[comp.sys.amiga] AmigaVision Stacks

joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph P. Hillenburg) (10/21/90)

Hello.

I got AmigaVision and I have been working on a graphic interface to 
Lattice. It's fairly simple, except it will require ARexx to funish, 
which I don't have. (and don't plan on buying until I get OS 2.0) but I 
was wondering if anyone else out there has any nice AV stacks they'd like 
to share with the Amiga community. Also, how hard would it be to write a 
program that compiles AV stacks to from executables that we could just 
run? This would be a helpful thing for the next major AV release.

-Joseph Hillenburg

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manes@vger.nsu.edu (10/22/90)

In article <RqRcR1w163w@valnet>, joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph P. Hillenburg) writes:
> Hello.
> 
> I got AmigaVision and I have been working on a graphic interface to 
> Lattice. It's fairly simple, except it will require ARexx to funish, 

I am not sure you will find all the AREXX support that you need to do this,
however I am interested in your efforts here.

> which I don't have. (and don't plan on buying until I get OS 2.0) but I 
> was wondering if anyone else out there has any nice AV stacks they'd like 
> to share with the Amiga community. Also, how hard would it be to write a 
> program that compiles AV stacks to from executables that we could just 
> run? This would be a helpful thing for the next major AV release.

Currently AmigaVision is required to execute all AmigaVision flows.  

FYI:  You should refer to AmigaVision 'programs' as flows rather than
      'stacks' as 'stacks' implies 'hypercard' type of program, which
      AmigaVision is not (thanfully?).

> 
> -Joseph Hillenburg
> 
> UUCP: ...iuvax!valnet!joseph
> ARPA: valnet!joseph@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu
> INET: joseph@valnet.UUCP

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amhartma@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Andy Hartman - AmigaMan) (10/23/90)

In article <81.2722b9c3@vger.nsu.edu> manes@vger.nsu.edu writes:

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>Currently AmigaVision is required to execute all AmigaVision flows.  

	_FROM THE AMIGAVISION BOOK_ (with permision?!?  Right...)

"Once you have completed a presentation or a course, the material can be
prepared for use by others with the RUNTIME feature.  This feature helps you
to create the complete disks that you will distribute to end users."

Maybe I'm interpreting this wrong, but it sounds to me like you can create
a disk that will automatically run your "program", "stack", "flow" (whatever)
upon boot.

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manes@vger.nsu.edu (10/23/90)

In article <66639@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>, amhartma@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Andy Hartman - AmigaMan) writes:
> In article <81.2722b9c3@vger.nsu.edu> manes@vger.nsu.edu writes:
> 
> [...stuff deleted...]
> 
>>Currently AmigaVision is required to execute all AmigaVision flows.  
> 
> 	_FROM THE AMIGAVISION BOOK_ (with permision?!?  Right...)
> 
> "Once you have completed a presentation or a course, the material can be
> prepared for use by others with the RUNTIME feature.  This feature helps you
> to create the complete disks that you will distribute to end users."

Well, it does make runtime disks.  

Let me explain.

Most people create there individual flows on their harddisk.  Having files
from this directory and that directory.  AmigaVision will (using the runtime
option) create a set of floppies with all that you need to execute a flow
from a floppy(s).  (It will not move fonts, nor the AmigaVision Executable 
however)

AmigaVision *is* REQUIRED to run the flow.

> 
> Maybe I'm interpreting this wrong, but it sounds to me like you can create
> a disk that will automatically run your "program", "stack", "flow" (whatever)
> upon boot.

I had the same misinterpetation, until I played with it a bit more.

> 
>> -mark=
> 
> AMH
> * Andy Hartman       | I'd deny half of this crap anyway!| "Somedays, you just
> * Indiana University |   amhartma@silver.ucs.indiana.edu |  can't get rid of a
> *    //	 Amiga Man   |   AMHARTMA@rose.ucs.indiana.edu   |  bomb!" 
> *  \X/	 At Large!   |        or just "Hey putz!"        | - Batman (original)

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 | \/     |   Mark D. Manes                    "Mr. AmigaVision" 
 | /\  \/ |   manes@vger.nsu.edu                                        
 |     /  |   (804) 683-2532    "Make up your own mind! - AMIGA"
 +--------+   ==================================================
                     

bobl@pro-graphics.cts.com (System Administrator) (10/25/90)

In-Reply-To: message from joseph@valnet.UUCP

Hmm..maybe we can stay away from the Hypercard metaphor "stacks" and call them
the more logical name of "modules".  AmigaVision isn't like HyperCard and it
probably shouldn't be associated with it even remotely.

Just a thought.

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karl@cbmvax.commodore.com (Karl Herrman - CATS) (10/27/90)

In article <66639@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> amhartma@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Andy Hartman - AmigaMan) writes:
>In article <81.2722b9c3@vger.nsu.edu> manes@vger.nsu.edu writes:
>
>[...stuff deleted...]
>
>>Currently AmigaVision is required to execute all AmigaVision flows.  
>
>	_FROM THE AMIGAVISION BOOK_ (with permision?!?  Right...)

Not Really.
 
>"Once you have completed a presentation or a course, the material can be
>prepared for use by others with the RUNTIME feature.  This feature helps you
>to create the complete disks that you will distribute to end users."
>
>Maybe I'm interpreting this wrong, but it sounds to me like you can create
>a disk that will automatically run your "program", "stack", "flow" (whatever)
>upon boot.
>
AmigaVision _flows_ require the AmigaVision program to be present to run.  You
can load the flow by double-clicking on its icon and it will load the flow and
AmigaVision and then present the flow.  Not all of AmigaVision is loaded to
present a flow so memory isn't as tight.

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>
>AMH
>* Andy Hartman       | I'd deny half of this crap anyway!| "Somedays, you just
>* Indiana University |   amhartma@silver.ucs.indiana.edu |  can't get rid of a
>*    //	 Amiga Man   |   AMHARTMA@rose.ucs.indiana.edu   |  bomb!" 
>*  \X/	 At Large!   |        or just "Hey putz!"        | - Batman (original)


Karl Herrmann
Software Specialist
CATS