boily@phy.ulaval.ca (Edouard Boily) (09/29/90)
Hi, I just received the Sept/Oct issue of "Cpmputers in Physics" and there is a letter from C. F. Coasts (Alabama) titled "Friendly Amigas" where he asks the following question: [...] "Admittedly, Crandall's article did not mention a networking project, codenamed Godzilla Supercomputer Experiment, that should give trouble to Amigas in their basic configuration. So I have a question: Do any of your reader know if the networking capabilities of the new Unix-based Amigas would permit their use in such an experiment?" Since I do not know the answer, and I want to, I turn the question to you. If anybody know an answer, it would be nice to answer to Mr. Coast. If you don't want to write to CiP, I will, but I need an answer to the above first! A response in this publication, positive or negative, is a publicity for the Amiga... Anyone? - Edouard .---------------------------------------------------------. | boily@phy.ulaval.ca 1150055@LAVALVX1.bitnet | |---------------------------------------------------------| | Edouard Boily | Projects: AmiGraph, AmigIRAF, A.I.R.P. | | Physic's Dept. | Interests: Astronomy, Comp. Sciences | | Laval Univ. | Work: On my Ph. D. _ // | | Quebec, CANADA | Citation: Not yet! \X/ | `---------------------------------------------------------'
hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey) (09/29/90)
In article <31879@nigel.ee.udel.edu> boily@phy.ulaval.ca (Edouard Boily) writes: > and there is a letter from C. F. Coasts (Alabama) titled "Friendly > Amigas" where he asks the following question: > > [...] > "Admittedly, Crandall's article did not mention a > networking project, codenamed Godzilla Supercomputer > Experiment, that should give trouble to Amigas in > their basic configuration. So I have a question: Do > any of your reader know if the networking capabilities > of the new Unix-based Amigas would permit their use in > such an experiment?" > > Since I do not know the answer, and I want to, I turn the > question to you. If anybody know an answer, it would be nice to > answer to Mr. Coast. If you don't want to write to CiP, I will, but I > need an answer to the above first! > > | boily@phy.ulaval.ca 1150055@LAVALVX1.bitnet | In mathematics, this would probably be called an ill-posed problem. The networking model that is used to compare against others is the OSI (Open System Interconnection) from the ISO (Interational Standards Organization)--please note that it is a palindrome :-) (i..e ISO OSI).. Anyway, the OSI is only a model. In practice, some of its layers are comprised of (or maybe filched from) other standards making orgaizations. For example, in the lower layers, it uses the IEEE 802.x standards such as Ethernet (CSMA/CD), Token Ring and Token Bus. In the upper layers there are standards left over from the ARPAnet days i.e. TCP/IP. (ARPAnet is gone but not NSFnet !) TCP/IP essentially consists of FTP, Telnet and SMTP. All systems that claim to have TCP-IP protocols have to offer these. So, the AMiga Unix system will have these too. In addition there are other de facto networking standards such as NFS (Network Filing System) which was pioneered by Sun. There is also X window standard from MIT. AMiga Unix offers these too. So, I don't understand what the problem is about...... Would you care to explain this in a little more detail ???? It is beginning to sound like; "Mr. X cannot do a triple sommersault. Therefore he is incompetent." Really ???? Regards -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- hubey@pilot.njin.net | hubey@apollo.montclair.edu | ...!rutgers!njin!hubey -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
scott@NIC.GAC.EDU (09/30/90)
[...] "Admittedly, Crandall's article did not mention a networking project, codenamed Godzilla Supercomputer Experiment, that should give trouble to Amigas in their basic configuration. So I have a question: Do any of your reader know if the networking capabilities of the new Unix-based Amigas would permit their use in such an experiment?" Since I do not know the answer, and I want to, I turn the question to you. If anybody know an answer, it would be nice to answer to Mr. Coast. If you don't want to write to CiP, I will, but I need an answer to the above first! I believe that all that is needed is support for the remote execution via the rexec call. NFS would be nice, too. Since we can safely assume NFS (only IBM expects you to be amazed that their unix machine supports NFS. And windowed apps, too!), and rexec(3) is a trivial write more many people familiar with unix and tcp/ip, . . . yes, I suspect the Amiga could support it under its new unix. If/when it comes out. I guess I really don't see any reason why the Amiga couldn't support it right now. Amigas can do NFS already (can't they?), and, as mentioned, rexec() is trivial . . . scott hess scott@gac.edu Independent NeXT Developer (Stuart) NeXT Campus Consultant (Not much, really) GAC Undergrad (Horrid. Simply Horrid. I mean the work!)
phorgan@cup.portal.com (Patrick John Horgan) (09/30/90)
|Anyway, the OSI is only a model. In practice, some of its |layers are comprised of (or maybe filched from) other standards |making orgaizations. For example, in the lower layers, it |uses the IEEE 802.x standards such as Ethernet (CSMA/CD), Token |Ring and Token Bus. | |In the upper layers there are standards left over from the |ARPAnet days i.e. TCP/IP. (ARPAnet is gone but not NSFnet !) | |TCP/IP essentially consists of FTP, Telnet and SMTP. All systems |that claim to have TCP-IP protocols have to offer these. So, |the AMiga Unix system will have these too. | |In addition there are other de facto networking standards such |as NFS (Network Filing System) which was pioneered by Sun. There is |also X window standard from MIT. AMiga Unix offers these too. | |So, I don't understand what the problem is about...... Furthermore, Amiga NOW supports all this, with mostly public domain stuff if desired, all of this. After you buy an ethernet card you can (if the card doesn't come with it), use public domain TCP/IP stuff. Patrick Horgan phorgan@cup.portal.com