[comp.sys.amiga] Reading AMIGA-floppies using a UNIX system

ferry@chorus.fr (Ferry de Jong) (09/05/90)

Hello amiga-users,

Is there some bright fellow (male/female) who can tell me how to load some
sources from amiga-formatted disks into the UNIX machine's we have here.
I have some (possible) interesing sources I would like to post to one
or another .sources newsgroup but haven't found a way to do this yet.

Who knows the answer to this irritating problem???

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alanh@hpsmeng1.HP.COM (Alan Haight) (09/11/90)

> / hpsmeng1:comp.sys.amiga / ferry@chorus.fr (Ferry de Jong) /  4:27 am  Sep  5, 1990 /
> Hello amiga-users,
>
> Is there some bright fellow (male/female) who can tell me how to load some
> sources from amiga-formatted disks into the UNIX machine's we have here.
> I have some (possible) interesing sources I would like to post to one
> or another .sources newsgroup but haven't found a way to do this yet.
>
> Who knows the answer to this irritating problem???

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  Well, I'm using HP-UX (HP UNIX) and what I do is use CrossDos and/or Dos2Dos
to format a IB? disk [You can't get much on those wimpy 720K disks ;-) ] and
copy the AMIGA stuff onto it. Then I use a program called doscp (DOS COPY) on
the UNIX system to transfer the files from the 3.5" IB? disk onto the UNIX
system.  I don't know if the program doscp is a standard file or if it is
unique to HP's system.  These programs are under /usr/bin and I only have the
binary.  There are about 9 files that start with dos* to do different things.

  Good Luck.
     Alan Haight

marco@hprmokg.HP.COM (Marco Gonzalez) (09/12/90)

/ hprmokg:comp.sys.amiga / alanh@hpsmeng1.HP.COM (Alan Haight) / 12:55 pm  Sep 10, 1990 /
> / hpsmeng1:comp.sys.amiga / ferry@chorus.fr (Ferry de Jong) /  4:27 am  Sep  5, 1990 /
> Hello amiga-users,
>
> Is there some bright fellow (male/female) who can tell me how to load some
> sources from amiga-formatted disks into the UNIX machine's we have here.
> I have some (possible) interesing sources I would like to post to one
> or another .sources newsgroup but haven't found a way to do this yet.
>
> Who knows the answer to this irritating problem???

_____________________________________________________________________________

  Well, I'm using HP-UX (HP UNIX) and what I do is use CrossDos and/or Dos2Dos
to format a IB? disk [You can't get much on those wimpy 720K disks ;-) ] and
copy the AMIGA stuff onto it. Then I use a program called doscp (DOS COPY) on
the UNIX system to transfer the files from the 3.5" IB? disk onto the UNIX
system.  I don't know if the program doscp is a standard file or if it is
unique to HP's system.  These programs are under /usr/bin and I only have the
binary.  There are about 9 files that start with dos* to do different things.

  Good Luck.
     Alan Haight

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ill@uni-paderborn.de (Markus Illenseer) (09/14/90)

ferry@chorus.fr (Ferry de Jong) writes:

>Hello amiga-users,

>Is there some bright fellow (male/female) who can tell me how to load some
>sources from amiga-formatted disks into the UNIX machine's we have here.
>I have some (possible) interesing sources I would like to post to one
>or another .sources newsgroup but haven't found a way to do this yet.

>Who knows the answer to this irritating problem???
[sig deleted]
Interesting problem which should not be a real problem.
On UNIX net I am working, there are some IBM AT's with 3 1/2 " Floppies.
So the easiest would be to format the Disk under DOS (MS-DOS), then
goto your Amiga, use Cross-Dos, D2D (Dos to Dos) or Messy-Dos or
the BridgeBoards to copy files. 
Via ftp, the IBMs are connected to UNIX Net.
Next Idea: 
Use Terminal Programm via Phone or Ser-Port. Use kermit under UNIX.
Other Idea:
Do it with your fingers (type source on UNIX), say 12 Bauds ?
If UNIX on 386 Machine (IBM or clones), then use tcp/ip or nfs or something like
that, to copy files to MS-DOS Disk, then use Cross-Dos or other Progs to copy 
to Amiga.
It is the best way at all to use MS-DOS formatted Disks. If any other solution
is known, please let us know ! What about DNET ?
CU, Markus.
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   Markus Illenseer                I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid, I can't do that. 
     4790 Paderborn ,United Germany           Email: ill@uni-paderborn.de 
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myb100@csc.anu.oz.au (09/14/90)

In article <1990Sep13.182612.6681@uni-paderborn.de>, ill@uni-paderborn.de (Markus Illenseer) writes:
> ferry@chorus.fr (Ferry de Jong) writes:
> 
>>Hello amiga-users,
> 
>>Is there some bright fellow (male/female) who can tell me how to load some
>>sources from amiga-formatted disks into the UNIX machine's we have here.
>>I have some (possible) interesing sources I would like to post to one
>>or another .sources newsgroup but haven't found a way to do this yet.
> 
>>Who knows the answer to this irritating problem???
> [sig deleted]
> Interesting problem which should not be a real problem.
[...several good suggestions deleted...]

Another way to go (which I use regularly) is to use MessyDos (MSH:) on the Amiga
to format/read/write 720k disks, and use MTOOLS on the SPARC stations.
MTOOLS is a set of programmes running under Unix which allow SPARCS to
read/write MS-DOS 720k (and 1.44M too I think) disks.

Look for mtools in comp.sources.unix ..... somewhere.... (I can't remember 
where I last saw it. - if things get too difficult I might be able to find our
sources on our system here somewhere and send them to you)[you=Ferry]

> ********************************************************************************
>    Markus Illenseer                I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid, I can't do that. 
>      4790 Paderborn ,United Germany           Email: ill@uni-paderborn.de 
> ********************************************************************************
                        ^^^^Nice touch !

Hi from one Markus to another ! :-) 

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baeder@shamu.cadence.com (D. Scott Baeder; x299) (09/15/90)

Just to really go one further, here's how I do it...

Our suns talk to a MAC network using TOPS. So, I copy the file to a
directory that is also being "served to the MAC.  Then, using the
Apple File Exchange, I format a 720K MDSOS Disk, and translate it
directly from the Sun to the MAC.  Then, use Messy-dos to read it at
home onto Amy.

Scott

consp11@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Brett Kessler) (09/18/90)

In article <1990Sep13.182612.6681@uni-paderborn.de>,
ill@uni-paderborn.de (Markus Illenseer) writes:
|>>Is there some bright fellow (male/female) who can tell me how to load some
|>>sources from amiga-formatted disks into the UNIX machine's we have here.
|>>I have some (possible) interesing sources I would like to post to one
|>>or another .sources newsgroup but haven't found a way to do this yet.

Here at SUNY-Binghamton, one of my fellow consultants is currently
working on a program that will take a diskette formatted on a
SparcStation's floppy drive and allow it to be read and unpacked onto an
MS-DOS diskette.  From there, it's easy enough to get the crosover to
AmigaDOS with something like MSH, CrossDOS or DOS2DOS.

Right now we're still beta-testing it (it's pretty finicky about which
disks it will actually read), and error-checking routines are being
incorporated.  It will be shareware once he's finished with it.

I'll see what I can do about getting his permission to post it to
comp.sys.amiga even though it's an MS-DOS program.

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matth@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Matthew Hannigan) (09/26/90)

In article <4046@bingvaxu.cc.binghamton.edu> consp11@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Brett Kessler) writes:

[ .. stuff deleted .. ]

>SparcStation's floppy drive and allow it to be read and unpacked onto an
>MS-DOS diskette.  From there, it's easy enough to get the crosover to
>AmigaDOS with something like MSH, CrossDOS or DOS2DOS.
>
>Right now we're still beta-testing it (it's pretty finicky about which
>disks it will actually read), and error-checking routines are being
>incorporated.  It will be shareware once he's finished with it.
>
>I'll see what I can do about getting his permission to post it to
>comp.sys.amiga even though it's an MS-DOS program.

How about from the amiga3000ux to amigados floppies?
This is the thing I want!  Even if amiga unix could write
to msdos floppies, it would be a start.

Thanks in advance for any help.  Mail please as well as I'm not sure
I have the time to read this huge group!

	-Matt Hannigan