cmcmanis%pepper@Sun.COM (Chuck McManis) (08/24/88)
In article <130@antares.UUCP> pnelson@antares.UUCP (phil nelson) writes:
-> I tried the latest release of Kermit for M*-DOS on my BridgeBoard(tm),
-> no dice, it didn't like the com port. (something about the com3
-> interrupt?). Also, I still can't use my jh0: concurrently with any
-> BridgeBoard(tm) - side program that uses either the com1 port or the
-> floppy. When any Amiga-DOS(tm) program accesses the jh0:, I either lose
-> chars on com1, or lose the floppy transfer (you know - Abort, Retry,
-> Ignore, Get a real OS? :-). Was this problem ever identified as a bug?
-> I finally gave up trying to get an answer (I didn't know how to run
-> usenet at the time, the phone calls and time were excessive).
The bridge board uses the COM1: interrupt to communicate between the
Amiga side and the MS-DOS side. This makes the following statement something
of an absolute : "COM1 is reserved on the bridgeboard, you cannot use it
for anything." I know, it isn't pretty but hey, XT`s just don't have very
many interrupts that one can use.
--Chuck McManis
uucp: {anywhere}!sun!cmcmanis BIX: cmcmanis ARPAnet: cmcmanis@sun.com
These opinions are my own and no one elses, but you knew that didn't you.
papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) (08/24/88)
In article <65366@sun.uucp| cmcmanis@sun.UUCP (Chuck McManis) writes: |In article <130@antares.UUCP| pnelson@antares.UUCP (phil nelson) writes: |-| I tried the latest release of Kermit for M*-DOS on my BridgeBoard(tm), |-| no dice, it didn't like the com port. (something about the com3 |-| interrupt?). Also, I still can't use my jh0: concurrently with any |-| BridgeBoard(tm) - side program that uses either the com1 port or the |-| floppy. When any Amiga-DOS(tm) program accesses the jh0:, I either lose |-| chars on com1, or lose the floppy transfer (you know - Abort, Retry, |-| Ignore, Get a real OS? :-). Was this problem ever identified as a bug? |-| I finally gave up trying to get an answer (I didn't know how to run |-| usenet at the time, the phone calls and time were excessive). |The bridge board uses the COM1: interrupt to communicate between the |Amiga side and the MS-DOS side. This makes the following statement something |of an absolute : "COM1 is reserved on the bridgeboard, you cannot use it |for anything." I know, it isn't pretty but hey, XT`s just don't have very |many interrupts that one can use. I am puzzled. I have been using a serial card installed in one of the PC slots of the BridgeCard, set up as COM1:, and I haven't had any problems running Kermit or ProComm. Are we talking about using the "amiga" serial port or a pc-serial card? It is well known that the "amiga" serial port is not supported from the IBM side (though, the paraller port is). Maybe I was dreaming? -- Marco Papa 'Doc' -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
pnelson@antares.UUCP (phil nelson) (08/25/88)
In article <11793@oberon.USC.EDU> papa@pollux.usc.edu (Marco Papa) writes: |In article <65366@sun.uucp> cmcmanis@sun.UUCP (Chuck McManis) writes: ||In article <130@antares.UUCP> pnelson@antares.UUCP (phil nelson) writes: ... stuff removed about Kermit-MS not working and losing chars on com1 and floppy problems... (so I don't repeat myself too much :-) | ||The bridge board uses the COM1: interrupt to communicate between the ||Amiga side and the MS-DOS side. This makes the following statement something ||of an absolute : "COM1 is reserved on the bridgeboard, you cannot use it ||for anything." I know, it isn't pretty but hey, XT`s just don't have very ||many interrupts that one can use. | |I am puzzled. I have been using a serial card installed in one of the PC slots |of the BridgeCard, set up as COM1:, and I haven't had any problems running |Kermit or ProComm. Are we talking about using the "amiga" serial port or |a pc-serial card? It is well known that the "amiga" serial port is not |supported from the IBM side (though, the paraller port is). Maybe I was |dreaming? | | |-- Marco Papa 'Doc' |-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= |uucp:...!pollux!papa BIX:papa ARPAnet:pollux!papa@oberon.usc.edu | "There's Alpha, Beta, Gamma and Diga!" -- Leo Schwab [quoting Rick Unland] |-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= I have used Procomm and two other comm programs, all on COM1:, I only have problems when accessing JH0: while the transfer is taking place, except for the recently released Kermit-MS version 2.31, which won't run at all (*BM version) or says COM1: not ready (generic version). I looked through my BridgeBoard(tm) user's guide again (you know, the little pamphlet), I didn't see any mention of reserved interrupts. I still don't understand what's going on, should I move the card to COM2:? The BridgeBoard(tm) is reasonably compatible for my purposes, I use it quite a bit, but I certainly would think twice before buying any complicated software (*nix for example) for it. Maybe the '286 will be more compatible. Oh yeah- where -is- that '286 Board ??? -Philip Nelson * BridgeBoard is a trademark of Commodore-Amiga (are all the attorneys happy?, OK, are SOME of the attorneys happy? :-) -- {ames|pyramid}oliveb!tymix!antares!pnelson | Contains one or more of the OnTyme: QSATS.P/Nelson POTS: (408)922-7508 | following: Pleas for help, Free Disclaimer: Not officially representing | advice, Opinion, Misc. rambling. McDonnell Douglas Corporation policy. | * Use at your own risk *
HRUBIN%UCONNVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu (01/17/89)
I would appreciate if someone can tell me what the latest versions of Aread and Awrite are. The files that I currently have are: aread.exe 10608 1/1/80 6:41a awrite.exe10560 1/1/80 6:47a. As of yet, I can't get either of these two programs to read/write to a virtual device (using jlink). For example if I jlink c: d1:pc/ibmdisk, where d1: is a hard drive on the amiga side and the file pc/ibmdisk contains several files written on the ibm side (dir c: works great). If I try awrite c:file.txt vd0:file.txt, a file of the file.txt is created on the Amiga side but is of zero length. After running awrite if I again dir c: I get a read fault on drive c, abort, retry, ignore. I have gotten aread/awrite to work correctly if the IBM files are on the floppy connected directly to the bridgeboard. On the same topic does anyone know if Commodore will ever release a version that in addition to the above problems also allows for wildcard file specs? Has Commodore released the information needed for someone outside of Commodore to write such a program (eg how does one talk to teh amiga side PCDisk program)? Harvey Hrubin@uconnvm.edu HRUBIN@UCONNVM amiga-replay@udel.e 1/16/89 Bridgeboard
daveo@ohman.UUCP (Dave Oh) (01/23/89)
Does anyone out there know the wherabouts of the AT Bridgeboard... Is it coming? If so, will it come soon? Also, I have another question. Is it possible to use FFS a Bridgeboard harddisk partition (ie: a HD on the IBM side)? I've been told that it can be done, is this true? Thanx. -- // Dave Oh PLINK: Dave*Oh \X/ Kitchener, Ontario UUCP: !egvideo!ohman!daveo
bill@cbmvax.UUCP (Bill Koester CATS) (01/24/89)
In article <6776@louie.udel.EDU> HRUBIN%UCONNVM.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu writes: > > I would appreciate if someone can tell me what the latest versions of Aread >and Awrite are. The files that I currently have are: > > As of yet, I can't get either of these two programs to read/write to a >virtual device (using jlink). This has been fixed for the next release of the Janus software. Available RSN. > On the same topic does anyone know if Commodore will ever release a >version that in addition to the above problems also allows for wildcard >file specs? The new Awrite allows wild cards! >Has Commodore released the information needed for someone outside >of Commodore to write such a program (eg how does one talk to teh amiga side >PCDisk program)? No! Do not attempt to use PCDisk in your own programs. PCDisk will dissapear in the near future. >Harvey Hrubin@uconnvm.edu > HRUBIN@UCONNVM amiga-replay@udel.e 1/16/89 Bridgeboard -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Koester (CATS) >>Commodore Amiga Technical Support<< Commodore International Ltd. UUCP {allegra|burdvax|rutgers|ihnp4}!cbmvax!bill PHONE (215) 431-9355 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The official word, is NO. I am therefore going anyway! Kirk - Star Trek III Pleese desrigard eny spealing airors!!!!!!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
bill@cbmvax.UUCP (Bill Koester CATS) (01/26/89)
In article <0220.AA0220@ohman> daveo@ohman.UUCP (Dave Oh) writes: >Does anyone out there know the wherabouts of the AT Bridgeboard... Is it >coming? If so, will it come soon? > RSN! >Also, I have another question. Is it possible to use FFS a Bridgeboard harddisk partition (ie: a HD on the IBM side)? I've been told that it can be done, is this true? > V2.0 of the Janus software ( also RSN ) will allow this. >Thanx. > No problem. > // Dave Oh PLINK: Dave*Oh -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Koester (CATS) >>Commodore Amiga Technical Support<< Commodore International Ltd. UUCP {allegra|burdvax|rutgers|ihnp4}!cbmvax!bill PHONE (215) 431-9355 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The official word, is NO. I am therefore going anyway! Kirk - Star Trek III Pleese desrigard eny spealing airors!!!!!!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
deraadt@xenlink.UUCP (Theo A. DeRaadt) (01/26/89)
I need an AT Bridge-type Proto board for an Amiga 2000. Ya know what I mean, three sets of fingers? Please post any info, the maps to us are really busted, and noone can mail to us (for another two weeks or so more) <tdr.
baryeka@hpccc.HP.COM (Jarek Baryeka) (01/27/89)
/ hpccc:comp.sys.amiga / daveo@ohman.UUCP (Dave Oh) / 6:18 am Jan 23, 1989 / >Does anyone out there know the wherabouts of the AT Bridgeboard... Is it >coming? If so, will it come soon? > >Also, I have another question. Is it possible to use FFS a Bridgeboard >harddisk partition (ie: a HD on the IBM side)? I've been told that it can > be done, is this true? > >Thanx. > >-- > // Dave Oh PLINK: Dave*Oh >\X/ Kitchener, Ontario UUCP: !egvideo!ohman!daveo >---------- I have managed to buy an AT bridgeboard in Switzerland (it is rather expensive there, SFr 2600 = about $1680). FSS works well and there are many improvements in Janus software but: 1) The documentation is incomplete (I have learned where to find the speaker and external controler connectors from a German magazine) 2) The system hangs from time to time witout apparent reasons. 3) When I boot with PCDisk running on the amiga side the PC screen is continually trashed with error messages 4) Some software which must be booted from a floppy (and does it well on every PC I know) does not work with the bridgeboard (a boot error message is displayed) Well, my enthusiasm dimnished somehow now. Jarek.
lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (01/30/89)
In <5784@cbmvax.UUCP>, bill@cbmvax.UUCP (Bill Koester CATS) writes: >>Also, I have another question. Is it possible to use FFS a Bridgeboard >>harddisk partition (ie: a HD on the IBM side)? I've been told that it >>can be done, is this true? > > V2.0 of the Janus software ( also RSN ) will allow this. > In the latest Transactor for the Amiga (Vol 1, issue 5), Don Curtis (Amiga Dispatches), gives a procedure for running an Amiga FFS partition on a Janus drive. Unfortunately, he took the word of someone on the net who detailed how it could be done, and it doesn't work. He did some playing and found out how to do it, and has written it up for TransAmi #6. He has kindly given me permission to cross-post a message from Compuserve with the methodology, so here it is: --------------------------------------------- #: 32034 S13/Tool Box 25-Jan-89 00:55:35 Sb: #32003-Disk Sector Editor Fm: Don Curtis/SYSOP 76703,4321 To: Andre Frech(CBM/ATL) 72077,3301 Andre, It'll be in my article for Transactor for the Amiga, issue #6, but in a nutshell: 1. partition via FDISK and ADISK as per normal if you don't already have a JANUS partition. 2. If you do have a JANUS partition, backup the entire thing. 3. Use DJMount and DPFormat and look at the start and ending cylinder numbers output by DPFormat...they're important. 4. Once formatted, use a sector editor and change byte #4 of track 0, sector 0 from 00 to 01 (change fs type to DOS1). 5. reboot...do NOT use DJMount any more 6. Create a mountlist for FFS, for JH0: (first partition) Unit # will be 0, JH1: (second partition) will be Unit 1, etc. You can call the drive anything you want to...nothing magical about JH0: and so forth. 7. Use the low and high cylinder numbers reported by DPFormat for LowCyl and HighCyl. Device is jdisk.device, sectors, tracks, etc. to match your specific drive. 8. Otherwise, normal FFS mountlist 9. Now MOUNT the drive...it'll work fine under FFS The one exception...and the reason for the gyrations is that the normal Format command will hang on the first cylinder no matter how the drive is mounted...thus you have to play with the dos type indicator by hand. It will now run significantly faster...as in 4 to 5 times as fast and as is typical with FFS drives, will hold an extra 5% of data. Typical disclaimer...I figured this method out, tested it and it worked fine for me...your mileage may vary. Don ------------------------------------- Hope this helps. -larry -- Frisbeetarianism: The belief that when you die, your soul goes up on the roof and gets stuck. +----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca or uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 | +----------------------------------------------------------------------+
davids@utstat.uucp (David Scollnik) (01/31/89)
On page 1 of the A2088 Bridgeboard user's guide, reference is made to "hybrid systems" or software which utilize the cpu's on both sides of the bridgeboard concurrently. As an example, say, to use the 8088/8087 co-processors to perform process monitoring, while the 68000 processor handles graphics displays (example also from the manual). Do such hybrid software beasties exist, PD or commercial ? And if so, could someone list some examples ? -- David P.M. Scollnik | UUCP: utstat!davids University of Toronto | bitnet: davids@utstat.utoronto Deptartment of Statistics | arpa: davids@utstat.toronto.edu (hi mom !!!)
bill@cbmvax.UUCP (Bill Koester CATS) (02/06/89)
In article <1989Jan30.215657.5487@utstat.uucp> davids@utstat.uucp (David Scollnik) writes: > > >On page 1 of the A2088 Bridgeboard user's guide, reference is made >to "hybrid systems" or software which utilize the cpu's on both >sides of the bridgeboard concurrently. > >As an example, say, to use the 8088/8087 co-processors to >perform process monitoring, while the 68000 processor handles >graphics displays (example also from the manual). > >Do such hybrid software beasties exist, PD or commercial ? >And if so, could someone list some examples ? > The new version of the Janus software V2.0 supports this. There are many such products currrently under development. I believe one is even shipping now! BK . -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Bill Koester (CATS) >>Commodore Amiga Technical Support<< Commodore International Ltd. UUCP {allegra|burdvax|rutgers|ihnp4}!cbmvax!bill PHONE (215) 431-9355 =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= The official word, is NO. I am therefore going anyway! Kirk - Star Trek III Pleese desrigard eny spealing airors!!!!!!! =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
dkanthar@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Devaprasad Kantharaj) (10/19/89)
I have a few questions about the 286 AT-style bridgeboard for the Amiga. 1) How fast does it run? What is its clockspeed? 2) At what standard does it run graphics? VGA? 3) Would I be able to use windows and os/2 with it? 4) Is it better to get the XT style bridgeboard and upgrade it with a 386 accelerator board? What is the price and performance difference between the two ways? I thank you in advance for your responses. Your fellow Amigan, Prasad
sie@fulcrum.bt.co.uk (Simon Raybould) (12/04/89)
I am trying to access my bridgeboard on an A2000 from the amiga end of things. I would like to be able to access the PC devices in a similar manner to AREAD AWRITE etc. I believe this entails reading/writing to the dual ported RAM. The Bridge Board is an A2088 XT. Many thanks S.J.R +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+ | Simon Raybould | BT Fulcrum | Are all your pets called | | path : sie@fulcrum.bt.co.uk | Birmingham | Eric ??? - Python | +-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-+
slfields@uokmax.uucp (Scott L Fields) (05/03/90)
I am curious to know if the bridgeboard can boot off an amiga hard drive. does anyone out in netland know more about this. I don't care so much about perfor- mance as much as I mind buying a second hard drive for the PC side. I know I can mount a external drive after booting off a floppy but is there a way to boot it for the amiga side? Huh Huh Huh.....PLEASE?
terry@helios.ucsc.edu (Terry Ricketts) (05/03/90)
In article <1990May2.192405.11329@uokmax.uucp> slfields@uokmax.uucp (Scott L Fields) writes: >I am curious to know if the bridgeboard can boot off an amiga hard drive. does >anyone out in netland know more about this. I don't care so much about perfor- >mance as much as I mind buying a second hard drive for the PC side. I know I >can mount a external drive after booting off a floppy but is there a way to >boot it for the amiga side? Huh Huh Huh.....PLEASE? Yes there is a way. The new Janus allows you to create an Amigados file which can be used by the bridgeboard as a bootable (or not bootable if you prefer) drive. There is a program on the Janus disk called 'MakeAB' which will format that 'file' to simulate any hard disk you can imagine. It works very nicely. An added advantage is that it is a normal file to AmigaDos and can be backed up, renamed, deleted, etc like any other file. If you have a real hard disk running with the bridgeboard you can also partition it to have an AmigaDos partition which is accessable from the Amiga side. It will be a bit slower in access due to having to pass the data through the bridgeboard. Terry
korczyns@dtoa3.dt.navy.mil (Korczynski) (05/04/90)
In article <1990May2.192405.11329@uokmax.uucp> slfields@uokmax.uucp (Scott L Fields) writes: >I am curious to know if the bridgeboard can boot off an amiga hard drive. does >anyone out in netland know more about this. I don't care so much about perfor- >mance as much as I mind buying a second hard drive for the PC side. I know I >can mount a external drive after booting off a floppy but is there a way to >boot it for the amiga side? Huh Huh Huh.....PLEASE? Yes it is possible to autoboot the BridgeBoard PC from an Amiga hard drive. I believe you need version 2.0 of the Janus software, because that is what I am using. 1.) Go to partition where you want the PC hard drive to be. 2.) Use the 'MakeAB' command to generate a file which simulates the PC hard drive. 3.) In the PC/Systems drawer create a file called Aboot.CTRL which states the complete path name where the psuedo PC hard drive (file) exists (i.e. dh3:pchd) where pchd is the file created using MakeAB I think that will do it.
n350bq@tamuts.tamu.edu (Duane Fields) (11/04/90)
Will the Commodore XT Bridgeboard work 100% with the 3000????? What of the 5 1/4 drive it comes with, does that have an external case or is it purely internal??? Thanks! P.S. who was the guy (gal) with the Bridgeboard for sale????
millerje@holst.cs.colostate.edu (jeffrey scott miller) (11/10/90)
Here are some questions that, it seems, nobody around here can answer about the AT bridgeboard. Hopefully, someone in NETLAND has one and can answer. 1. Which slots (in a 2000) are taken up by the installation of the bridge- board? An amiga slot? An AT slot? One of each? 2. If I wanted to add external monitor (in conjunction with the bridgeboard) for VGA capabilities, could I just pop in an IBM VGA card and add a VGA monitor? Would this work? 3. What type of IBM cards will work well with the bridgeboard? What about something like the ADLIB or SOUNDBLASTER music cards? many thanks - please reply in EMAIL _____________________________________________________________________________ | | | "NUKE THE UNBORN GAY WHALES!" | Jeff Miller | | - graffiti | millerje@handel.CS.ColoState.Edu | |_____________________________________________________________________________|
millerje@holst.cs.colostate.edu (jeffrey scott miller) (11/27/90)
Here are three replies that were recieved in reply to my questions about the AT bridgeboard. They are distributed exactly as I recieved them. - Jeff --- Received: from holst.cs.colostate.edu by handel; Mon, 12 Nov 90 15:22:30 mst Return-Path: <lcline@sequent.com> Received: from [138.95.18.1] by holst.cs.colostate.edu (5.58/SMI-DDN) id AA07128; Mon, 12 Nov 90 15:20:37 MST Received: from crg8.sequent.com by gateway.sequent.com (5.61/1.34) id AA20226; Mon, 12 Nov 90 14:22:49 -0800 Received: by crg8.sequent.com (5.61/1.34) id AA11340; Mon, 12 Nov 90 14:24:37 -0800 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 14:24:37 -0800 From: Larry Cline <lcline@sequent.com> Message-Id: <9011122224.AA11340@crg8.sequent.com> To: millerje@holst.CS.ColoState.Edu (jeffrey scott miller) In-Reply-To: millerje@holst.cs.colostate.edu's message of 9 Nov 90 22:09:04 GMT Subject: bridgeboard Here are some questions that, it seems, nobody around here can answer about the AT bridgeboard. Hopefully, someone in NETLAND has one and can answer. 1. Which slots (in a 2000) are taken up by the installation of the bridge- board? An amiga slot? An AT slot? One of each? Because of the daughterboard on the AT Bridgeboard the installation takes up 2 slots. Whether they include the other AT slot or the next Amiga slot depends on which where they are installed. 2. If I wanted to add external monitor (in conjunction with the bridgeboard) for VGA capabilities, could I just pop in an IBM VGA card and add a VGA monitor? Would this work? Yes, you can install a VGA card and it will work. I recommend getting one of the cards listed in the 2286 manual since they have been tested by CBM. You also have to set up PCPrefs to turn off the normal Amiga output to the windows. A lot of confusion occurs when people first do this because they can see the IBM side but can't type in it. In order to enter the IBM side you must have one of the console windows open and active on the Amiga side. I usually just activate the PCMono window for this. 3. What type of IBM cards will work well with the bridgeboard? What about something like the ADLIB or SOUNDBLASTER music cards? Most cards should work fine with the Bridgeboards. The ones that don't tend to be ones that access COM2 which I believe CBM has taken the interupts for their own use. many thanks - please reply in EMAIL Larry Cline lcline@sequent.sequent.com --- Received: from uunet.uu.net by handel; Mon, 12 Nov 90 22:19:23 mst Return-Path: <smosjc!brett@uunet.UU.NET> Received: from smosjc.UUCP by uunet.uu.net (5.61/1.14) with UUCP id AA21266; Tue, 13 Nov 90 00:19:36 -0500 Received: by smosjc.smos.COM (5.59/LAI-3.1) id AA20808; Mon, 12 Nov 90 21:02:25 PST Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 21:02:25 PST From: smosjc!brett@uunet.UU.NET (Brett Coon) Message-Id: <9011130502.AA20808@smosjc.smos.COM> To: uunet!handel.CS.ColoState.Edu!millerje@uunet.UU.NET Subject: AT Bridgeboards The AT Bridgeboard takes up both an Amiga slot and a PC slot. As a result, it has to be placed in one of the two positions where these slots overlap. Yes, you can just drop in a graphics card (VGA or other) and connect it to a monitor and it will work. The Bridgeboard manual lists some cards that are guaranteed to work, but in general anything that works on a real AT will work on an AT Bridgeboard. The only thing to keep in mind is that Amigas are only shipped with 2 AT slots; the other two slots are 8-bit XT slots. Since the Bridgeboard itself takes up one slot, that leaves room for 1 AT add-in card. If you want, the Amiga motherboard is designed to allow you to solder in 2 additional connectors to convert the XT slots to AT slots, but that takes a little extra work. According to the Bridgeboard manual, most PC cards will work fine. About the only source of problems is the interrupts used by the PC-Amiga connection. Apparently some accellerator cards use the same interrupts and hence won't work with Bridgeboards. Other than this, I've never heard of any problems. The only add-in card I've used is a serial port card, and I had no problems. Now, if I've convinced you that the AT Bridgeboard is awesome, I just happen to be selling mine. Seriously. Everything I've said above is true, I just have decided that I have more use for a laptop than a Bridgeboard, so I'm selling mine (or trading for a laptop). If you're interested, I'm asking $900 or best offer, and I'll even throw in that serial card (I forgot to mention it in my post to comp.sys.amiga). -brett |Brett Coon | uunet!smosjc!brett | |S-MOS Systems, Inc. | "You like 'em, anchovies?" | |San Jose, CA | -Runaway Train | --- Received: from holst.cs.colostate.edu by handel; Mon, 12 Nov 90 10:47:24 mst Return-Path: <eos.ericsson.se!Tommy.Petersson@ericom.ericsson.se> Received: from [192.36.125.2] by holst.cs.colostate.edu (5.58/SMI-DDN) id AA03591; Mon, 12 Nov 90 10:45:28 MST Received: by sunic.sunet.se (5.61+IDA/KTH/LTH/1.162) id AAsunic03386; Mon, 12 Nov 90 18:47:42 +0100 Received: from eos.ericsson.se by ericom.ericsson.se (4.1/SMI-4.0-ERICOM1.4 ) id AA16558; Mon, 12 Nov 90 18:19:09 +0100 Received: from eos5c08.ericsson.se by eos.ericsson.se (4.0/SMI-4.0.2) id AA23327; Mon, 12 Nov 90 18:19:06 +0100 Received: by eos5c08.ericsson.se (4.0/SMI-4.0.2) id AA08786; Mon, 12 Nov 90 18:19:00 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Nov 90 18:19:00 +0100 Message-Id: <9011121719.AA08786@eos5c08.ericsson.se> To: millerje@holst.CS.ColoState.Edu From: Tommy.Petersson@eos.ericsson.se Subject: Re: bridgeboard Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga In-Reply-To: <11090@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU> Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB Cc: Tommy.Petersson@eos.ericsson.se In article <11090@ccncsu.ColoState.EDU> you write: >Here are some questions that, it seems, nobody around here can answer about >the AT bridgeboard. Hopefully, someone in NETLAND has one and can answer. > >1. Which slots (in a 2000) are taken up by the installation of the bridge- > board? An amiga slot? An AT slot? One of each? The bridgeboard is the bridge between the Amiga part and the PC part, so it installs in one of each. You can choose one of two places, depending on how many Amiga/PC slots You need. The two PC slots on the far left (seen from front of machine) can easily be made into At slots (soldering of sockets). > >2. If I wanted to add external monitor (in conjunction with the bridgeboard) > for VGA capabilities, could I just pop in an IBM VGA card and add a VGA > monitor? Would this work? Yes. You can then run in parallell on the two monitors. Just make the PC window that always (?) shows up on the Amiga side as small as possible to make it slow down as little as possible. One MultiScan monitor and switching of the monitor cable between the VGA card and the Amiga is also possible (9-23 pin adaptor necessary). >3. What type of IBM cards will work well with the bridgeboard? What about > something like the ADLIB or SOUNDBLASTER music cards? > Most cards that don't use the same interrupts as the Amiga/PC communications will work. (Most 386 accelerators don't work because of this). >many thanks - please reply in EMAIL > _____________________________________________________________________________ >| | >| "NUKE THE UNBORN GAY WHALES!" | Jeff Miller | >| - graffiti | millerje@handel.CS.ColoState.Edu | >|_____________________________________________________________________________|