pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic) (11/12/90)
Hi, while looking around in my local Amiga dealer (NOCOPRO in Willoughby,
Ohio) I found an interesting piece of advertisement put together by them
that lists how the Amiga is used in business. Here it is:
* Lucasfilms Graphic Co. uses the Amiga for all pre-production work.
* The Los Angeles Airport uses it for an information kiosk.
* Disney World uses hundreds of them for controlling animated displays.
* Over 800 cable television stations use Amigas for the Preview Channel,
video-titling, genlock and production work. (the largest market share).
* CNN Weather is done entirely on the Amiga along with many local weather
broadcasts.
* Entertainers such as B.B. King, Milli Vanilli, and Frank Zappa find it
invaluable.
* Wyse Advertising uses them for page layout/brochure creation.
* The Houston Police Department uses them to produce training videos.
* Joe Robbie Stadium's animated scoreboard in Miami is run by Amiga Computers.
* Robocop II's special effects were done on an Amiga.
* The French Government uses them for driving simulators.
* The Lynx game system's software is developed on the Amiga.
* They are used abundantly by Ohio State University, Harvard, MIT, UCLA, to
name a few.
* Atlanta's presentation to the National Olympic Committe was done using
an Amiga (an IBM PS/2, NEXT, or Macintosh couldn't handle it).
* Universal Studios creates display graphics and animation in video with it.
* The Province of Alberta, Government Telephone System uses 600 of them in
coordinating their telephone system.
* Strategic Defense Organization headquarters uses them for missile attack/
defense simulation.
* UCLA School of Medicine uses them to study human body motion, and also to
combine different imaging technologies into a comprehensive view of the
human brain.
* Smith-Kettlewel Eye Research Institute in San Francisco uses Amigas in
researching vision, vision equipment, and vision testing.
* The Atomic Energy Commiosion uses them as intelligent front ends to
Cray Supercomputers.
* Used by NBC for Amazing Stories opening scene graphics; used by ABC for
background graphics for Max Headroom.
* Used by ** APPLE COMPUTER ** (Yes, Apple Computer!!) with the Imprint 35mm
slide system for in-house presentation to corporate executives.
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Case Western Reserve University | \\\/// The future is here now!don@brahms.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd) (11/12/90)
Here's another one to add:
Here in Delaware, (the DuPont state), one of the local DuPont plants
has a team which does videos for advertising and training for the entire
corporation. They just bought $30,000+ worth of Amiga equipment from the
local ComputerLand, with training and more equipment to come. Amiga-created
work will soon be circulating through the whole DuPont corp.
The product manager at Computerland, an Amiga owner and vice president
of our user's group, is constantly telling stories about how the AmigaVision
demo they did (along with the help of a freelance video/dtp guy from our
user's group) had the die-hard Mac fanatics in the back of the room cheering
and gasping within five minutes.
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here. DISCLAIMER: It's all YOUR fault.greendog@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Michael D Fischer) (11/13/90)
Here's another one to add: Dow Chemicals in Michigan... they are using it to display weather maps and weather info, stocks, and local news on a closed circuit TV system in their plant... sort of like news displays some local cable channels have. Michael -- ------------------------------------------------------------------------- - Michael D. Fischer | greendog@max.physics.sunysb.edu - - S.U.N.Y. at Stony Brook | mfische@csserv1.ic.sunysb.edu - -------------------------------------------------------------------------
hibrown@cs.albany.edu (Herbert I Brown) (11/13/90)
And here is another AMIGA USER:
The Mathematics Department at The University at Albany has an Amiga
Classroom that it uses for instructional purposes. We have been
offering courses in Calculus, Basic Analysis, Classical Algebra,
Linear Programming & Game Theory, Numerical Analysis, and Statistics.
We are currently beta testing a Calculus Course being developed at
Oregon State University that will be published by PWS Kent.
The students simultaneously interact with the Amiga, the blackboard,
the instructor, and fellow students. It's an exciting venture and
appears to be quite successful.
We have had many visitors through the classroom (during actual class
operation) and they have been quite impressed. This is different from
a laboratory experience. We also have a small lab with Amigas for their
use and we keep the classroom open 6 days from 4:00 to 11:00 pm for
homework, etc.
Herbsparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) (11/13/90)
I know a few of these are not quite right: pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic) writes: >* Robocop II's special effects were done on an Amiga. I remember hearing that the Amiga was not used after all. They used a Mac II instead. >* Used by NBC for Amazing Stories opening scene graphics; No way. I remember seeing how they made those opening graphics. They used super workstations on it, I think a Pixar was used to render the graphics. There was a show on computer animation and graphics that showed this and many other animations were made for TV and movies. Besides, wasn't Amazing Stories B.A.? (Before Amiga) >used by ABC for >background graphics for Max Headroom. They used Amigas for the graphic overlays when showing what was on the camera that whats-his-name (Max's alter ego) was carrying. -- John Sparks |D.I.S.K. Public Access Unix System| Multi-User Games, Email sparks@corpane.UUCP |PH: (502) 968-DISK 24Hrs/2400BPS | Usenet, Chatting, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|7 line Multi-User system. | Downloads & more. A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of----Ogden Nash
specter@disk.UUCP (Byron Max Guernsey) (11/14/90)
In article <3646@corpane.UUCP>, sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes: > I know a few of these are not quite right: > > pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic) writes: > > >* Robocop II's special effects were done on an Amiga. > I remember hearing that the Amiga was not used after all. > They used a Mac II instead. I remember noticing that in the movie Robocop II they substituted a little skull and crossbones for the evil robots little Apple Icon. (The MAcs have a little apple in the corner, but the evil dude in the movie has a little skull and crossbones or something like that). Thats not to say that they didn't include amigas for some background systems? Alot of the graphics in the background could have been any system. But the robot's viewscreen overlays were definately macs. Byron -- / /\ \/ \ /\ |---| /\ / \ |---| /O---------------------------O / / \/ /\ /_/ \_| |-------------------| | / |The Legendary City of Frore| \/ \/\/ \/ /\ \| |/\_______n__/\/\__/\ |/\/ O---------------------------O \ \ \ / \ /-/ \/\__/\/\/ \ \/ \/specter@disk.UUCP Byron Guernsey
seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) (11/16/90)
In-Reply-To: message from pab@po.CWRU.Edu >*Used by ** APPLE COMPUTER ** (Yes, Apple Computer!!) with the Imprint 35mm >slide system for in-house presentation to corporate executives. This should read that they used an Amiga to do an in-house on the Macintosh ][ product development. They're using Macs now, but back then there wasn't any color stuff for the Mac. One you might want to have them put in there also is that the Amiga is product of choice at the Bavarian Motor Works...and you guys always considered the Mac a yuppie machine :) Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .SIG v2.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< UUCP: ...!crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc | B^) VISION GRAPHICS B^) ARPA: !crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc@nosc.mil | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ INET: seanc@pro-party.cts.com | Dual A3000 based, custom Help keep the | computer graphics, RealWorld: Sean Cunningham competition // | animation, presentation, Voice: (512) 992-2810 under \X/ | simulation, accident- | scene re-creation, and "Does anyone remember laughter?" Robert Plant| recreation...(whew!) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
rblewitt@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (Richard Blewitt) (11/17/90)
In article <3646@corpane.UUCP> sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes: >I know a few of these are not quite right: > >pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic) writes: > >>* Robocop II's special effects were done on an Amiga. >I remember hearing that the Amiga was not used after all. >They used a Mac II instead. > No! The Amiga was used. The guy who did this is going to be talking to our users' group soon. Besides, how do you do animation on a Mac, the people who did Disney Animation Studio said they could only get a pathetic 2 frames a second on a Mac :) Rick Blewitt rblewitt@ucsd.edu
liebm@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mark Lieb) (11/17/90)
In article <3646@corpane.UUCP> sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes: >I know a few of these are not quite right: > >pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic) writes: > >>* Robocop II's special effects were done on an Amiga. >I remember hearing that the Amiga was not used after all. >They used a Mac II instead. > A friend of mine is in the video productions field, and after attending a rather large convention where the different hardware companies were selling their machines, and regular video companies where showing their stuff (basic "hire us!" set-ups), that the Amiga was a major shower. Most of displays were using Amigas for video effects of all sorts. He said that he did see the Amiga doing special effect excepts from Robocop II. Adding to the tid-bit, it is interesting to note that the Amiga is the computer most companies in the video field (of which there are hundreds) are using. I will write my friend a letter via Bitnet and ask him to write a short bit, so I don't give any incorrect or misleading info. >-- >John Sparks |D.I.S.K. Public Access Unix System| Multi-User Games, Email >sparks@corpane.UUCP |PH: (502) 968-DISK 24Hrs/2400BPS | Usenet, Chatting, >=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|7 line Multi-User system. | Downloads & more. >A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of----Ogden Nash Mark Lieb /\\ _ __ ___ /\\ \\ \ \ \ \ / \\ |\/|| | | //___ / \\ \\ \ \ \ \ / /\ \\ |\/|| _| |_ \\_// / /\ \\ \\_\__\____\________\ \_liebm@silver.ucs.indiana.edu_// // / / / /
amiga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paul) (11/18/90)
I have seen quite a few of the animaations from RoboCop II run on the amiga. They were developed and produced totaly on the amiga! -- Amiga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu .....Paul...... Listen to what I mean, not what I say.
C503719@UMCVMB.MISSOURI.EDU (Baird McIntosh) (11/18/90)
In Message-ID: <14233@sdcc6.ucsd.edu>
rblewitt@sdcc6.ucsd.edu (Richard Blewitt) said:
>In article <3646@corpane.UUCP> sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes:
>
>[ discussing whether RoboCop II computer effects were done on an Amiga ]
>
>>I remember hearing that the Amiga was not used after all.
>>They used a Mac II instead.
>>
>No! The Amiga was used. The guy who did this is going to be talking
>to our users' group soon. Besides, how do you do animation on a
>Mac, the people who did Disney Animation Studio said they could only
>get a pathetic 2 frames a second on a Mac :)
Hey, guys!? What about that issue of INFO (before the name change) which
was the last issue before they started the summer of 90. The cover article
was on how the Amiga *was used* for the RoboCop II effects. I don't have the
article here, but if this thread is still around when I return from
Thanksgiving break, I can tell you my findings.
BTW, I haven't seen RoboCop II; is it out on VHS yet?
| Baird McIntosh | c503719@umcvmb.missouri.edu <-or-> c503719@umcvmb.bitnet |
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| (Light deactivation method is unimportant; just try to appear oblivious.) |kws1x@dale.acc.Virginia.EDU (Kenneth W. Smith Jr) (11/19/90)
In article <39879@ut-emx.uucp> amiga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paul) writes: >I have seen quite a few of the animaations from RoboCop II run on the amiga. >They were developed and produced totaly on the amiga! > > >-- >Amiga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu .....Paul...... > >Listen to what I mean, not what I say. While anxiously awaiting the arrival of RoboCop II in the theatres, I read the Info articles and others about how the Ami was going to be used for some of the animation, etc, etc. Being a rabid, avid, religious Amiga fan, I went to see the movie primarily to try to spot the scenes containing said animation. (The movie was good, too. :-) I spotted several scenes where I was willing to gamble about whether the Ami was used or not. However, at the end of the movie, there was NO mention at all of the Amiga. Nothing. (I am also an avid credit watcher. Remember that guy in the theatre who cheered when Dick Warlock's name appeared under "Stunts" in the credits of the last action movie you went to see? That was me...:-) Apple computers was mentioned and/or thanked. I shuddered. Can anyone with that issue of Info (I said I read the articles; I didn't say I owned the magazine...:-) post or e-mail to me the name of the production company that supposedly used the Ami for animation in the movie? When I see the movie again (Viva la Video Revolution!), I want to see if their name appears in the credits. K W Smith, Jr. The Charlottesvile Sector +--------------------------------------------------------+ | "But it's only a toilet seat!" | | "Oh, no. It is much more. It is a means | | to summon us!" | | -Quotes from Clive Barker's little | | known film: "LIDRAISER" | +--------------------------------------------------------+
spenser@sugar.hackercorp.com (Spenser Aden) (11/19/90)
In article <72389@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu> liebm@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mark Lieb) writes: >In article <3646@corpane.UUCP> sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) writes: >>I know a few of these are not quite right: >> >>pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic) writes: >> >>>* Robocop II's special effects were done on an Amiga. >>I remember hearing that the Amiga was not used after all. >>They used a Mac II instead. >> > Most of displays >were using Amigas for video effects of all sorts. He said that he did see >the Amiga doing special effect excepts from Robocop II. > The effects were done on an Amiga at Microsearch computers here in Houston. Without a doubt. We in Houston knew before the movie was released - it was all over the papers and news, if you didn't get it first hand from salesmen at Microsearch. -Spenser S. Spenser Aden (713) 483-2028 |"Flame throwers, go stick your heads NASA - Johnson Space Center, Houston | in a blast furnace." - Markus Wandel spenser@sugar.hackercorp.com (UUCP) +---------------------------------------- aden@9237.dnet.nasa.gov (Internet) | Only my cats' opinions found herein.
gregw@sugar.hackercorp.com (Greg White) (11/19/90)
John, just a few corrections to your corrections:
..From: sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks @ Corpane Industries Inc., Louisville, KY)
..I know a few of these are not quite right:
....pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic) writes:
....>* Robocop II's special effects were done on an Amiga.
..I remember hearing that the Amiga was not used after all.
..They used a Mac II instead.
No, most of the effects 'filmed' for RoboCopII were done on the Amiga. One of
my clients (MicroSearch Computers) here in Houston did the work. One of their
graphic artists worked on the set creating the graphics and animations
required. In fact the people in Hollywood said that the graphics looked TOO
good to be done on a computer and ask them to 'dirty' them up a little, i.e.
less resolution, more garish colors. However many of the effects were left
on the cutting room floor due to the movie running long. Since many of the
effects were used as fillers and 'bits' unfortunately they were some of the
first to go.
....>* Used by NBC for Amazing Stories opening scene graphics;
..No way. I remember seeing how they made those opening graphics. They used
..super workstations on it, I think a Pixar was used to render the graphics.
..There was a show on computer animation and graphics that showed this and
..many other animations were made for TV and movies. Besides, wasn't Amazing
..Stories B.A.? (Before Amiga)
Altho the Amiga wasn't use on the opening credits, it was used for effects
in many of the shows and computation of camera angles by 3D modeling. This
was detailed in one of the Amiga mags.
....>used by ABC for
....>background graphics for Max Headroom.
..They used Amigas for the graphic overlays when showing what was on
..the camera that whats-his-name (Max's alter ego) was carrying.
You're both right. Note he said the background graphics. He was talking about
the animated background behind Max himself, you know, the moving lines and bars
and patterns.
Also note that the Amiga was used by the group that won the 1996 Olympics for
Atlanta, GA. They used the Amiga to drive the MultiMedia presentation to the
judges of the Olympic committee. They first used a MAC II, but said the
requirements "brought the MAC to its knees."
Greg Whitejet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J. Eric Townsend) (11/20/90)
In article <7080@sugar.hackercorp.com> gregw@sugar.hackercorp.com (Greg White) writes: >....>used by ABC for >....>background graphics for Max Headroom. >..They used Amigas for the graphic overlays when showing what was on >..the camera that whats-his-name (Max's alter ego) was carrying. >You're both right. Note he said the background graphics. He was talking about >the animated background behind Max himself, you know, the moving lines and bars >and patterns. Add to that the Network XXIII internal security camera displays, I *think*. I read it in a magazine, so it must be true. :-) -- J. Eric Townsend Internet: jet@uh.edu Bitnet: jet@UHOU Systems Manager - University of Houston Dept. of Mathematics - (713) 749-2120 EastEnders list: eastender@karazm.math.uh.edu Skate UNIX(r)
cosc11is@jetson.uh.edu (Christopher B. Viles) (11/20/90)
> In article <39879@ut-emx.uucp> amiga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paul) writes: > me...:-) Apple computers was mentioned and/or thanked. I shuddered. > Can anyone with that issue of Info (I said I read the articles; I didn't say > I owned the magazine...:-) post or e-mail to me the name of the production > company that supposedly used the Ami for animation in the movie? When I > see the movie again (Viva la Video Revolution!), I want to see if their > name appears in the credits. The Amiga is not mentioned anywhere in the credits (I also stay to watch those sometimes, too). However, Microsearch (at the time, the amiga dealer here in Houston) was mentioned as providing the computer graphics for the film. The only reason Apple was mentioned was the producers got Apple's permission to use the "look and feel" of Macintosh in the film. (So that's why Robo II lost! He was run by a Macintosh! :) Rather than risk a law suit, they got permission and Apple probably said you must mention our computer in the credits.
seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) (11/20/90)
In-Reply-To: message from sparks@corpane.UUCP The only thing they used a Mac for in RC2 was for the view from the evil RoboCop. Not his face, but for his "menus" and targeting system (yawn). The opening animation for Amazing Stories was done by Robert Abel and Assoc., and they, like most of their like, used Silicon Graphics workstations...but they also later used Amigas for other work. I'm sorry to say that they aren't around anymore. During the production of the series, Amigas were used for overlays. But in the Max Headroom Coke commercials, Amigas were used to generate Max's backgrounds as well. Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .SIG v2.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< UUCP: ...!crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc | B^) VISION GRAPHICS B^) ARPA: !crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc@nosc.mil | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ INET: seanc@pro-party.cts.com | Dual A3000 based, custom Help keep the | computer graphics, RealWorld: Sean Cunningham competition // | animation, presentation, Voice: (512) 992-2810 under \X/ | simulation, accident- | scene re-creation, and "Does anyone remember laughter?" Robert Plant| recreation...(whew!) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
wdieteri@wrdis03.af.mil (William Dieterich) (11/20/90)
>>pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic) writes: >> >>>* Robocop II's special effects were done on an Amiga. >>I remember hearing that the Amiga was not used after all. >>They used a Mac II instead. The graphics ere done by and Amiga, the only time they did not use an Amiga was when they were "Reprogramming" Robocop. Here they used a SUN station with a standard UNIX graphic demo. According to the person doing the graphics this was done because they wanted something different and they had that demo around.
deh@franklin.ee.umr.edu (Dave Harris) (11/22/90)
In article <1990Nov11.183212.18785@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic) writes: > >broadcasts. >* Entertainers such as B.B. King, Milli Vanilli, and Frank Zappa find it ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >invaluable. *Now* we know who did the vocals! The Amiga deserves the Emmy! -- David E. Harris, University of Missouri -- Rolla| /// Only Amiga! Internet: deh@ee.umr.edu (preferred) | __ /// Bitnet: c2983oe@umrvmb.bitnet | \\\/// "IBM? Is that Amiga Voicenet: (314) 341-4678 (Most afternoons) | \XX/ compatible?"
seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) (11/22/90)
In-Reply-To: message from cosc11is@jetson.uh.edu I remember the Robocop II discussion from a while back (when it came out at the theatres). Everyone freaked when they saw the Apple credit, and assumed that the display of the evil RC was done on a mac...not what he saw, but the 3D face. In case this comes up again in this "rediscussion," the face was generated on a Silicon Graphics Iris, from 3D laser scans of the actors head. It was then animated, puppet-style, in realtime. Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .SIG v2.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< UUCP: ...!crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc | B^) VISION GRAPHICS B^) ARPA: !crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc@nosc.mil | ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ INET: seanc@pro-party.cts.com | Dual A3000 based, custom Help keep the | computer graphics, RealWorld: Sean Cunningham competition // | animation, presentation, Voice: (512) 992-2810 under \X/ | simulation, accident- | scene re-creation, and "Does anyone remember laughter?" Robert Plant| recreation...(whew!) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
Steve.Palm@f16.n11.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Steve Palm) (11/28/90)
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BM> was on how the Amiga *was used* for the RoboCop II effects. I don't have
Yes. I had the magazine long before I had seen the movie... It describes
a neat sequence that never made it in the movie... At least not the movie
that was shown at our theatre here!
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