JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) (09/28/90)
(repost) I've seen three postings recently concerning "I'm going to sell my Amiga and buy a 386" or "The A2000 is priced the same as this 286 clone"... Well, I'd like to tell those considering buying an IBM about my setup: I own both an Amiga 2000/HD which is accelerated in no way. I also own a 386 clone with VGA and HD. Both have 3 megs of memory. Both have 2 floppies in addition to their HD's. The 386's clock speed is 16 MHz as opposed to the Amiga's 7 MHz. The Amiga unquestionably outperforms the 386. All tasks I run on both are noticably slower on the 386. More importantly, they are more *difficult* on the 386. Windows 3.0 is still kludgy, I don't care what anyone says. It's gotten to the point where I never use the 386. Every time I run something on it, I think "My Amiga can do this better... Why aren't I using it?" ...and I do. I feel like I wasted the $2000 I paid for the 386. I'm just glad I got a good deal and didn't pay more for this paperweight. Kurt -- ----------------------------------------------------------------------- || Kurt Tappe (215) 363-9485 || Amigas, Macs, IBM's, C-64's, NeXTs, || || 184 W. Valley Hill Rd. || Apple ]['s.... I use 'em all. || || Malvern, PA 19355-2214 || (and in that order too! ;-) || || jkt100@psuvm.psu.edu --------------------------------------|| || jkt100@psuvm.bitnet jkt100%psuvm.bitnet@psuvax1 QLink: KurtTappe || -----------------------------------------------------------------------
griff@anvil.intel.com (Richard Griffith) (10/03/90)
In article <90270.194414JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu>, JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) writes: > From: JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) > [ stuff deleted ] > The Amiga unquestionably outperforms the 386. All tasks I run on both > are noticably slower on the 386. More importantly, they are more > *difficult* on the 386. Windows 3.0 is still kludgy, I don't care > what anyone says. I just love it when a DOS user tells me how he now has "multitasking" with 3.0 - I just tell him to go format 2 disks and write a letter on a word processor - or shoot - just format 2 disks at once. :-) I was just talking to an engineer here at *ntel and he said something like: well, the more you know about computers, the less likely you are to buy *BM - and the more you know about software the less likely you are to buy a clone. - too bad so many developers have to count on huge market - maybe the point here is that if your software was good to begin with - you wouldn't need a potential market measured in millions - [brevity time] **** Thanks for the rant and rave .... :-) - griff :Richard E. Griffith, "griff" : iNTEL, Hillsboro Ore. :griff@anvil.hf.intel.com :SCA!: Cyrus Hammerhand, Household of the Golden Wolf, Dragons' Mist, An Tir :These are MY opinions, if iNTEL wanted them, They'd pay for `em!
duncan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Shan D Duncan) (10/04/90)
From article <1424@gandalf.littlei.UUCP>, by griff@anvil.intel.com (Richard Griffith): > In article <90270.194414JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu>, JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu > (JKT) writes: >> From: JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) >> > [ stuff deleted ] >> The Amiga unquestionably outperforms the 386. All tasks I run on both >> are noticably slower on the 386. More importantly, they are more >> *difficult* on the 386. Windows 3.0 is still kludgy, I don't care >> what anyone says. > I just love it when a DOS user tells me how he now has "multitasking" > with 3.0 - I just tell him to go format 2 disks and write a letter on a > word processor - or shoot - just format 2 disks at once. :-) I was > just talking to an engineer here at *ntel and he said something like: well, > the more you know about computers, the less likely you are to buy *BM - and > the more you know about software the less likely you are to buy a clone. - > too bad so many developers have to count on huge market - maybe the > point here > is that if your software was good to begin with - you wouldn't need a potential > market measured in millions - > > :Richard E. Griffith, "griff" : iNTEL, Hillsboro Ore. To add to the above with the words of Jerry Pournelle Windows 3.0 is "pretty niffty" on a FAST 386 with a large hd and extra memory. Barely on a fast 286. No way on a standard 286. Word for Windows "screams" on a 33 MHz Premier 9000 is not acceptable on a 286 or slow 386. Ami Professional for Windows same story forget the 286. Now that is just one program under Windows - what happens when you want to run several applications even on the "fast" 386s? Lets not even talk about OS/2 with its 4Mb memory min. I've ran programs on my amiga 2000 that could not be run on a "fast" Zenith 33MHz due to the memory limitations of DOS. Oh, we could have gotten a compiler that generated true 32 bit code for around $500 and a dos extender for another $500 or so, or moved to unix... So next time I hear about a super 386 deal... FOR some of my applications MSDOS is a joke... the extra cost of a decent operating system that handles more than 640k chunks, multitasks at a resonable speed without chewing up resources, and doesn't REQUIRE a fast hard disk or 4 Mb's of memory still makes the amiga a good soild choice for the price. But then I do more than just wordprocess, spreadsheet, or database.