cmw1725@tamsun.tamu.edu (Christopher Walton) (12/02/90)
In reply to the guy who was inquiring if it was true that the IBM would soon have a MAC emulator like Amax II for the Amiga, well a lot of people said, NO!, and that it was not possible with a ?86 based computer without puting a 68000 on board, well however it needs to be done, I suppose they did it, beacuse I just watched "Computer Chronicles" a while ago, and they had a news bit about a new computer made by a CLONE maker that is billed as the PC/MAC! It was a laptop with a VGA 386 built in as well as a MAC. The price was very steep though, $10,000! No kidding! They didn't show it running anything, so it might be really crappy, someone who knows please tell me if it was true, though I don't know why you would want one, when you can have an A3000, with a 386 bridgeboard, and Amax II, for LESS! Oh well.... Christopher Walton cmw1725@tamsun.tamu.edu
bleys@tronsbox.xei.com (Bill Cavanaugh) (12/03/90)
>NO!, and that it was not possible with a ?86 based computer without puting >a 68000 on board, well however it needs to be done, I suppose they did it, >beacuse I just watched "Computer Chronicles" a while ago, and they had a >news bit about a new computer made by a CLONE maker that is billed as the >PC/MAC! It was a laptop with a VGA 386 built in as well as a MAC. The I don't remember the name of the company, but they DID put a 68000 in that box.
JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) (12/03/90)
A PC/MAC for $10,000?? Heck, for that price, you could have separate
'386, Mac IIsi, and A3000 units, with lots of software thrown in to boot!
Kurt
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-----------------------------------------------------------------------don@brahms.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd) (12/03/90)
In article <2759590c-3672.1comp.sys.amiga-1@tronsbox.xei.com> bleys@tronsbox.xei.com (Bill Cavanaugh) writes: >>NO!, and that it was not possible with a ?86 based computer without puting >>a 68000 on board, well however it needs to be done, I suppose they did it, >>beacuse I just watched "Computer Chronicles" a while ago, and they had a >>news bit about a new computer made by a CLONE maker that is billed as the >>PC/MAC! It was a laptop with a VGA 386 built in as well as a MAC. The > >I don't remember the name of the company, but they DID put a 68000 in that >box. The laptop you're both probably referring to is based on the Sparc RISC chipset; I don't think there's any other processor in there to do the emulation; it's all SW based. It can run DOS, UNIX, and Mac stuff (via a reverse-engineered clone of the Mac ROMs?). -- Gibberish Amiga 3000 owner/fanatic is spoken Contact don@brahms.udel.edu for more information. here. DISCLAIMER: It's all YOUR fault.
coxc0011@ucselx.sdsu.edu (David Tse) (12/03/90)
cmw1725@tamsun.tamu.edu (Christopher Walton) writes: >In reply to the guy who was inquiring if it was true that the IBM would soon >have a MAC emulator like Amax II for the Amiga, well a lot of people said, >NO!, and that it was not possible with a ?86 based computer without puting >a 68000 on board, well however it needs to be done, I suppose they did it, >beacuse I just watched "Computer Chronicles" a while ago, and they had a >news bit about a new computer made by a CLONE maker that is billed as the >PC/MAC! It was a laptop with a VGA 386 built in as well as a MAC. The >price was very steep though, $10,000! No kidding! They didn't show it >running anything, so it might be really crappy, someone who knows please >tell me if it was true, though I don't know why you would want one, when >you can have an A3000, with a 386 bridgeboard, and Amax II, for LESS! >Oh well.... >Christopher Walton >cmw1725@tamsun.tamu.edu It is a RISC based laptop which emulates 80x86 and 68000 with their own software made by a San Diego based company. Info obtained from an industry weekly. It also runs UNIX/X window. It claims it doesn't have a legal problem with Apple on their emulation of Mac, didn't say how. It is not selling yet. David -- /*****************************************************************************/ /* David Tse Internet: coxc0011@ucselx.sdsu.edu (expire 12/31/90) */ /* U.S. Mail: P.O. Box 15634, San Diego, CA 92175-0634, USA */ /* Organisation: San Diego State University, California, USA */
jtreworgy@eagle.wesleyan.edu (12/04/90)
In article <10569@helios.TAMU.EDU>, cmw1725@tamsun.tamu.edu (Christopher Walton) writes: > In reply to the guy who was inquiring if it was true that the IBM would soon > have a MAC emulator like Amax II for the Amiga, well a lot of people said, > NO!, and that it was not possible with a ?86 based computer without puting > a 68000 on board, well however it needs to be done, I suppose they did it, > beacuse I just watched "Computer Chronicles" a while ago, and they had a > news bit about a new computer made by a CLONE maker that is billed as the > PC/MAC! It was a laptop with a VGA 386 built in as well as a MAC. The > price was very steep though, $10,000! No kidding! They didn't show it > running anything, so it might be really crappy, someone who knows please > tell me if it was true, though I don't know why you would want one, when > you can have an A3000, with a 386 bridgeboard, and Amax II, for LESS! Sounds like what we've got here is a PC and a MAC in one box. I am certain that such a beast has one of each type processor, and all the auxiliary hardware associated with each (this seems to be confirmed by the price tag). But regardless a 80x86 emulating a 68000 is a virtual impossibility at any semblance of the original speed of the processor. Their architechtures are too different. > Christopher Walton > > cmw1725@tamsun.tamu.edu -- James A. Treworgy -- No quote here for insurance reasons -- jtreworgy@eagle.wesleyan.edu jtreworgy%eagle@WESLEYAN.BITNET
etxtomp@eos.ericsson.se (Tommy Petersson) (12/04/90)
In article <1990Dec3.115109.36391@eagle.wesleyan.edu> jtreworgy@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes: -In article <10569@helios.TAMU.EDU>, cmw1725@tamsun.tamu.edu (Christopher Walton) writes: -> In reply to the guy who was inquiring if it was true that the IBM would soon -> have a MAC emulator like Amax II for the Amiga, well a lot of people said, -> NO!, and that it was not possible with a ?86 based computer without puting -> a 68000 on board, well however it needs to be done, I suppose they did it, -> beacuse I just watched "Computer Chronicles" a while ago, and they had a -> news bit about a new computer made by a CLONE maker that is billed as the -> PC/MAC! It was a laptop with a VGA 386 built in as well as a MAC. The -> price was very steep though, $10,000! No kidding! They didn't show it -> running anything, so it might be really crappy, someone who knows please -> tell me if it was true, though I don't know why you would want one, when -> you can have an A3000, with a 386 bridgeboard, and Amax II, for LESS! - -Sounds like what we've got here is a PC and a MAC in one box. I am certain that -such a beast has one of each type processor, and all the auxiliary hardware -associated with each (this seems to be confirmed by the price tag). But -regardless a 80x86 emulating a 68000 is a virtual impossibility at any -semblance of the original speed of the processor. Their architechtures are too -different. - -> Christopher Walton -> -> cmw1725@tamsun.tamu.edu --- -James A. Treworgy -- No quote here for insurance reasons -- -jtreworgy@eagle.wesleyan.edu jtreworgy%eagle@WESLEYAN.BITNET It could also be the announced BriteLite Portable Computer, with a SPARC processor and 8086/68000 emulation in software. It's not due out soon, seems more like they are testing the market to see if there is enough interest for it to be interesting to produce (at that steep price). Tommy Petersson