:
>In article <14373@cbmvax.commodore.com> diamond@cbmvax.commodore.com (Howard Diamond - Ed Marketing) writes:
>>In article <30170@nigel.ee.udel.edu> detert@lognet2.af.mil (CMS David K. Detebt) writes:
>>>
>>>Oh folks, here's your chance to give me your views on purchasing an A3000
>>>using Commodore's Educational Discount Program.  I currently have an A1000
>>>with 1.5 meg and 2 floppy drives.  I am interested in such applications
>>>as Deluxe Paint III, Deluxe Video II, telecommunications and exploring the
>>>new AmigaVision.  I know it's a super machine, so what I need to know
>>>is the answer to a couple of questions.
>>>First, are the current units shipping WITH AmigaVision or will I get some
>>>kind of certificate?
>>
>>The systems are now shipping WITH AmigaVision. 
>>
>
>They are?  I purchased a 3000 on educational discount that arrived two weeks
>ago, replete with a certified AmigaVision certificate.  I would be very
>disappointed if I missed out on this; I was looking forward to using the
>software.


Yes, they are, though you are right, they weren't two weeks ago.  Timing IS
everything!!

>
>Are they just having development problems?  (I love the "please allow 4-46
>weeks for delivery" notice) 
>
>
>
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>|			       |        - "Weird Al" Yankovic		     |  ------------------------------------------------------------------------------


-- 


Howard S. Diamond  Director of Education, Commodore Business Machines
1200 Wilson Drive West Chester, Pa, 19380
diamond@cbmvax.commodore.com  215-431-9142
MAKE UP YOUR OWN MIND!! AMIGA!

karl@cbmvax.commodore.com (Karl Herrman - CATS) (09/13/90)

In article <1990Sep12.224356.23078@cec1.wustl.edu> drd@cec2.wustl.edu (David Reed Donat) writes:
>In article <14373@cbmvax.commodore.com> diamond@cbmvax.commodore.com (Howard Diamond - Ed Marketing) writes:
>>
>>The systems are now shipping WITH AmigaVision. 
>
>They are?  I purchased a 3000 on educational discount that arrived two weeks
>ago, replete with a certified AmigaVision certificate.  I would be very
>disappointed if I missed out on this; I was looking forward to using the
>software.

The A3000s shipping now have AmigaVision with them.  AmigaVision went into the
A3000 and A2000 series about the beginning of this month (September).  You
received one that was built before that and got the card.  Send the card in
and you should get AmigaVision back in about 4 to 6 weeks.

>Are they just having development problems?  (I love the "please allow 4-46
>weeks for delivery" notice) 

We did have some problems exterminating some of the bugs we found.  But these
have now been solved.  You got one of the original cards.  For some of the
people who bought their A3000 early this may be true. ;-)

>| Dave Donat

Karl Herrmann
C.A.T.S.
Software Specialist