WHE46@ccvax.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) (10/10/90)
In message <6762@sugar.hackercorp.com> Peter da Silva <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com> writes: >The following are a bunch of irrelevent comments. > >In article <5719@munnari.oz.au> krooglik@ecr.mu.oz.au (Small Guts) writes: > 4) Safety of the US postal system (or courier) > >Better than the safety of Australia Post. Having had various expensive-looking >packages disappear into the bowels of GPO Sydney over the years, I'd be more >worried about that. > >> By comparison, comparing C= US to C= Australia is like >> comparing a Porsche to a Volkswagen; One goes quick when and where you want >> to, the other breaks down and isn't much help at all. (Stuff about Porsches deleted) Copperman has done quite a job in turning Commodore U.S. around in the past year. Commodore still has problems, but fewer than it did a year ago. Unfortunately, the Commodore subsidiaries in other countries are still stuck in the mud. I say that the Commodore board ought to find a way to get rid of Irving Gould, and make Copperman the president, CEO, and Chairman of the Board of Commodore International, Ltd. This would allow him to turn all of Commodore around, and not just the US subsidiary. -MB-
peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (10/10/90)
In article <32916@nigel.ee.udel.edu> WHE46@ccvax.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) writes: > Copperman has done quite a job in turning Commodore U.S. around in the >past year. Commodore still has problems, but fewer than it did a year >ago. Unfortunately, the Commodore subsidiaries in other countries are >still stuck in the mud. Oh no, there are at least SOME exceptions :-)) -- Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
rwm@atronx.UUCP (Russell McOrmond) (10/11/90)
In a message posted on 9 Oct 90 19:34:47 GMT, MB> I say that the Commodore board ought to find a way to get rid of MB>Irving Gould, and make Copperman the president, CEO, and Chairman of the MB>Board of Commodore International, Ltd. This would allow him to turn MB>all of Commodore around, and not just the US subsidiary. Personally, I think that the US subsidiary is the one that needed it the most - the Amiga seems to be selling quite well in other countries, and in a lot of cases, receives more support. The Amiga right now has a very good and building software and hardware platform, but what we need most right now is Sales and Support - These are the parts of the Amiga picture that the Individual Commodore's take care of. Here's an example of something I don't expect to see here (Yes, I'm in Canada, but Canada is just a 'purchaser' from the U.S., and seems to follow a lot of the policy/etc). Commodore Australia has gotten together with their Police force, and is right now doing a major portion of their 'Mug Shot' and InterPol transfers using Amiga equipment. C= Aus took care of the hardware and software (Eithor themselves, or found the appropriate third party). Now, if this were to happen In Canada (It was from the RCMP that I found out about C= Australia's setup) I don't know if C= Canada would be able to keep things going - They depend quite a bit on the 'Dealer Network' (Which I am a part of at the store that I work for) and for the most part I do not think this is the way to go. anyways....:Later --- Opinions expressed in this message are my Own. My Employer does not even know what these networks ARE. Russell McOrmond rwm@atronx.UUCP {fts1,alzabo}!atronx!rwm FidoNet 1:163/109 Net Support: (613) 230-2282 Amiga-Fidonet Support 1:1/109
cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Christopher M Mauritz) (10/11/90)
>In a whine posted on 9 Oct 90 19:34:47 GMT, >MB> I say that the Commodore board ought to find a way to get rid of >MB>Irving Gould, and make Copperman the president, CEO, and Chairman of the >MB>Board of Commodore International, Ltd. This would allow him to turn >MB>all of Commodore around, and not just the US subsidiary. > Do you think at all before you post? I'm not trying to be nasty, but sometimes I just can't make any sense out of you, Marc. Being that CBM is a public company and that Irving Gould has a controlling stake in the common stock, THAT decides who is in charge. Money talks and all the whining about Irving Gould isn't going to change that fact. Sure, he earns a really fat salary. So what??? That is his perogative as CEO. If you want to change this policy, I suggest you start saving your pennies and buy up enough CBM stock to take over. Cheers, Chris ------------------------------+--------------------------- Chris Mauritz |D{r det finns en |l, finns cmm1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu |det en plan! (c)All rights reserved. | Send flames to /dev/null | ------------------------------+---------------------------
peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) (10/15/90)
Just went to a local "business" computer expo. NeXT was there. Sun was there. DEC was there in force. Intergraph was there. No Amigas in sight. Lots of really crummy Autocad Animator videos and sales-sluts raving about multimedia on IBM-PCs. The only person at the show who knew an Amiga from a hole in the ground was the technical type guy at the NeXT booth. The NeXT really acts like an Amiga on steroids... if an A3000UX retails for anything more then the $5000 the NeXTstation costs, forget it. Hey, Commodore? How about reading a few newspapers so you can find out about these things and make a showing? -- Peter da Silva. `-_-' <peter@sugar.hackercorp.com>.