BARRETT@owl.ecil.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) (10/17/90)
It looks like most of my arguements about the New MACs have been beaten
into the ground, which is actually what I hoped would happened. I would
have been worried if nobody had been able to disprove my arguements.
Here's a little food for thought. From the Apple stuff I saw, the
hardware IIe emulation for the LC takes over the machine, and does not
allow multitasking the way an Amiga BridgeCard does. This is one fault
I'd like to see exploited. How's about somebody getting that old
PD Apple II emulator working, and enhancing it for the IIe? The ROMs
would be a problem, but that might be taken care of the way that
the the developer of the A64 emulator took care of them: supply a
program to put the ROMs on disk from a IIe.
Get the Apple IIe emulator working, make sure it multitasks well,
and you could have a product to allow Amigas to replace the LC.
Some time ago, I exchanged messages through e-mail with someone
who knows quite a bit about the status of the old Apple II market.
He said that most Apple II owners feel abandoned by Apple, because
Apple has been pursuing the high-end markets for so long and totally
ignoring them. He also said that most of these old Apple II owners
would much rather buy an Amiga than an IBM or MAC, for various
reasons.
Apparently, the MAC LC, with its IIe emulation hardware available,
is an attempt to patch things up with the old Apple II owners, and
get them to buy MACs. Apple is very vulnerable here, because even
with a MAC that is IIe-compatible, many of these owners probably
still feel put off by Apple for the many years that they've been
ignored. If a software Apple IIe emulator were available for the
Amiga, it would make it that much easier to get some of these people
to buy Amigas instead of the MAC LC.
-MB-farrier@Apple.COM (Cary Farrier) (10/17/90)
In article <33724@nigel.ee.udel.edu> BARRETT@owl.ecil.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) writes: > Apparently, the MAC LC, with its IIe emulation hardware available, >is an attempt to patch things up with the old Apple II owners, and >get them to buy MACs. [...] Not really. Apple's former hold in the educational market is because of the IIe, and the IIe emulation board (which occupies the only slot available in the LC) is an attempt to pave the way for entering the Macs into the school system. > -MB- -- +---------------------------------------+---------------------------------+ | Cary Farrier | Internet : farrier@apple.com | | Apple II Systems Software Engineering | UUCP : apple!farrier | | Apple Computer, Inc. | Fax : (408) 974-1704 | | 20525 Mariani Ave. | AppleLink : FARRIER | | Cupertino, CA 95014 | or farrier%applelink@apple.com | +---------------------------------------+---------------------------------+
rms@gorf.UUCP (Roger M. Shimada) (10/20/90)
In article <45729@apple.Apple.COM> farrier@Apple.COM (Cary Farrier) writes: >In article <33724@nigel.ee.udel.edu> BARRETT@owl.ecil.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) writes: >> Apparently, the MAC LC, with its IIe emulation hardware available, >>is an attempt to patch things up with the old Apple II owners, and >>get them to buy MACs. [...] > > Not really. Apple's former hold in the educational market is >because of the IIe, and the IIe emulation board (which occupies the only >slot available in the LC) is an attempt to pave the way for entering >the Macs into the school system. > >| Cary Farrier | Internet : farrier@apple.com | Indeed. The Apple //gs really never had much to stand on, and is a definitive example of too little too late. (Schools still purchase many //es, one of the major reasons being cost-effectiveness.) It was wise (inevitable?) of Apple to create //e emulation for the Mac. I see it as a move to ensure Apple's dominance in the K-12 school market for the forseeable future. It's also kinda a pity, as I believe that hardware-wise that the Amiga fits the needs of that market very well. I guess C-A can give up any hope of seriously breaking in to the K-12 school market. P.S. Informed sources tell me that the //e emulation is excellent. Good work, people. (Hi PRW!) -- Roger M. Shimada rms@gorf.sialis.com -or- rms@gorf.mn.org [Whichever one might work for you! :-(]
dlt@locus.com (Dan Taylor) (10/23/90)
Just as a question, since I haven't finished my A1000 - ZorroII chassis, yet (the A2058 works, but I'm repackaging into a mini-tower). Has anyone run Tandy's AppleII emulator with a BridgeBoard? By the way, has anyone run an InBoard (Intel's '386 for PC/XT's), now available for $500 with 1 Megabyte of RAM, with the 8088 BridgeBoard? I remember that one of the magazines tested some '386 upgrade a couple of years back that worked. A $500 BridgeBoard + a $500 InBoard makes a '286 BridgeBoard sort of redundant, and gives you something useful to do with the XT (only) slot in an A2XXX. -- * Dan Taylor * The opinions expressed are my own, and in no way * * dlt@locus.com * reflect those of Locus Computing Corporation. *
cleland@sdbio2.ucsd.edu (Thomas Cleland) (10/24/90)
In article <33724@nigel.ee.udel.edu> BARRETT@owl.ecil.iastate.edu (Marc Barrett) writes: > >ignoring them. He also said that most of these old Apple II owners >would much rather buy an Amiga than an IBM or MAC, for various >reasons. > I read a rumor that Apple has *one* programmer working on Apple II stuff now --- mostly GS. As of about two years or so ago, firsthand report from my old employer who knew them, there were nine people working on the Apple II line. Seven of them owned Amigas.