jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J. Eric Townsend) (10/16/90)
In article <1990Oct15.210438.27907@cbnewse.att.com> cwpjr@cbnewse.att.com (clyde.w.jr.phillips) writes: >In article <33336@nigel.ee.udel.edu>, S36666WB%ETSUACAD.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu (Brian Wright) writes: >> I have a peer that has been telling me about a new system to be coming >> out soon that runs OS/9. It has/or is going to have a windowing type inter- >> face. It will have a 256 color display at some fairly high resolution out >> of a total palette of 16 million colors. >There was a MM froont end for OS-9 for Industria;lProcess Control >Initially called RAVE. I don't know if this implements RAVE in a >box system or not but those OS-9 guys are sharp and RAVE is 2-4 years old... An OS-9 knowledgable friend of mine recently mentioned that there was now some sort of "standard" windowing interface for OS-9. Also, since OS-9 has been recently ported to the Int*l chip line (why?!?), you might start seeing a *lot* of new OS-9 stuff. Personally, I want OS-9 for my A2000. Any idea where I can get it? -- J. Eric Townsend Internet: jet@uh.edu Bitnet: jet@UHOU Systems Manager - University of Houston Dept. of Mathematics - (713) 749-2120 EastEnders list: eastender@karazm.math.uh.edu Skate UNIX(r)
spam@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Charles E. Watson) (10/16/90)
The new OS9 box is a 68k called the MM/1. The people who are putting it out are called Kenneth-Leigh Enterprizes. If you want specs and other info call 1(800)866-9084
newton@ils.nwu.edu (David Newton) (10/19/90)
+ The new OS9 box is a 68k called the MM/1. The people who are + putting it out are called Kenneth-Leigh Enterprizes. If you want + specs and other info call 1(800)866-9084 The MM/1 _I_ know about is from Interactive Media Systems... Maybe they changed their name. The phone number is correct. I _do_ wish they'd stop answering the phone, "Interactive Media Systems, home of the MM/1." After about 2-3 times it gets very annoying. Nice looking machine though (so far). -- David L. Newton | Work: (708) 491-4791 | VR is great!! I died in one- ILS, Room 327 | Home: (708) 332-2321 | (with virtual insurance, of 1890 Maple St. |------------------------| course) collected it, and am Evanston, IL 60201 | "Purveyors of fine AI" | now virtually happy. I think.
skeppeljones@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Stephen Keppel-Jones) (10/20/90)
Info about the MM/1 and the TC070... Both are OS-9/68000 (OS-k) machines that use the same two major chips as do the CD-I computeres. These are the Signetics 68070cpu and 66470vsc. The 68070 is a MC68000 compatible (though slower) cpu with build in DMA, UART, MMU, and IIC interface. It runs a 15MHz. The 66470 is a Video System Controller that supports resolution of up to 720x420 with N.Americal 60Hz monitors. (The double verticle resolution is via interlace. Though double scan rate is supported, I don't know if it has been implemented.) The colors available are 16 on resolutions of 640/720 and are 256 on 320/360 dots per line. The MM/1 implements a palette controller so these 16/256 colors can be chosen out of 16 million (2**24) colors. I don't know about the Tomcat (TC070). The MM/1 comes with 1Meg RAM, the TC070 with 1.5Meg RAM, both with shared access between the CPU and VSC. The MM/1 uses a standatd XT keyboard while the TC070 uses and AT keyboard. Both also have DMA floppy controllers capable of handling normal and HD (1.2/1.44 Meg) drives. I should also mention powered serial mice ports and a "supposed" standard of 3-button mice. A separate board for the MM/1 includes such thigs as DMS SCSI, a couple more serial ports (2 on main board), another parallel port (1 on main board), and DMA stereo 8-bit sound (main board also has 1-bit PC style sound). This separate board also allows mem expansion of up to 9Meg more of dedicated cpu RAM. Once this additional 2/8Meg of RAM is added, the VSC thes uses the other 1Meg exclusively. This makes for about another 50% increase in speed over the shared RAM configuration. These two cards can be plugged directly into one another, or a 32/16 bit bus can be purchased separately which allows for further expansion. The IIC bus is also available for networking of up to 128 MM/1's with no additional hardware. The TC070 is a has mono 8-bit sound, 2 serial ports and 1 parallel port. The SCSI controllor is built onto this board, but mem expansion must be over the included K-Bus. Up to 14Meg can be added. I have no idea how accessing memory over the bus affects access times. Both machines come with OS-9/68000, Basic09, and C. The MM/1 also includes (or so it is said) some additional software. Kenneth-Leigh (MM/1 marketter) also announced the porting of MicroSoft Quick Basic which will bring many PC programs to the MM/1. Of course, Quick Basic will also be available to us users/programmers. They also have an "Early Deveopers Plan" which can get 20% off a full system. ----- Well, that is a quick info note. Some of the numbers about io port counts might be off by one or two, but the info here should be mostly correct. Hope all that helps. I'll try to answer any questions if you have them... After midterms. Brian White (using a friends unix account) -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~T~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Steve Keppel-Jones | Clarke's Second Law: The only way to skeppeljones@watdragon.waterloo.edu | discover the limits of the possible is or steve@watcsc | to go beyond them into the impossible.
skeppeljones@watdragon.waterloo.edu (Stephen Keppel-Jones) (10/21/90)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: Vague OS-9 mutterings (was Re: New computer? Summary: Expires: References: <38306@ut-emx.uucp> Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: University of Waterloo Keywords: MM/1 Info about the MM/1 and the TC070... Both are OS-9/68000 (OS-k) machines that use the same two major chips as do the CD-I computeres. These are the Signetics 68070cpu and 66470vsc. The 68070 is a MC68000 compatible (though slower) cpu with build in DMA, UART, MMU, and IIC interface. It runs a 15MHz. The 66470 is a Video System Controller that supports resolution of up to 720x420 with N.Americal 60Hz monitors. (The double verticle resolution is via interlace. Though double scan rate is supported, I don't know if it has been implemented.) The colors available are 16 on resolutions of 640/720 and are 256 on 320/360 dots per line. The MM/1 implements a palette controller so these 16/256 colors can be chosen out of 16 million (2**24) colors. I don't know about the Tomcat (TC070). The MM/1 comes with 1Meg RAM, the TC070 with 1.5Meg RAM, both with shared access between the CPU and VSC. The MM/1 uses a standatd XT keyboard while the TC070 uses and AT keyboard. Both also have DMA floppy controllers capable of handling normal and HD (1.2/1.44 Meg) drives. I should also mention powered serial mice ports and a "supposed" standard of 3-button mice. A separate board for the MM/1 includes such thigs as DMS SCSI, a couple more serial ports (2 on main board), another parallel port (1 on main board), and DMA stereo 8-bit sound (main board also has 1-bit PC style sound). This separate board also allows mem expansion of up to 9Meg more of dedicated cpu RAM. Once this additional 2/8Meg of RAM is added, the VSC thes uses the other 1Meg exclusively. This makes for about another 50% increase in speed over the shared RAM configuration. These two cards can be plugged directly into one another, or a 32/16 bit bus can be purchased separately which allows for further expansion. The IIC bus is also available for networking of up to 128 MM/1's with no additional hardware. The TC070 is a has mono 8-bit sound, 2 serial ports and 1 parallel port. The SCSI controllor is built onto this board, but mem expansion must be over the included K-Bus. Up to 14Meg can be added. I have no idea how accessing memory over the bus affects access times. Both machines come with OS-9/68000, Basic09, and C. The MM/1 also includes (or so it is said) some additional software. Kenneth-Leigh (MM/1 marketter) also announced the porting of MicroSoft Quick Basic which will bring many PC programs to the MM/1. Of course, Quick Basic will also be available to us users/programmers. They also have an "Early Deveopers Plan" which can get 20% off a full system. ----- Well, that is a quick info note. Some of the numbers about io port counts might be off by one or two, but the info here should be mostly correct. Hope all that helps. I'll try to answer any questions if you have them... After midterms. Brian White (using a friends unix account) -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~T~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Steve Keppel-Jones | Clarke's Second Law: The only way to skeppeljones@watdragon.waterloo.edu | discover the limits of the possible is or steve@watcsc | to go beyond them into the impossible.
timha@microsoft.UUCP (Tim HARRIS) (10/22/90)
In article <1990Oct16.062145.21404@lavaca.uh.edu> jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J. Eric Townsend) writes: >In article <1990Oct15.210438.27907@cbnewse.att.com> cwpjr@cbnewse.att.com (clyde.w.jr.phillips) writes: >>In article <33336@nigel.ee.udel.edu>, S36666WB%ETSUACAD.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu (Brian Wright) writes: >>> I have a peer that has been telling me about a new system to be coming >>> out soon that runs OS/9. It has/or is going to have a windowing type inter- >>> face. It will have a 256 color display at some fairly high resolution out >>> of a total palette of 16 million colors. > >>There was a MM froont end for OS-9 for Industria;lProcess Control >>Initially called RAVE. I don't know if this implements RAVE in a >>box system or not but those OS-9 guys are sharp and RAVE is 2-4 years old... > RAVE is a graphics user interface for OS-9 and is not really a windowing interface in the likes of X-Windows, MS Windows, AmigaDOS or the MacOS. RAVE gives the programmer the capability to do some overlapping windows for dialog boxes or pop-up/pull-down menus but does not directly support multi-tasking/overlapping windows. You do get to do applications which run on multiple screens and have the ability to do image based controls, menus and indicators which is all you need for a process control interface. Tim Harris