[comp.sys.amiga] Amiga Developers

rcs91900@zach.fit.edu ( Charles Stockman /ADVISOR-Clutterham) (09/27/90)

When I brought my first Amiga 1000 back in the summer of 87 there were many 
reasons why I brought it.  Here are a few of them :

        1) graphics included in word processing
        2) An AI package
        3) A good C-Compiler (unix compatible)
        4) pictures stored in a data base

In the beginning I brought software packages (arexx,wshell,Manx-C and others)   
simple because I was stupid enough to believe this ideas

        If ( I support the Amiga Community ) 
        then
              the Amiga Software would become more and more diverse
              and produce more products that I wanted.

However, due to the fact that the Amiga developers want to ignore the object
orientated langauges, science and mathmaticial areas, my if-then statement above
has been changed to 

        If ( I support the Amiga Community )
        then
             the Amiga software I want will never be built

This idea did not come over night , but it came after years of feeling that
Amiga developers wanted to ignore people interested in object orientated design
math and science. 

Consider this, most users of the Amiga that I have met seem very intelligent 
and want to do a lot of serious work for the Amiga, but a lot of them have 
said that they did not have the right tools.

For example I am thinking of doing an object orientated simulation language 
in C++ for a thesis next year and I wanted to do it on the Amiga.   However,
I can not even started.  Why can I not get started ? Simple there is not a 
good C++ compiler for the Amiga (I heard about lattice and not going to spend
$300 dollars for it).  However, I could do it on the mac or ibm very easily !!

By the way I do not consider the Amiga the leader in Multimedia because it has
the raw resources, but none of the stacks that the Macintosh does.  For example
I could get about 1000 stacks and easily store them on cd-rom and create a
pretty good general knowledge database.  Could you do this on the amiga.  Yes
, but you would have to write 950 stacks at least.

Also Commodore is trying to get the Amiga in the collages and high schools of
Americia.  If I was deciding which computer to buy, I would have to buy the
mac for everything, but programming circuits and geography and basic areas of
study.  Why ?? Simple the mac has software that deals with genetics,physics,
history and health.  

Amiga Developers if you want me to buy Amiga Software then build the software
I want.  That all I ask, build the software and I will not mind buying it !!
if you do not build the software that I want then I will not buy it.

To end on a positive note I have seen some small improvements

Workbench 2.0 --> Excellent improvements, keeps upgrading the parts of it that
                  are good and tries to improve a lot of what is wrong.   This
                  was an excellent upgrade which tries to upgrade the parts of
                  the system that were weak and keep updating the parts that 
                  were strong.

Pert Chart   -->  Wow a software engineering software on the Amiga.  Amiga 
                  Developers are supposed to recreate the wheel a 1000 times
                  over, not go into new areas 

Pro Write    -->  The use of subscripts and superscripts in word processing
                  software (other word processors may have this ability, but
                  I seen it there).

Small improvements, but a faint glimmer of hope !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mwm@raven.pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) (09/27/90)

In article <1402@winnie.fit.edu> rcs91900@zach.fit.edu ( Charles Stockman /ADVISOR-Clutterham) writes:

	   If ( I support the Amiga Community )
	   then
		the Amiga software I want will never be built

Since he felt like saying it many (4 so far) times, I figured I might
as well answer.

If you need specific software, and it apparently isn't being written,
then write it yourself. If you don't have the skill, then convince
someone else to write it for you. Waving money at them works wonder
(try it on me some time). If you need something for a niche market
(and everything else on the Amiga is pretty well covered) and can't
get it produced yourself, then you bought your machine the wrong way.
Instead of buying the machine with the best capabilities and hoping
someone produces the software you want, you should choose the software
you want to run, and then buy the machine it runs best on.

And yes, I'm still waiting for niche market software to appear, and
trying to find time to do it myself.

	<mike
--
My feet are set for dancing,				Mike Meyer
Won't you turn your music on.				mwm@relay.pa.dec.com
My heart is like a loaded gun,				decwrl!mwm
Won't you let the water run.

mwm@raven.pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) (09/27/90)

In article <1402@winnie.fit.edu> rcs91900@zach.fit.edu ( Charles Stockman /ADVISOR-Clutterham) writes:

	   If ( I support the Amiga Community )
	   then
		the Amiga software I want will never be built

Since he felt like saying it many (4 so far) times, I figured I might
as well answer.

If you need specific software, and it apparently isn't being written,
then write it yourself. If you don't have the skill, then convince
someone else to write it for you. Waving money at them works wonder
(try it on me some time). If you need something for a niche market
(and everything else on the Amiga is pretty well covered) and can't
get it produced yourself, then you bought your machine the wrong way.
Instead of buying the machine with the best capabilities and hoping
someone produces the software you want, you should choose the software
you want to run, and then buy the machine it runs best on.

And yes, I'm still waiting for niche market software to appear, and
trying to find time to do it myself.

	<mike
--
I know the world is flat.				Mike Meyer
Don't try tell me that it's round.			mwm@relay.pa.dec.com
I know the world stands still.				decwrl!mwm
Don't try to make it turn around.

mwm@raven.pa.dec.com (Mike (My Watch Has Windows) Meyer) (09/27/90)

In article <1402@winnie.fit.edu> rcs91900@zach.fit.edu ( Charles Stockman /ADVISOR-Clutterham) writes:

	   If ( I support the Amiga Community )
	   then
		the Amiga software I want will never be built

Since he felt like saying it many (4 so far) times, I figured I might
as well answer.

If you need specific software, and it apparently isn't being written,
then write it yourself. If you don't have the skill, then convince
someone else to write it for you. Waving money at them works wonder
(try it on me some time). If you need something for a niche market
(and everything else on the Amiga is pretty well covered) and can't
get it produced yourself, then you bought your machine the wrong way.
Instead of buying the machine with the best capabilities and hoping
someone produces the software you want, you should choose the software
you want to run, and then buy the machine it runs best on.

And yes, I'm still waiting for niche market software to appear, and
trying to find time to do it myself.

	<mike
--
Kiss me with your mouth.				Mike Meyer
Your love is better than wine.				mwm@relay.pa.dec.com
But wine is all I have.					decwrl!mwm
Will your love ever be mine?

joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph P. Hillenburg) (09/27/90)

AAAAAAAAAAAAARGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! This message has gone through 
the net THREE TIMES!

-Joseph Hillenburg

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Doug_B_Erdely@cup.portal.com (09/27/90)

How many times is this SAME message going to be posted!?! It was also posted
a couple of days ago. ONCE IS ENOUGH!!

	- Doug -

Doug_B_Erdely@Cup.Portal.Com