parker@cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (James Parker) (08/29/90)
Does anyone know if a good optimizer exists in the public domain??? I have a 105M Quantum and I need something to optimize it. A friend of mine who has B.A.D. says it takes a lot of memory to run. Even though I have a 3Meg A2000, he has the same setup, but with a 40M drive, and says sometimes it won't optimize his hard drive due to memory restrictions. He told me it was proportional to size of the hard drive, and I know if it wouldn't do 40Megs, it surely won't do 105M. Is this a bug in the program or does it really take that much memory? I don't want to buy it if it isn't gonna do the job. Is there anything else out there that will work on 105Megs? (Public domain or commercial?) Thanks in advance, J Parker
rchampe@hubcap.clemson.edu (Richard Champeaux) (08/30/90)
In article <869@h.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu> parker@cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (James Parker) writes: > >Does anyone know if a good optimizer exists in the public domain??? > >I have a 105M Quantum and I need something to optimize it. A friend >of mine who has B.A.D. says it takes a lot of memory to run. Even >though I have a 3Meg A2000, he has the same setup, but with a 40M drive, >and says sometimes it won't optimize his hard drive due to memory >restrictions. He told me it was proportional to size of the hard drive, >and I know if it wouldn't do 40Megs, it surely won't do 105M. Is this a >bug in the program or does it really take that much memory? Do you have only one partition? If so, smart partitioning would be a good start to optimizing your drive. Also, B.A.D. works on individual partitions, not the entire drive. So, if you have your drive set up into, say, 40 meg partitions, it would require a lot less memory. I have only a 2 meg computer and I was able to optimize a 30 meg partition. The only catch is that B.A.D. requires the memory to be continuous. So you would probably want to cntrl-D the startup sequence before it starts fragmenting memory. I think I figured it out from their stated memory requirements that it would take about 1 meg of continuous memory to optimise a 40 meg partition. Assuming that your 2 megs of expansion memory is on the same board, and therefore continuous, you should have no problems optimizing 40 - 60 meg partitions. Like I said, you should have your drive partioned anyhow, to make the operation more efficient by shortening the directory lists. >J Parker ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Rich Champeaux PLT: The plotter device for the Amiga! rchampe@hubcap.clemson.edu Ask for it at your neighborhood FTP site! "They say I'm lazy, but it takes all my time." ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
bworrell@cmcvx1.claremont.edu (worrell, brandon lee) (08/30/90)
In article <869@h.cs.wvu.wvnet.edu>, parker@cs.wvu.wvnet.edu (James Parker) writes... > >Does anyone know if a good optimizer exists in the public domain??? > >I have a 105M Quantum and I need something to optimize it. A friend >of mine who has B.A.D. says it takes a lot of memory to run. Even >though I have a 3Meg A2000, he has the same setup, but with a 40M drive, >and says sometimes it won't optimize his hard drive due to memory >restrictions. He told me it was proportional to size of the hard drive, >and I know if it wouldn't do 40Megs, it surely won't do 105M. Is this a >bug in the program or does it really take that much memory? > I have used BAD on my Quantum 105 hard disk quite a bit. I also have 3 megs in my A500. I have never had a problem with memory restraints once it starts, it should always tell you if you have enough memory before it starts optimizing. I have no problem optimizing my largest (72Meg) partition as long as nothing else is running. Note that the memory requirements have to do with the size of the partition that you want to optimize, not how large your hard disk is. BAD does a pretty good job, but it does take a LONG time to do large partitions. I would really like to see some other de-fragmentors come out for the Amiga. Specifically, one that will do it as you write to the disk..... I would also like to see one that will automatically de-fragment at specific time intervals. (Or if there is a way to easily find out how badly fragmented your disk really is. --Brandon Worrell bworrell@cmcvx1.claremont.edu
dalka@cbnewsc.att.com (kenneth.j.dalka) (08/30/90)
> > Does anyone know if a good optimizer exists in the public domain??? > > I have a 105M Quantum and I need something to optimize it. A friend > of mine who has B.A.D. says it takes a lot of memory to run. Even > though I have a 3Meg A2000, he has the same setup, but with a 40M drive, > and says sometimes it won't optimize his hard drive due to memory > restrictions. He told me it was proportional to size of the hard drive, > and I know if it wouldn't do 40Megs, it surely won't do 105M. I too am looking for a disk optimizer. I was thinking of getting BAD but I would like to hear other peoples experiences with these things before I have it chew on my disk. Is there any hard disk/controller dependencies that I have to worry about? I have a Xetec hard disk controller and disk. actually, I think they put a segate in the package. I have a 49 meg hard disk with a boot partition that Xetec requires and a dh0: partition. I have 3 meg of total memory. -- Ken Dalka (Bell Labs) att!ihlpf!dalka IHC 1U-228 (708) 305-4449
jol@sei.cmu.edu (Jun Lee) (11/01/90)
Hi. Is there a PD hard disk optimizer I can ftp from somewhere? Thanks, -- AMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIG J @@ jol@sei.cmu.edu // U \/ (412) 268-7602 \\ // N LEE SEI, Carnegie Mellon University \X/
jol@sei.cmu.edu (Jun Lee) (11/09/90)
Hi. I've asked this before but I'vent' got ANY response from you netters yet. So here it goes again. Is there a Hard Disk optimizer for the Amiga? PD or Commercial. Is there a disk file editor? Something like Norton Utilities on the PC. Thanks, -- AMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIGAMIG J @@ jol@sei.cmu.edu // U \/ (412) 268-7602 \\ // N LEE SEI, Carnegie Mellon University \X/
mhenders@hydra.unm.edu (Stinger) (11/10/90)
Well, for hard disk optimization, there is a commercial program
for the Amiga that just came out called "Quarterback Tools". That is
really the only tool the program has but it works quite well in
organizing your sectors and setting them up sequentially as well as
trying to link lost clusters etc. It sells for around $69.
As for a disk editor there are quite a few PD prog's out there. I
have a good one called Hack (hmmm... questionable name, taste wise)
but it allows track editing straight from disk or from a file read
into ram. As soon as I make positive that it's PD i'll upload it to
nasa archives.
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____>/ / / / ___/ <__ / << Computer Hypochondriac >> \XX/ || joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph P. Hillenburg) (11/10/90)
For Norton-type stuff, check out QuarterBack Utilities. The ad says, simply, (I think) "Use QuarterBack to save your hard drive. Use Quarterback Utils to save your ass." [not in those exact words, but very close] Joseph Hillenburg, Secretary, Bloomington Amiga Users Group (BAUG) joseph@valnet.UUCP ...!iuvax!valnet!joseph "Only Apple could slow down a 68000 chip." -Computer Shopper
telam@pyrps5.pyramid.com (Thomas Elam) (11/15/90)
In article <9458@fy.sei.cmu.edu>, jol@sei.cmu.edu (Jun Lee) writes: |> Hi. |> |> I've asked this before but I'vent' got ANY response from you netters yet. |> So here it goes again. |> |> Is there a Hard Disk optimizer for the Amiga? PD or Commercial. |> Is there a disk file editor? Something like Norton Utilities on |> the PC. There's B.A.D. It's supposed to be good. ;-) I think what it is is a program that puts files in the same directory and blocks of the same file in close neighborhoods on the disk, thus reducing access time for typical usage such as searching a directory or reading a file. |> Thanks, Welcome. Tom
klein@npdiss1.StPaul.NCR.COM (Tony Klein) (11/22/90)
In article <134277@pyramid.pyramid.com> telam@pyrps5.pyramid.com (Thomas Elam) writes: >In article <9458@fy.sei.cmu.edu>, jol@sei.cmu.edu (Jun Lee) writes: >|> >|> I've asked this before but I'vent' got ANY response from you netters yet. >|> So here it goes again. >|> >|> Is there a Hard Disk optimizer for the Amiga? PD or Commercial. >|> Is there a disk file editor? Something like Norton Utilities on >|> the PC. > >There's B.A.D. It's supposed to be good. ;-) I think what it is is >a program that puts files in the same directory and blocks of the same >file in close neighborhoods on the disk, thus reducing access time for >typical usage such as searching a directory or reading a file. B.A.D. has a switch you set to either 'WB' or 'CLI', specifying whether you want to have fast-appearing icons or rather fast-listing list'ings. There is no doubt that it speeds icon appearance on the WB - click on a Blitz'd disk and >whoosh< the icons appear with nary a gronk from the drive. I believe it moves all the .info files to the same track (whatever) so they can load without seeking all over the disk. I am not sure about the data blocks of the files, however. I don't notice any big difference in the time it takes to actually load a program. Anybody know if B.A.D. twiddles with data blocks, or is it just directories -or- .info files? <TK> ____/| Tony Klein, Software Engineer, NCR Comten, St.Paul, MN 612-638-7665 () \| Tony.Klein@stpaul.ncr.com