ernie@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us (Ernest J. Gainey III) (10/07/90)
Hello all,
I've asked my local dealer if he had any of these in stock, and well
he said no but would order me one. He mentioned having the 14Mhz
68000, but they couldn't install it. (I would have to, and I really
dont want to have to hack up my 500 like that on my own...)
What I would like to know is... does anyone have a "list" of programs
that break on the 68010? Also, I remember there was a patch to prevent
the crashing caused by "bad" programmers using the MOVE <SR> opcode.
Thanks all... :)
--
Ernest J. Gainey III //\\ ernie@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us
The Amiga Aquarium \\ //==\\ Gainey03@Snybufva.Bitnet
(716)/837-1699 \\/ \\MIGA!jeremym@brahms.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) (10/07/90)
In article <ernie.5192@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us> ernie@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us (Ernest J. Gainey III) writes: > What I would like to know is... does anyone have a "list" of programs > that break on the 68010? Also, I remember there was a patch to prevent > the crashing caused by "bad" programmers using the MOVE <SR> opcode. Well... dont try anything like Fa-18 ... But, the good news it... dump the 68010! It's worthless compared to the 14mHz hack. Sure... if you cant install it yourself... get someone who can! Pay them 50$ for the hack job. Save about 300$ and pleanty of 60810 blues. But... if you *DO* decide to 68010 it... there are currently three (almost identical) programs that hack into the 680x0 opcodes and fix the div by 0 error or whatever that code is. Just chuck it in your startup-sequence under the setpatch and whamo! no problemo... but... what if you're playing a non-wb thing. Your stuck. But, if you do the 14mzh hack, you've got the best of THREE worlds. 1_ 14 mzh if ya want it for almost anything 2_ no crash like 68010 3_ with the flick of a switch you're back to being a stock 500! So - do the right thing... DO THE HACK! contact?: jeremym@brahms.udel.edu <-me ------------------------------------------------------------------------ my opinions are not necessarily my opinions - jeremym ------------------------------------------------------------------------
ernie@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us (Ernest J. Gainey III) (10/07/90)
>In article <14382@brahms.udel.edu> jeremym@brahms.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) writes: >In article <ernie.5192@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us> ernie@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us (Ernest J. Gainey III) writes: >Well... dont try anything like Fa-18 ... >But, the good news it... dump the 68010! It's worthless >compared to the 14mHz hack. Sure... if you cant >install it yourself... get someone who can! Pay them 50$ >for the hack job. Save about 300$ and pleanty of 60810 blues. > >But... if you *DO* decide to 68010 it... there are currently >three (almost identical) programs that hack into the 680x0 >opcodes and fix the div by 0 error or whatever that code is. > >Just chuck it in your startup-sequence under the setpatch >and whamo! no problemo... but... what if you're playing >a non-wb thing. Your stuck. But, if you do the 14mzh hack, >you've got the best of THREE worlds. > >1_ 14 mzh if ya want it for almost anything >2_ no crash like 68010 >3_ with the flick of a switch you're back to being a stock 500! > >So - do the right thing... DO THE HACK! > >contact?: jeremym@brahms.udel.edu <-me > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ >my opinions are not necessarily my opinions - jeremym >------------------------------------------------------------------------ Hmm... But I've heard so many horror stories about DF0: not working... after installing the hack... Maybe I'll go back to my dealer and talk to him a bit more... and maybe get the 14Mhz 68000... Its just he scares me sometimes with this little line he gives me from some instructions one company gave on installing their chips: Be careful to install the chip correctly, dont break the glass, or put it in backwards, cause you will let the "blue smoke" out, and it wont work anymore... -- Ernest J. Gainey III //\\ ernie@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us The Amiga Aquarium \\ //==\\ Gainey03@Snybufva.Bitnet (716)/837-1699 \\/ \\MIGA!
sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) (10/10/90)
ernie@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us (Ernest J. Gainey III) writes: | Its just he scares me sometimes with this little line he gives me | from some instructions one company gave on installing their chips: | Be careful to install the chip correctly, dont break the glass, or put | it in backwards, cause you will let the "blue smoke" out, and it wont | work anymore... Sheesh, it's just a little electronics humor. It comes from the fact that when you burn up an item, it smokes, so it must be letting the smoke out that breaks it, right? :-) -- John Sparks |D.I.S.K. Public Access Unix System| Multi-User Games, Email sparks@corpane.UUCP |PH: (502) 968-DISK 24Hrs/2400BPS | Usenet, Chatting, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|7 line Multi-User system. | Downloads & more. A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of----Ogden Nash
phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au (Phil Kernick) (10/12/90)
jeremym@brahms.udel.edu (Jeremy A Moskowitz) writes: >In article <ernie.5192@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us> ernie@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us (Ernest J. Gainey III) writes: >> What I would like to know is... does anyone have a "list" of programs >> that break on the 68010? Also, I remember there was a patch to prevent >> the crashing caused by "bad" programmers using the MOVE <SR> opcode. >Well... dont try anything like Fa-18 ... Why? I have an A1000 2MB RAM 68010, and I have found almost nothing that breaks with the 010, and I have been using it for 18 months!! I also don't have anything in the startup-sequence to patch the MOVE SR,<ea> to MOVE CCR,<ea>! A few games don't work at all, notibly F29 Retaliator, but almost everything else does - including heavily copy protected games like Hard Drivin' !! Phil. -- Phil Kernick EMail: phil@adam.adelaide.edu.au Departmental Engineer Phone: +618 228 5914 Dept. of Psychology Fax: +618 224 0464 University of Adelaide Mail: GPO Box 498 Adelaide SA 5001
ernie@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us (Ernest J. Gainey III) (10/14/90)
>In article <3379@corpane.UUCP> sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes: >ernie@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us (Ernest J. Gainey III) writes: >| Be careful to install the chip correctly, dont break the glass, or put >| it in backwards, cause you will let the "blue smoke" out, and it wont >| work anymore... > >Sheesh, it's just a little electronics humor. It comes from the fact that >when you burn up an item, it smokes, so it must be letting the smoke out that >breaks it, right? :-) John, I know.. :-) Though he did show me an instruction manual... that he got that line from, i think it was a plug in board for a 500, that gave the user 2 parallel ports... at the dealership, they run DNet (or was it parnet?) ... they have a 2000 running a bbs (Cnet YECK) and a 500 at the desk to handle orders, with some database program (forget which one...)... its an interesting set up... etc... I think I had asked him if there were any multi-serial boards yet for the 500... multi-parallel was best he could show me.. :( -- Ernest J. Gainey III //\\ ernie@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us The Amiga Aquarium \\ //==\\ Gainey03@Snybufva.Bitnet (716)/837-1699 \\/ \\MIGA!
hclausen@adspdk.UUCP (Henrik Clausen) (10/16/90)
In article <3379@corpane.UUCP>, John Sparks writes: > ernie@aquarium.buffalo.ny.us (Ernest J. Gainey III) writes: > | Be careful to install the chip correctly, dont break the glass, or put > | it in backwards, cause you will let the "blue smoke" out, and it wont > | work anymore... > > Sheesh, it's just a little electronics humor. It comes from the fact that > when you burn up an item, it smokes, so it must be letting the smoke out that > breaks it, right? :-) Wrong :-) It's the smoke that makes chips work in the first place. When you let it out, it stops working... -Henrik | Henrik Clausen, Graffiti Data (Fido: 2:230/22.33) | | ...{pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmehq!adspdk!hclausen | \__"Do not accept the heart that is the slave to reason" - Qawwali trad__/
sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) (10/23/90)
|In article <3379@corpane.UUCP>, I wrote: |> when you burn up an item, it smokes, so it must be letting the smoke out that |> breaks it, right? :-) hclausen@adspdk.UUCP (Henrik Clausen) writes: | Wrong :-) It's the smoke that makes chips work in the first place. | When you let it out, it stops working... Er, Isn't that what I just said? -- John Sparks |D.I.S.K. Public Access Unix System| Multi-User Games, Email sparks@corpane.UUCP |PH: (502) 968-DISK 24Hrs/2400BPS | Usenet, Chatting, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|7 line Multi-User system. | Downloads & more. A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of----Ogden Nash