[comp.sys.amiga] 1950 monitor problems

friest@elmendorf-ac2sman.af.mil (TIM FRIEST) (09/22/90)

I am having problems with my 1950 monitor.  When I first turn it on and
it is cold, it wavers (vertical lines wavering horizontally).  The dealer
demo at my local dealer also does this (it is worse than mine actually).
I've only noticed this problem on the (older?) 1950 monitors with a single
faceplate.  The newer 1950s with the darker front around the screen don't
seem to have this problem.

Has anyone else seen this problem and fixed it?  What is CBMs stand on it?
Should I send my monitor in for warranty work (it isn't really that big
of a problem right now, but it has gotten worse from when I first got it
so I figure I should find out before the warranty runs out).

Thanks for any advise...

perry@madnix.UUCP (Perry Kivolowitz) (09/28/90)

In article <31203@nigel.ee.udel.edu> friest@elmendorf-ac2sman.af.mil (TIM FRIEST) writes:
>I am having problems with my 1950 monitor.  When I first turn it on and
>it is cold, it wavers (vertical lines wavering horizontally).  The dealer
>demo at my local dealer also does this (it is worse than mine actually).
>I've only noticed this problem on the (older?) 1950 monitors with a single
>faceplate.  The newer 1950s with the darker front around the screen don't
>seem to have this problem.

I made the mistake of buying two A1950's before I had ever used one for an
extended period. Both monitors waver horizontally very slightly - just enough
to give the user headaches and nausea. No amount of horizontal hold tweaking
helps. These monitors suck.

My advice (to the buyer) look elsewhere for a better quality monitor.
My advice (to CBM engineering) stop going for the lowest price exclusively
all the time. Especially for the A3000, the A1950 makes the computer look bad
and has made me ill.

pk


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lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (09/28/90)

In <1576@madnix.UUCP>, perry@madnix.UUCP (Perry Kivolowitz) writes:
>In article <31203@nigel.ee.udel.edu> friest@elmendorf-ac2sman.af.mil (TIM FRIEST) writes:
>>I am having problems with my 1950 monitor.  When I first turn it on and
>>it is cold, it wavers (vertical lines wavering horizontally).  The dealer
>>demo at my local dealer also does this (it is worse than mine actually).
>>I've only noticed this problem on the (older?) 1950 monitors with a single
>>faceplate.  The newer 1950s with the darker front around the screen don't
>>seem to have this problem.
>
>I made the mistake of buying two A1950's before I had ever used one for an
>extended period. Both monitors waver horizontally very slightly - just enough
>to give the user headaches and nausea. No amount of horizontal hold tweaking
>helps. These monitors suck.
>
>My advice (to the buyer) look elsewhere for a better quality monitor.
>My advice (to CBM engineering) stop going for the lowest price exclusively
>all the time. Especially for the A3000, the A1950 makes the computer look bad
>and has made me ill.

You aren't running them in close proximity to each other (or to other monitors)
are you Perry? In my experience, the most common cause of horizontal waver is
that another monitor is nearby, and the two are interfering with one another.

-larry

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yorkw@stable.ecn.purdue.edu (Willis F York) (09/30/90)

>>>I am having problems with my 1950 monitor.  When I first turn it on and
>>>it is cold, it wavers (vertical lines wavering horizontally).  The dealer
>>>demo at my local dealer also does this (it is worse than mine actually).

>You aren't running them in close proximity to each other (or to other monitors)
>are you Perry? In my experience, the most common cause of horizontal waver is
>that another monitor is nearby, and the two are interfering with one another.

I have Noticed that ANY electricial "device" can cause waves, 
I have a Small fan next to my machine and if it gets too close one can get
nausua REAL fast, a Radio, Modem, or even Powersupply can cause the 
same problems.

Could be interfreence from ya machine, (Do you have a 2000 with LOTS of cards)
I hear that too many cards can cause interfreance.

Try a metal plate on top of ya Machine, (Like I*M's have built in, their cases
are metal, and cheap Clones use thinner metal and have similar Probs)
C-ya.
.
Hay i actually ANSWERED a question for once... Wow.
:wq

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amc4919@cec2.wustl.edu (Adam M. Costello) (10/02/90)

When I first got my Amiga 3000 and 1950 monitor, I noticed that the picture was
not always rock solid.  The problem depended on how long the system had been
on, which video mode I was in, and whether images were being moved on the
screen.  After much testing, I determined that these problems had nothing to do
with the monitor itself, but rather with A3000!  I called my dealer, and he
told me to adjust the fine tuning screw next to the display enhancer switch on
the back of the A3000.  This screw is documented in the small book that came
with the A3000, but I hadn't gotten to it yet.  The perfect adjustment varies
according to how long the computer has been running and what video mode I'm in,
but I can always get a rock solid screen by fiddling with that screw.  I don't
know whether the problems that others have been having are the same ones, but
for those who haven't tried adjusting the screw, try it!

Note to the designers: it should have been a knob, not a screw!  I'm thinking
about hacking in a knob myself (near the front of the computer).
AMC

vervalin@AUSTIN.LOCKHEED.COM (Paul Vervalin) (10/25/90)

I have read several postings here that have mentioned problems with the
1950 monitor for the A3000.  Since I am buying my A3000 through the education
discount program I'm stuck with the 1950 (i.e. I can't make my own monitor
choice).  So, the question is, is this jitter thing a really serious problem
or is it kind of rare?  Like are my chances 50/50?  I know there is know
certain answer but I'd like to know what to expect if at all possible.  
Thanks for any and all replies (E-Mail or otherwise).

                              vervalin@austin.lockheed.com