ARNOLDR%GRIN1.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (Arnold,Robert C Jr.) (11/12/90)
================================= I saw your post about Excellence! 2.0 and I was wondering if you could fill me in on a few things? 1. How much is it on Educational discount? 2. How do I get the discount? 3. How well does it handle graphics? 4. How is its overall speed? 5. How does that virtual memory for a document work? (Good/bad/so so) I don't know if you have ever used Pen Pal before...but if so could you tell me how you think it rates in comparison. I appreciate any response you can give me. Mark Brown CCUBROW@INDSVAX1.BITNET ================================== This was one of several messages I got in reply to my question about converting postscript fonts to work with excellence 2.0. I tried E-mail to these people, but all but one bounced; also I thought that there might be enough interest to justify posting my replies. If you do not agree, sorry for the bandwidth waste... Excellence reminds me greatly of MS-word for the mac. The ruler looks about the same, and it attempts to be true wyswyg. The typing speed, cursor control speed, and overall speed are adequete, but not exceptional on a stock amiga 2000, I imagine there would be no speed complaints on an accellerated amiga. The spell checking speed, thesoreses (sp.) speed, and etc. are quite fast, even on a plain 2000, though I think the package checks for extra memory and uses it to speed up those functions if possible (and I have 3 meg. BTW, it only uses 1.5 or so, at most). The main complaint, as I said in my posting, is the delete speed. It is slow, just like normal cursor movement using the arrow keys, but unlike the arrow keys it doesn't stop when you let go of the key--it continues to delete for whatever (probably large) number of characters it stored up while the key was auto-repeating. It is a good package though, and seems to have more features than MS-word (though I am not a MS-word guru), and probably more than wordperfect (plus it is MUCH nicer feeling than wordperfect, except for the backspace/delete problem). It seems to handle pictures fairly well, though not as good as prowrite. The postscript support is nicer than any other amiga wordprocesser I've used, but I would like to have more fonts included standard. They do include a program that takes professional page postscript fonts and converts them for use with excellence, but this is an expensive way to get fonts if you don't already own pro page... If I remember correctly, I paid ~$100 for the Ed. discount priced package. You must send them some kind of proof that you are a student/teacher/ something simuler and state that you want the educational pricing. I faxed them my order with a photocopy of my student ID and they shipped the order the same day via first-class mail. I haven't used graphics very often in my documents, but it seems to do a fairly good job at importing them. It allows resizing and cropping, but does treat an image as a single character, so you can't flow text around an image like you can in Prowrite (I think). Its overall speed is ok, but not great :-) It is quite fast considering all of its features, but on my stock 2000 it is definetely *not* a speed demon. I imagine it would be quite fast on an accellerated amiga. The only part of the program that I find painful is backspacing and deleting (using the backspace and delete keys, not the mouse-selection delete function, which is quite fast). It seems to auto-repeat about 5 times faster than it moves on screen, which leads to a lot of accidental deleting; just moving the cursor around with the arrow keys is also slow, but it doesn't store up keystrokes like the others do. Mouse speed, reformating speed, spell checking speed, thesoreses(sp.) speed, and etc are all fast. I haven't ever set up the virtual memory handler (it is optional to the program, and doesn't use it by default). It seems to be a decent implementation---you get to choose the maximum size of the document space, and can page out to floppy, hard drive, ram: ;-) or whatever. I have never used Pen Pal, though I looked at it before buying Excellence!. From my understanding, Pen Pal didn't have postscript support, which I really wanted. Excellence! seems to have pretty much every feature I could imagine or want (so far), though it would be nice if it came with more postscript fonts standard. hope this helps, rob -------------------------end of reply---------------------------- Please excuse any weird spacing, I am using cut and paste from a cmdtool on a sun to edt on a rlogined vax. by the way, I am still looking for pointers in converting postscript fonts to work with excellence. Rob Arnold Arnoldr@Grin1.bitnet ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~