[comp.sys.amiga] Whence CDTV? New video chips from Intel

thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) (11/03/90)

Whence CDTV?  Is another "window of opportunity" going to be lost?  Read on.
The following article appeared on the front page of the San Francisco Chronicle
BUSINESS section, Friday, 2-Nov-1990:

``		 NEW CHIPS MAKE VIDEO-EDITING EASIER

	By Ken Stegmann and Don Clark, Chronicle Staff Writers

Intel Corp., The Santa Clara-based chipmaker, will unveil on Monday a pair
of chips that will make it easier and less expensive for personal computer
users to view and edit full-motion video images.

Sitting at a PC, the user will be able to assemble a training video or sales
presentation from video clips or animation, and the finished product could
be viewed on other computer screens.

Intel is not the first company to produce such chips.  The release of its
so-called digital-video-interactive -- or DVI -- chips comes at a time when
increasing numbers of chipmakers are producing comparable products.

Video consumes vast amounts of computer memory -- an obstacle that until
recently prevented people from using personal computers to produce videos
or animations.  Technologies such as DVI compress the images so they take
up less memory.

Intel acquired DVI technology for $40 million from General Electric Co. in
1988, and has since been collaborating with IBM Corp.  But smaller competitors
have beaten Intel to market with their own video-compression chips, and
computer makers have begun to adopt their products.

C-Cube Microsystems of San Jose released its video-compression chip last year.
LSI Logic Corp. of Milpitas introduced a set of video chips in September, and
French electronics conglomerate SGS Thomsen is expected to unveil a line of
video chips next week.

Intel has been selling a $2,000 circuit board for personal computers that
incorporates DVI technology.  But users have had to add the board to a $3,000
computer to get a system that's capable of working with video.

Now, sources say, Intel has miniaturized the circuit-board technology to make
it available on two chips.  These can be built into personal computers as
standard equipment, eliminating the need for the expensive add-ons.

An intel spokeswoman confirmed that the company has scheduled an announcement
for Monday concerning chips, but she wouldn't go into more detail.

"This is a relatively small part of the business for Intel, but it's
important," said analyst Lawrence Borgman of Dillon Read & Co. in New York.
"The PC of the future is going to have full-motion video and Intel has to
be there."

Computers with video capabilities may become a multibillion-dollar market
in this decade.  But "it is still an area that absorbs money and hasn't
returned much on the investment," said analyst Millard Phelps of Hambrecht
& Quist Inc. in San Francisco.

Intel and IBM, despite their huge marketing clout, have failed to convince
many computer makers that DVI is the best technology for compressing data.
Other makers of computers and semiconductors have favored different methods
-- or standards -- for data compression.  Some experts have likened this to
the struggle between VHS and Beta formats for videotape. And some analysts
have suggested that DVI may go the way of Beta.

"DVI is a dead end," said Brian Halla, vice president of LSI's microprocessor
group and a former Intel executive.

Intel is expected to produce chips that incorporate competing standards as
well as its original format.  But Halla believes that won't happen for two
years.

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Thad Floryan [ thad@cup.portal.com (OR) ..!sun!portal!cup.portal.com!thad ]

ESDYKE@MTUS5.BITNET (Erick Dyke) (11/05/90)

CDTV was listed in this weeks Sports Illustrated (The one with Bill Laimbeer)
in the Whats New section.  There was a picture,  a release date (Before
X-Mas), a retail price ($1000), and some programs that will be available.
(Jack Nicks Interactive Golf Tutor.)

Erick

seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) (11/09/90)

In-Reply-To: message from thad@cup.portal.com

 
I don't really know what this has to do with CDTV, since you're talking about
two different technologies here.  CDTV is CD based, and has full-motion video
off of a disk (I know only half screen, but C= has said they're working on
full screen...CDI still doesn't really have it either).  The DVI is a chipset
that reads compressed video off of your HD, WORM, etc.
 
BTW, have any of you ever seen a DVI screen?  The companies running FMVideo
off their hard disks for the Amiga had a nicer picture.  But then I guess
"it's not how a walzing bear waltzes, but that it waltzes at all."
 
Sean
 
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xrtnt@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Nigel Tzeng) (11/09/90)

In article <5522@crash.cts.com>, seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) writes...
^In-Reply-To: message from thad@cup.portal.com
^ 
^ 
^I don't really know what this has to do with CDTV, since you're talking about
^two different technologies here.  CDTV is CD based, and has full-motion video
^off of a disk (I know only half screen, but C= has said they're working on
^full screen...CDI still doesn't really have it either).  The DVI is a chipset
^that reads compressed video off of your HD, WORM, etc.
^ 
^BTW, have any of you ever seen a DVI screen?  The companies running FMVideo
^off their hard disks for the Amiga had a nicer picture.  But then I guess
^"it's not how a walzing bear waltzes, but that it waltzes at all."
^ 
^Sean

Somewhat germane to this discussion:

I caught the tail end of a George Washington University course on multimedia. 
There was a demo of a very impressive MM package that runs on a couple of
platforms (in this particular instance a PS2).  Having only cought a little bit
of the class (broadcast on cable for some odd reason) I didn't catch the name
or the company.  Anyone know?  I uses the std laser disk rather than CDI stuff
(given the length of the presentation this is not surprising).

They did cover the term DVI but didn't show any.

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NT

PS Anyone have comments on schools with solid MM programs?

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