duncan@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Shan D Duncan) (02/05/89)
I found VLT on ucbvax.berkeley.edu this summer. With the graduation of Matt Dillon - away it went. It is back with a few of his programs (DME 1.35 in particular). What happened to VLT? BUT the question I would like to know is: What is the status of VLT? Has it been updated? The version I have is 3.649 Thx in advance (VLT is a VERY nice vt100/tek terminal program with an Arexx port written at the Stanford Linear Accelerator Center by Marvin Weinstein and Willy Langeveld for connection amigas up to other computers particularly with the purpose of supporting TeX).
ecphssrw@solaria.csun.edu (Stephen Walton) (02/07/89)
In article <778@csd4.milw.wisc.edu> duncan@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Shan D Duncan) writes: > >What is the status of VLT? Has it been updated? > >The version I have is 3.649 You have the most recent version of VLT, but not of rexxarplib.library, in all probability. The latter is what VLT's author has spent most of his Amiga time on, of late. The new version, 2.0, has many nice new features and is considered to be "finished" unless someone has a REALLY must-have feature. You have the current version if it is 38760 bytes long. -- Stephen Walton, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Cal State Univ. Northridge RCKG01M@CALSTATE.BITNET ecphssrw@afws.csun.edu swalton@solar.stanford.edu ...!csun!afws.csun.edu!ecphssrw
chas@gtss.gatech.edu (Charles Cleveland) (02/07/89)
In article <470@solaria.csun.edu> ecphssrw@robin.csun.edu (Stephen R. Walton) writes: )In article <778@csd4.milw.wisc.edu> duncan@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Shan D Duncan) writes: )> )>What is the status of VLT? Has it been updated? )> )>The version I have is 3.649 ) )You have the most recent version of VLT ... The version I have is 3.656. -- - It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be - - coming up it. -- Henry Allen - Charles Cleveland Georgia Tech School of Physics Atlanta, GA 30332-0430 UUCP: ...!gatech!gtss!chas INTERNET: chas@gtss.gatech.edu
m230bw89@trillium.waterloo.edu (Scotte Zinn) (02/07/89)
Where can one obtain the latest copy of VLT? Is it available thru FTP somewhere? --- Scotte Zinn rszinn@rose.waterloo.edu or m230bw89@trillium.waterloo.edu
riley@batcomputer.tn.cornell.edu (Daniel S. Riley) (02/08/89)
In article <470@solaria.csun.edu> ecphssrw@robin.csun.edu (Stephen R. Walton) writes: >In article <778@csd4.milw.wisc.edu> duncan@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Shan D Duncan) writes: >>What is the status of VLT? Has it been updated? >>The version I have is 3.649 >You have the most recent version of VLT, but not of rexxarplib.library, Actually, there are later versions of both VLT and rexxarplib. Willy Langeveld said (on BIX) that it probably wasn't worth getting the new version of VLT if you didn't have trouble with the old one--it's mostly just obscure bug fixes--so I haven't picked up the new one. There's also a new rexxarplib (2.1 ??) which has some support for iff files, using the German iff.library that's been making the rounds. I don't have it either, but it's out there somewhere... -Dan Riley (riley@tcgould.tn.cornell.edu, cornell!batcomputer!riley) -Wilson Lab, Cornell U.
chas@gtss.gatech.edu (Charles Cleveland) (02/08/89)
In article <11332@watdragon.waterloo.edu> m230bw89@trillium.waterloo.edu (Scotte Zinn) writes:
)
)Where can one obtain the latest copy of VLT? Is it available thru FTP
)somewhere?
AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!
[Sorry about the outburst.]
I haven't done this because none of my sources have done it. Jim Crotinger
and Maurice LeBrun are responsible for all the VLT stuff I've got. Neither
has (apparently) offered it to comp.binaries.amiga. Both apparently have
access to the net. Is SOMETHING WRONG with making VLT public? My impression
is that it is freely redistributable, but copywrited. Someone let me know to
the contrary and I'll slam the door on this. On the other hand, if no one
else can figure out, from the material I am now exposing to the PUBLIC, why
the VLT stuff shouldn't be sent to comp.binaries.amiga, then I suggest they
do it, or strongly suggest that I do it.
By virtue of enormous public pressure, I hereby make available by anonymous
ftp from gtss.gatech.edu (aka 128.61.4.1) a bunch of VLT related stuff. When
you get in change directory to pub. There there is a vlt directory,
containing vlt stuff (release 3.656). There there is also a rexxarplib2.1
directory, containing version 2.1 of rexxarplib. There there is also an
ifflib15.3 directory, containing version 15.3 of an iff library which
rexxarplib2.1 will use if the occasion arises (I haven't tried either
rexxaprlib2.1 or ifflib15.3).
I set all this up today, including anonymous ftp access to this system.
Let me know by mail if it doesn't work. Also let me know if it shouldn't.
--
- It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be -
- coming up it. -- Henry Allen -
Charles Cleveland Georgia Tech School of Physics Atlanta, GA 30332-0430
UUCP: ...!gatech!gtss!chas INTERNET: chas@gtss.gatech.edujac@ssibbs.UUCP (James Crotinger) (02/09/89)
In article <470@solaria.csun.edu>, ecphssrw@solaria.csun.edu (Stephen Walton) writes: > In article <778@csd4.milw.wisc.edu> duncan@csd4.milw.wisc.edu (Shan D Duncan) writes: > >The version I have is 3.649 > > You have the most recent version of VLT, but not of rexxarplib.library, > in all probability. The latter is what VLT's author has spent most > of his Amiga time on, of late. The new version, 2.0, has many nice > new features and is considered to be "finished" unless someone has > a REALLY must-have feature. You have the current version if it is > 38760 bytes long. > -- > Stephen Walton, Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, Cal State Univ. Northridge Actually the latest version of VLT is 3.656 and the latest version of rexxarplib.library is 2.1. RexxArpLib.library 2.1 is 42,256 bytes long. I believe both are mostly minor bug fixes from the previous versions. I think Willy is now working on some more improvements for VLT. He's mentioned some planned improvements to both KERMIT and the scripting language, the latter aimed at better AREXX support. Jim -- Jim Crotinger crotinger%mit.mfenet@nmfecc.arpa
jac@ssibbs.UUCP (James Crotinger) (02/09/89)
In article <328@gtss.gatech.edu>, chas@gtss.gatech.edu (Charles Cleveland) writes: > > I haven't done this because none of my sources have done it. Jim Crotinger > and Maurice LeBrun are responsible for all the VLT stuff I've got. Neither > has (apparently) offered it to comp.binaries.amiga. Both apparently have > access to the net. Is SOMETHING WRONG with making VLT public? I'm sure that it is fine to post it to comp.binaries.amiga. I'm afraid that that my access to the NET is not nearly as convenient as my access to MFENET, so I haven't gotten around to posting it. (Not to mention that I'm somewhat preoccupied tying up so minor details of my education (read: finishing my Ph.D. thesis 8-) ). I don't know what Maurice's excuse is 8-)? > Charles Cleveland Georgia Tech School of Physics Atlanta, GA 30332-0430 Jim -- Jim Crotinger crotinger%mit.mfenet@nmfecc.arpa
mjl@ut-emx.UUCP (Maurice LeBrun) (02/25/89)
In article <95@ssibbs.UUCP>, jac@ssibbs.UUCP (James Crotinger) writes: > In article <328@gtss.gatech.edu>, chas@gtss.gatech.edu (Charles Cleveland) writes: > > > > I haven't done this because none of my sources have done it. Jim Crotinger > > and Maurice LeBrun are responsible for all the VLT stuff I've got. Neither > > has (apparently) offered it to comp.binaries.amiga. Both apparently have > > access to the net. Is SOMETHING WRONG with making VLT public? > > I'm sure that it is fine to post it to comp.binaries.amiga. I'm afraid that > that my access to the NET is not nearly as convenient as my access to MFENET, > so I haven't gotten around to posting it. (Not to mention that I'm somewhat > preoccupied tying up so minor details of my education (read: finishing my Ph.D. > thesis 8-) ). I don't know what Maurice's excuse is 8-)? > Yeah, us post-docs just sit around bullsh**ting all day long -- the grunt work goes to the grad students, of course :-). Sorry it took me so long to respond, I sort of get down when there's 500 messages to read..so I had a marathon session the other night and got caught up. I will send VLT and it's paraphernalia off to Bob Page when I get the chance (we haven't heard from him for a while..but I dumped moria 3.0 on him a few weeks back and he's probably addicted by now :-). Back when VLT was originally requested (6 mos ago?) there were the problems with binaries, plus I was pretty new to the net and didn't know my way around. Anyhow, the documentation accompanying VLT should probably include at least the complete TeX sources, plus the stripped ascii version. Anyone see the need to distribute a .dvi file as well? I don't think it's worth waiting for the next update, unless he's getting really close (I'll give Willy a yell). Maurice LeBrun | Confusion will be my epitaph, Institute for Fusion Studies | as I crawl a cracked and broken path University of Texas at Austin | If we make it, we should all sit back and laugh Internet: | But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying... mjl@fusion.ph.utexas.edu | King Crimson
chas@gtss.gatech.edu (Charles Cleveland) (02/25/89)
In article <10755@ut-emx.UUCP> mjl@ut-emx.UUCP (Maurice LeBrun) writes:
)
)I will send VLT and it's paraphernalia off to Bob Page when I get the
)chance (we haven't heard from him for a while..but I dumped moria 3.0
)on him a few weeks back and he's probably addicted by now :-). Back
)when VLT was originally requested (6 mos ago?) there were the problems
)with binaries, plus I was pretty new to the net and didn't know my way
)around. Anyhow, the documentation accompanying VLT should probably
)include at least the complete TeX sources, plus the stripped ascii
)version. Anyone see the need to distribute a .dvi file as well?
)I don't think it's worth waiting for the next update, unless he's
)getting really close (I'll give Willy a yell).
)
)Maurice LeBrun | Confusion will be my epitaph,
)Institute for Fusion Studies | as I crawl a cracked and broken path
)University of Texas at Austin | If we make it, we should all sit back and laugh
)Internet: | But I fear tomorrow I'll be crying...
) mjl@fusion.ph.utexas.edu | King Crimson
It's been done. I was wondering what the delay was, but your remarks
about Moria probably explain that. However I didn't send the TeX documentation
only the .dvi file and an ASCII version of the docs, because I have never seen
the magic SLAC macros that are needed to use the TeX file. If you have these
send them to Bob, and also to me, so that I can make my anonymous ftp VLT
collection complete.
--
- It is better for civilization to be going down the drain than to be -
- coming up it. -- Henry Allen -
Charles Cleveland Georgia Tech School of Physics Atlanta, GA 30332-0430
UUCP: ...!gatech!gtss!chas INTERNET: chas@gtss.gatech.edujtn@steven.COM (jtn) (08/30/89)
I'm trying to use VLT4.036 with (among others) DEC's TPU editor. It works beautifully, except when I use the up-arrow to scroll text down the screen, I only scroll about 6 lines and the rest of the screen gets chewed up. Is this a bug, or do I have something set wrong? What is prescroll, anyway? Help would be appreciated. -- >> Jim Newberry, Sierra Geophysics, Inc., PO 3886, Seattle, WA 98033 >> Phone: (206) 822-5200, uucp: ..!uw-beaver!sumax!ole!steven!jtn >> "Frets ain't nuthin but speed bumps on a banjo..." :-}
GORRIEDE@UREGINA1.BITNET (Dennis Robert Gorrie) (10/11/89)
If anyone has uuencoded binaries and docs for VLT (fishdisk 226) could you send a copy to: +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ |Dennis Gorrie | |GORRIEDE AT UREGINA1.BITNET | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
nemisis@blake.acs.washington.edu (Karen McElroy) (03/14/90)
Where can I get the latest version of VLT? (FTP)
nemisis@blake.acs.washington.edu (Karen McElroy) (03/18/90)
I didn't get any response for my last post, so I'll post this question again: Where (FTP?) can I get the latest version of VLT?
lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (05/08/90)
In <1990May8.161952.2322@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, kgs@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Kok G Sang) writes: >VLT is a really nice communications program. The only gripe I have with it is >that it doesn't have a phonebook directory. Is there a hack or program that >will let me dial in VLT? You could probably implement it using ARexx. One way would be to have an ARexx macro that would call up a file requester, presenting you with a list of named files. Within each file would be the phone number, baud rate, and any other settings you might want to use. Selecting a file by name, the macro would then proceed to parse the file, setting VLT up, and dialling the modem. You could build in virtually any other features you want, including auto-login, auto-redial, dial from list, etc. If I used VLT I would probbaly throw something like this together. -larry -- NeXT. The hardware makes it a PC. The software makes it a workstation. The units shipped makes it a mainframe. -=stolen from Hazy=- +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
kgs@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Kok G Sang) (05/08/90)
VLT is a really nice communications program. The only gripe I have with it is that it doesn't have a phonebook directory. Is there a hack or program that will let me dial in VLT? Thanks!
gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) (11/10/90)
Can somebody with BIXmail access please email Willy Langeveld about VLT? I am wondering when another release of VLT is pending, and if vt100 is going to be made rock solid? So far, the only program that has totally solid vt100 that I've found is Handshake, and it is not nearly as feature laden as VLT. Thanks, Ralph Ralph Seguin gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu 536 South Forest Apt. #915 gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu Ann Arbor, MI 48104 (313) 662-4805
dean@coplex.UUCP (Dean Brooks) (11/12/90)
gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) writes: >Can somebody with BIXmail access please email Willy Langeveld about VLT? >I am wondering when another release of VLT is pending, and if vt100 >is going to be made rock solid? So far, the only program that has >totally solid vt100 that I've found is Handshake, and it is not nearly >as feature laden as VLT. I post rather than E-Mail as others may be intersted in knowing. What VT100 features are lacking from VLT that are not "rock solid"? I use VLT constantly in connection with the mini at work, and vt100 is my native mode of operation. Every possible terminal function I can think of, other than perhaps programmable character sets, appear to work perfectly (does vt100 even have that?). I would be interested in knowing though... Thanks, Dean -- dean@coplex.UUCP Dean A. Brooks Copper Electronics, Inc. Louisville, Ky UUCP: !uunet!coplex!dean
pallen@sysp1.hq.af.mil (Pete Allen) (11/20/90)
In <1990Nov10.073449.22405@engin.umich.edu> (Ralph Seguin) writes: > So far, the only program that has >totally solid vt100 that I've found is Handshake, and it is not nearly >as feature laden as VLT. > Thanks, Ralph Have you tried JR-COmm V1.01? I use it's VT-100 emulation every day and have had great success with it. It and Handshake are the only two that I've tried so far that support the custom font features. -- ============================================================================== = Pete Allen - N L 7 O I = _ // = If the Air Force WANTED me to have an = = pallen@sysp1.hq.af.mil = \X/ = an opinion, they'd have ISSUED me one = ==============================================================================
thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan) (11/25/90)
pallen@sysp1.hq.af.mil (Pete Allen) in <pallen.659060858@sysp1> writes: In <1990Nov10.073449.22405@engin.umich.edu> (Ralph Seguin) writes: > So far, the only program that has >totally solid vt100 that I've found is Handshake, and it is not nearly >as feature laden as VLT. > Thanks, Ralph Have you tried JR-COmm V1.01? I use it's VT-100 emulation every day and have had great success with it. It and Handshake are the only two that I've tried so far that support the custom font features. There's NO need to speculate as to what works and what doesn't. "VT100 emulation" (contrasted with "ANSI compatibility") implies a very specific set of commands and features that MUST function correctly, else the emulation is flawed. Just because so-called "VT100 emulators" can position the cursor when your host system has been informed you're using a "VT100" does NOT mean the emulation is correct. Among the unique features of a real VT100 are double wide and double-wide/ double-high characters, an alternate line-drawing character set(s), region scrolling (forward and reverse, jump and smooth scroll), line insert/delete and often character insert/delete (VT102), bold/blink/underline/etc. character display attributes, etc etc etc. The "real world" tests mandate using Stallman's EMACS on a DEC-20, VAX or UNIX box and/or fancy menu windows with cursor and application keys handled properly using, for example, SMG on a VAX/VMS, or FACE/FMLI on a SVR3 or SVR4 UNIX box. The definitive test, no exception, is the Per Lindberg VT100 validation suite which is available at most archive sites; this program works on TOPS-20 and UNIX systems and will verify positively a "correct" VT100 emulation. Very few terminal emulations will survive 10 seconds into this test, and there are many actual, real terminals that also fail very quickly. The full test suite requires about 20 minutes to run, and it runs interactively. Several years ago when I last ran the test, the ONLY emulation program on the Amiga that passed the Per Lindberg suite was HandShake version 2.12a. Marco Papa claimed his ATalkIII will pass the test, but I haven't tried ATalkIII. Last time I tried VLT, it, too, failed the test, but I still use VLT for its Tektronix emulation. For the record, NOTHING on a Mac will pass the test (as of earlier this year). Thad Floryan [ thad@cup.portal.com (OR) ..!sun!portal!cup.portal.com!thad ]