[net.general] net.origins proposed

pmd@cbscc.UUCP (Paul Dubuc) (12/10/83)

I would like to propose that a news group be formed for discussion
of origins (i.e. the origin of the universe, life, human beings, etc.).
It is my hope that articles of a scientific and informative nature
would be submitted to this group.

Discussions of this nature have cropped up from time to time in
net.religion in the form of creation vs evolution debates.
I think it would be good not to burden the readers of net.religion
with the technical details of theories of origins.  I sense that
there are many, like myself, that are interested in ideas of origins
(of life, human speech, word meanings, anything) and would benefit
if a group to discuss these sort of things existed.

My feelings as to why this newsgroup should be created:
The fact that the origins issue is usually discussed in a religious
context disturbs me.  I think that the scientific validity of any
theory or belief should rest on its own merits and not be associated
with the religious beliefs of its supporters.  Also, the desire to
rebut a theory should not be the only motive for participating in a
discussion of origins.  I would hope that if the debate can be removed
from it's traditionally religious context more articles of a purely
informative nature would be submitted.  If there is any scientific
validity to creationism it should not have to be proven (or disproven)
in a religious context.  Also, the often interesting and informative
articles on aspects of evolutionary theory should not have to be
confined to a religious context.

For myself, I am equally interested in the views of both creationists
and evolutionists.  I think that to categorically and dogmatically assert
that creationism is religion and evolution is science may be hubristic.
I would hope for a context of discussion were the scientific merits of
both could be presented apart from religious dogma.  I would hope that
those who feel threatened by either position on this issue would refrain
from reactionary, hot headed flaming (there is a newsgroup for that) or
unsubscribe to the newsgroup.  Those who like to discuss the origins issue
from a religious standpoint (i.e. to quote the Bible or any other religious
book in support of their beliefs) should confine their discussion to
net.religion.

I would like to propose that the newsgroup be named "net.origins".  A
name which I feel is generic and general enough to invite discussion on
a broad number of topics related to the origin of anything.

How about it?

Paul Dubuc