[comp.sys.amiga] Extended keyboards and cases.

wayned@wddami.spoami.com (Wayne Diener) (09/26/90)

>In article <31562@nigel.ee.udel.edu> S36666WB%ETSUACAD.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu (Brian Wright) writes:
>Hello,
>
>     I am curious to find out whether or not an extended keyboard has been
>thought about.  5 more function keys would make VT100 a lot more useable.
>Separate pg up and pg down keys would be nice also.  There are probably
>a few more keys that would be nice too, maybe an insert key?
>

Since I've just started working for a keyboard manufacturer, I've kind
of been wondering myself if there might be any use for new/replacement/
modified keyboards for the Amiga(s).  If it looked like the market might
support 5K + keyboards in the near future, I could probably generate
enough interest at work to get a new keyboard out for the Amiga.

If you'd be interested in one, drop me an email.  If you'd like to
offer suggestions as to what might be nice/neat/dumb/etc in a new
keyboard, I'd like to see that info also.  If there's much response
I'll summarize and re-post.

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S36666WB%ETSUACAD.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu (Brian Wright) (09/26/90)

Hello,

     I am curious to find out whether or not an extended keyboard has been
thought about.  5 more function keys would make VT100 a lot more useable.
Separate pg up and pg down keys would be nice also.  There are probably
a few more keys that would be nice too, maybe an insert key?

     I have just thought of this.  How easy would it be to make an extended
height case for the 3000?  Maybe 2.5 to 3 inches taller. It might look a little
wierd, but think of the usefulness of such a case.  A taller backplane with
more slots would fit.  You could add more drive bays and even design one of
the bays to accept any type tape or bernoulli drive.  I have no idea what the
heat factor would be, but a silent fan could be added if needed.  If one
were available, i'd definitely consider purchasing it.  How much would the
extended backplane be?  Hmmm.  I wonder...

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joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph P. Hillenburg) (09/27/90)

S36666WB%ETSUACAD.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu (Brian Wright) writes:

> Hello,
> 
>      I am curious to find out whether or not an extended keyboard has been
> thought about.  5 more function keys would make VT100 a lot more useable.
> Separate pg up and pg down keys would be nice also.  There are probably
> a few more keys that would be nice too, maybe an insert key?
> 
>      I have just thought of this.  How easy would it be to make an extended
> height case for the 3000?  Maybe 2.5 to 3 inches taller. It might look a litt
> wierd, but think of the usefulness of such a case.  A taller backplane with
> more slots would fit.  You could add more drive bays and even design one of
> the bays to accept any type tape or bernoulli drive.  I have no idea what the
> heat factor would be, but a silent fan could be added if needed.  If one
> were available, i'd definitely consider purchasing it.  How much would the
> extended backplane be?  Hmmm.  I wonder...
> 
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> ||---Commercial Artist and Amigaphile|  \/\/      Makes It Possible!!  ||
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From what I've heard, on here and in the mags, we'll get an A3000 style 
case for the A2x00 series. That type of case for the A3000 isn't 
neccessary if the rumors about a tower Amiga is true.

-Joseph Hillenburg

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sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) (09/28/90)

joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph P. Hillenburg) writes:


>From what I've heard, on here and in the mags, we'll get an A3000 style 
>case for the A2x00 series. That type of case for the A3000 isn't 
>neccessary if the rumors about a tower Amiga is true.

You lost me. How would you stick a 2000 in a 3000 case, and why bother?
The 2000 would have to be totally redesigned to fit in such a case, and
I can't see CBM going thru all that trouble just to make it look prettier.




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timm@public.BTR.COM (Timothy M. Maffett timm@btr.com) (09/29/90)

In article <wayned.9596@wddami.spoami.com> wayned@wddami.spoami.com (Wayne Diener) writes:
>>In article <31562@nigel.ee.udel.edu> S36666WB%ETSUACAD.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu (Brian Wright) writes:
>>Hello,
>>
>>     I am curious to find out whether or not an extended keyboard has been
>>thought about.  5 more function keys would make VT100 a lot more useable.
>>Separate pg up and pg down keys would be nice also.  There are probably
>>a few more keys that would be nice too, maybe an insert key?
>>
>
>Since I've just started working for a keyboard manufacturer, I've kind
>of been wondering myself if there might be any use for new/replacement/
>modified keyboards for the Amiga(s).  If it looked like the market might
>support 5K + keyboards in the near future, I could probably generate
>enough interest at work to get a new keyboard out for the Amiga.
>
>|       //                  Wayne D. Diener                     |
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    I have never seen this mentioned on the net before so... 
Northgate (a LARGE PC clone manufacture) also makes a variety of
replacement keyboards for PC and other computers. Well one of these
computers is the Amiga 2000/2500/3000.  The manuals for the keyboard
are about 1/3 dedicated to Amiga specific hookup, explantations on
how to use the extra keys (makeing an extended keymap, etc.)  The
keyboards are quite nice, have a good feel, etc, and are said to be
the most popular replacement keyboard for PC's.  They come in a bunch
of different key configurations, some with >20 Function keys and all
the other vt220 keys.  You can make keymaps for these keyboards which
support  all of the keys on the amiga.  
   If you pick up a computer shopper some time they usually have 5-10
pages devoted to the different models.  They range from around 89$ for
a 101key model up to around $150 for the top of the line ~150 key model.
They keyboards have such nifty things as keybaord controled key repeat
speed/delay/acceleration, key click/or no key click, .... 
   I found out about these on GEnie, where someone has posted keymaps,
and other misc. info regarding these keyboards.
-tim
I am in no way affilitated with anything, I just like my keyboard :)

kaufmads@clutx.clarkson.edu (Dana S. Kaufman,TEP House,58520,) (10/01/90)

From article <493@public.BTR.COM>, by timm@public.BTR.COM (Timothy M. Maffett  timm@btr.com):
> In article <wayned.9596@wddami.spoami.com> wayned@wddami.spoami.com (Wayne Diener) writes:
>>>In article <31562@nigel.ee.udel.edu> S36666WB%ETSUACAD.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu (Brian Wright) writes:
>>>Hello,
>>>
>>>     I am curious to find out whether or not an extended keyboard has been
>>>thought about.  5 more function keys would make VT100 a lot more useable.
>>>Separate pg up and pg down keys would be nice also.  There are probably
>>>a few more keys that would be nice too, maybe an insert key?
>>>
>>
>>Since I've just started working for a keyboard manufacturer, I've kind
>>of been wondering myself if there might be any use for new/replacement/
>>modified keyboards for the Amiga(s).  If it looked like the market might
>>support 5K + keyboards in the near future, I could probably generate
>>enough interest at work to get a new keyboard out for the Amiga.
>>
>>|       //                  Wayne D. Diener                     |
>>|      //                   Spokane, WA                         |
>>|  \\ //     E-mail reply to:                                   |   
>>|   \X/      To: isc-br!hawk!wddami!wayned@uunet.uu.net         |
> 

An inexpensive clone keyboard for an A2000 would be great for us Amiga 1000
owners with extra A1000 w/out keyboards.

Dana S. Kaufmads
kaufmads@clutx.clarkson.edu

xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) (10/01/90)

Aha!  The perfect thread for a really off the wall request or two:

I run my Amiga 2000 on edge to the left of a standard cheapo $99 computer
desk (it wouldn't fit with the monitor in the cpu cubbyhole of the desk,
so it sits on a cinderblock beside the desk).

This has led to a couple of items on my wish list for the tower 3500
Amiga of firm rumor.

First, while the mouse and commercial joystick cables are long enough for
someone farsighted to work at a normal 4' from the screen, and even the
keyboard will reach, the monitor cable is snug enough to require the block
under the console, and the keyboard cable is too short to allow the keyboard
to sit in a normal typing position on the desk, since the wire joins the
right end of the keyboard  from six inches down and two feet left on the
console.  How about another two feet of slack in all the wires, guys?  It
may cost a bit, but it is worth the perceived quality you gain by not
being a constant irritation to the customers.

Second, I miss my keyboard garage (in the other room); it kept the keyboard
out of reach of cat paws and toddler mischief.  How about a standard mounting
bracket on the tower that lets me store the keyboard out of harm's way when
not in use?  Either a way to stand it on edge, or a sheath into which it can
be slipped.

Third, if you're going to keep selling fur and food magnet keyboards, how
about selling them standard with one of these neat plastic covers?  My
stuck key problems stopped when I sealed the keyboard in one of these
safe sex covers, because no more crud filters down to attach itself to the
keystems and jam them up.

Just some more cheap advice.

Kent, the man from xanth.
<xanthian@Zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <xanthian@well.sf.ca.us>

joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph P. Hillenburg) (10/02/90)

sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes:

> joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph P. Hillenburg) writes:
> 
> 
> >From what I've heard, on here and in the mags, we'll get an A3000 style 
> >case for the A2x00 series. That type of case for the A3000 isn't 
> >neccessary if the rumors about a tower Amiga is true.
> 
> You lost me. How would you stick a 2000 in a 3000 case, and why bother?
> The 2000 would have to be totally redesigned to fit in such a case, and
> I can't see CBM going thru all that trouble just to make it look prettier.
> 
> 
> 
> 
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No. They would make a new case that *looked* like the A3000 case, to make 
the machine look more professional.

-Joseph Hillenburg

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