coco@cbnewsl.att.com (felix.a.lugo) (10/17/90)
I would like to know what's going on with WB 2.0 for the Amiga 2000. Is it available yet? Will it become available this year? What's happening Commodore? What's taking you so long????? I've seen it running on Amiga 3000s, so why can't I run it on my 2000? Commodore, are you willingly delaying the release of WB 2.0 for lower model Amigas until A3000 sales increase? The WB 1.3 release is "ancient" by today's standard! Also, what's the scoop on UNIX SVR4? I've followed Commodore's line of computers for a very long time. My first computer was a VIC-20, followed by a C64, C128, A1000, and A2000. I've never owned a computer that didn't have the Commodore or Amiga logos in front. I really don't know how much longer this is going to last, though, with the new systems introduced by companies such as Apple and NeXT which out-perform even the new Amiga 3000, at comparable prices. Also, I don't understand Commodore's PR. Two weeks ago I learned of the new line of computers offered by Apple. This week I've seen at least five (5) different TV commercials showing them off. Ask me if I have seen a single commercial for the Amiga 3000??!! Is Commodore so "secure" that they can afford not to advertise their systems? I know I'll be getting tons and tons of replies for this post, but people, wake up and smell the coffee!!!! Commodore is losing ground at an astonishing rate! Take this post seriously, and not as another FLAME directed at Commodore. Very unhappy, Felix A. Lugo coco@ihlpy.att.com att!ihlpy!coco
duck@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ho Han Chyi Howard) (10/19/90)
In article <1990Oct17.161920.9749@cbnewsl.att.com>, coco@cbnewsl.att.com (felix.a.lugo) writes: |> |> I would like to know what's going on with WB 2.0 for the Amiga 2000. |> Is it available yet? Will it become available this year? What's |> happening Commodore? What's taking you so long????? |> I've seen it running on Amiga 3000s, so why can't I run it on my |> 2000? Commodore, are you willingly delaying the release of WB 2.0 |> for lower model Amigas until A3000 sales increase? |> The WB 1.3 release is "ancient" by today's standard! |> Also, what's the scoop on UNIX SVR4? Yeah, what's the deal with SVR4? What about the graphics card? |> |> I've followed Commodore's line of computers for a very long time. |> My first computer was a VIC-20, followed by a C64, C128, A1000, and |> A2000. I've never owned a computer that didn't have the Commodore |> or Amiga logos in front. I really don't know how much longer this |> is going to last, though, with the new systems introduced by companies |> such as Apple and NeXT which out-perform even the new Amiga 3000, |> at comparable prices. Yes the NeXTStation and NeXTDimension are sweet! |> |> Also, I don't understand Commodore's PR. Two weeks ago I learned of |> the new line of computers offered by Apple. This week I've seen |> at least five (5) different TV commercials showing them off. Ask |> me if I have seen a single commercial for the Amiga 3000??!! |> Is Commodore so "secure" that they can afford not to advertise their |> systems? I have to agree with him here. I understand the Commodore has a better(?) policy at keeping screts now. However personally I think that if C= are doing anything, they should keep users posted. ie "Yes! C= is not sleeping" kind of message. This way people out there won't be hanging in some kind of infinate loop testing if the Amiga is really worth their patience. I'm sorry if you think that the Amiga is going to go anywhere as it stands now. At least if I know that if Commodore's silence != inactivity then I'll hang in there abit more. (My arms are quite tierd of hanging! :-) |> |> I know I'll be getting tons and tons of replies for this post, but |> people, wake up and smell the coffee!!!! Commodore is losing |> ground at an astonishing rate! Take this post seriously, and not |> as another FLAME directed at Commodore. |> |> Very unhappy, |> Felix A. Lugo |> coco@ihlpy.att.com |> att!ihlpy!coco Not too happy myself, Howard Ho P.S. flames thru email please. P.P.S. I want SRV4 and 8-bit graphics on my table! ******************************************************************************* * * * Name: Ho Han Chyi Howard ******** * * Address: 1309 S. University Apt #1 *** ******* * * Ann Arbor, MI 48104 *** ***** * * Telephone: local (313)996-1875 (| o o |) * * remote 0-11-65-253-2503 | ^ | * * (Singpore.Equator.SE-Asia.World) \ _ / * * eMail: duck@caen.engin.umich.edu \ / * * 6VBN@ub.cc.umich.edu --- * * * *******************************************************************************
manes@vger.nsu.edu (10/19/90)
In article <1990Oct17.161920.9749@cbnewsl.att.com>, coco@cbnewsl.att.com (felix.a.lugo) writes: > I would like to know what's going on with WB 2.0 for the Amiga 2000. > Is it available yet? Will it become available this year? What's > happening Commodore? What's taking you so long????? I believe the reason it is taking so long is that it is not cooked yet. There are still things going on in the bug repair department, at least as far as I know. You would not want a buggy rom released for your 2000 would you? Remember, the 2000 can't boot kickstart directly. > I've seen it running on Amiga 3000s, so why can't I run it on my > 2000? Commodore, are you willingly delaying the release of WB 2.0 > for lower model Amigas until A3000 sales increase? I really don't think this is the case at all. It is simply difficult to absolutely *know* when a program is going to be complete. I would rather wait and have a less-buggy OS than to have it now and suffer nasty bugs. I will say that the newer versions of 2.0 look real solid. > or Amiga logos in front. I really don't know how much longer this > is going to last, though, with the new systems introduced by companies > such as Apple and NeXT which out-perform even the new Amiga 3000, > at comparable prices. I am not sure about this compariable prices. Certainly wings doesnt run on a NeXT! :-) > > Also, I don't understand Commodore's PR. Two weeks ago I learned of > the new line of computers offered by Apple. This week I've seen > at least five (5) different TV commercials showing them off. Ask > me if I have seen a single commercial for the Amiga 3000??!! Commodore is putting a lot of their advertising funds into magazines. I personally wish that they could afford a long term television ad campaign on the high-end computing powers of the Amiga. (NO MORE STEVIE!) > > Very unhappy, > Felix A. Lugo > coco@ihlpy.att.com > att!ihlpy!coco -mark= +--------+ ================================================== | \/ | Mark D. Manes "Mr. AmigaVision" | /\ \/ | manes@vger.nsu.edu | / | (804) 683-2532 "Make up your own mind! - AMIGA" +--------+ ==================================================
fhwri%CONNCOLL.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (10/19/90)
From amiga-relay-request@louie.udel.edu Thu Oct 18 22:31:37 1990 Received: from CUNYVM.BITNET for amiga-relay-request@louie.udel.edu with Fri, 19 Oct 90 02:31:35 GMT Received: from CUNYVM by CUNYVM.BITNET (Mailer R2.03B) with BSMTP id 414 18 Oct 90 07:56:49 EDT Received: from udel.edu by CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU (IBM VM SMTP R1.2.2MX) with T 18 Oct 90 07:56:46 EDT Received: from louie.udel.edu by louie.udel.edu id ab08883; 18 Oct 90 11 Received: from USENET by louie.udel.edu id aa08840; 18 Oct 90 7:37 EDT Received: from snow-white.ee.udel.edu by louie.udel.edu id aa08823; 18 Oct 90 7:36 EDT Received: from nigel.ee.udel.edu by snow-white.ee.udel.edu id aa08189; 18 Oct 90 11:33 GMT From: "felix.a.lugo" <coco@cbnewsl.att.com> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Unhappy Amiga Owner Keywords: Amiga, WB 2.0, Commodore, UNIX SVR4 Message-Id: <1990Oct17.161920.9749@cbnewsl.att.com> Date: 17 Oct 90 16:19:20 GMT Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories To: amiga-relay@udel.edu Sender: amiga-relay-request@udel.edu I would like to know what's going on with WB 2.0 for the Amiga 2 Is it available yet? Will it become available this year? What' happening Commodore? What's taking you so long????? I've seen it running on Amiga 3000s, so why can't I run it on my 2000? Commodore, are you willingly delaying the release of WB 2 for lower model Amigas until A3000 sales increase? The WB 1.3 release is "ancient" by today's standard! Also, what's the scoop on UNIX SVR4? I've followed Commodore's line of computers for a very long time My first computer was a VIC-20, followed by a C64, C128, A1000, A2000. I've never owned a computer that didn't have the Commodo or Amiga logos in front. I really don't know how much longer th is going to last, though, with the new systems introduced by com such as Apple and NeXT which out-perform even the new Amiga 3000 at comparable prices. Also, I don't understand Commodore's PR. Two weeks ago I learne the new line of computers offered by Apple. This week I've seen at least five (5) different TV commercials showing them off. As me if I have seen a single commercial for the Amiga 3000??!! Is Commodore so "secure" that they can afford not to advertise t systems? I know I'll be getting tons and tons of replies for this post, b people, wake up and smell the coffee!!!! Commodore is losing ground at an astonishing rate! Take this post seriously, and no as another FLAME directed at Commodore. Very unhappy, Felix A. Lugo coco@ihlpy.att.com att!ihlpy!coco The situation is that Kickstart 2.0 isn't quite nailed down. I work in an Amiga store, and we've gotten a second revision of KS 2.0 since the 3000 came out. It's still called a BETA version. The first version would crash while doing fills in DPaint! Be patient; it has to be PERFECT before it's locked into ROM. It took a LOT longer to get the relatively bug-free v1.2 out on the market... --rw fhwri@conncoll.bitnet