andrewsr@romulus.rutgers.edu (Rich Andrews) (12/10/90)
Hello All. For the past month or so I have dropped by a couple of Amiga dealers in my area. I have been very disappointed with their "demos". So, I have decided to bring a small set of PD software with me to each of the places that I visited and a) teach the dealer how to use them, and b) give them to the dealer. I will bring along a complete listing of the Fish disks, my phone number, and a number/address of the nearest users group. (I mean really, one of the dealers I went to had 2 things to show on his 3000: Dpaint and the animation given by C=). I want to develop a small set of high quality demos. Question: What programs are *necessary* to this set? One of my picks is Fish 196 with the stunning HAM pictures. I also like the game Drip and the on-line fish list Aquarium. (If you could only show 1-3 animations, which ones would they be?) One of the strong points of the Amiga is its user base. Lets get the word out. Thanks, -Rich -- // Rich | "If there is nothing wrong with me, then maybe there is \X/ Andrews | something wrong with the universe." - B. Crusher STTNG
duck@engin.umich.edu (Ho Han Chyi Howard) (12/10/90)
In article <Dec.9.12.33.50.1990.1340@romulus.rutgers.edu>, andrewsr@romulus.rutgers.edu (Rich Andrews) writes: |> Hello All. |> |> For the past month or so I have dropped by a couple of Amiga dealers |> in my area. I have been very disappointed with their "demos". |> |> I want to develop a small set of high quality demos. Question: What |> programs are *necessary* to this set? Well, We had a demo about a month ago on Campus and among the things demoed, we had a machine with Intuitracker in the background playing modules and a Sculpt 3D anim running in front. We also had AmigaVision demoing a presentation. Equipment: Intuitracker can be gotten at abcfd20.larc.nasa.gov along with the 40+ modulefiles(music) in /incoming/amiga/NoiseTracker-Modules Animations? look around. Many of the nice ones I got from the same place. ie abcfd20.larc.nasa.gov AmigaVision -> C= BTW: You'll need to put these on a hard drive. Also intuitracker might not work on a 3000. Works funny on a 2500. ******************************************************************************* * * * Name: Ho Han Chyi Howard ******** * * Address: 1309 S. University Apt #1 *** ******* * * Ann Arbor, MI 48104 *** ***** * * Telephone: local (313)996-1875 (| o o |) * * remote 0-11-65-253-2503 | ^ | * * (Singpore.Equator.SE-Asia.World) \ _ / * * eMail: duck@caen.engin.umich.edu \ / * * 6VBN@ub.cc.umich.edu --- * * * *******************************************************************************
n368bq@tamuts.tamu.edu (Raoul Rodriguez) (12/10/90)
From: andrewsr@romulus.rutgers.edu (Rich Andrews)
Rich Andrews writes:
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Hello All.
For the past month or so I have dropped by a couple of Amiga dealers
in my area. I have been very disappointed with their "demos".
So, I have decided to bring a small set of PD software with me to each
of the places that I visited and a) teach the dealer how to use them,
and b) give them to the dealer. I will bring along a complete listing
of the Fish disks, my phone number, and a number/address of the
nearest users group.
(I mean really, one of the dealers I went to had 2 things to show on
his 3000: Dpaint and the animation given by C=).
I want to develop a small set of high quality demos. Question: What
programs are *necessary* to this set?
One of my picks is Fish 196 with the stunning HAM pictures. I also
like the game Drip and the on-line fish list Aquarium.
(If you could only show 1-3 animations, which ones would they be?)
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The walker demo, the Dream goes berserk, and Newtek Demo reel 3
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One of the strong points of the Amiga is its user base. Lets get the
word out.
Thanks,
-Rich
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// Rich | "If there is nothing wrong with me, then maybe there is
\X/ Andrews | something wrong with the universe." - B. Crusher STTNG
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Great idea rich, but, the only real problem I have with this that that
users will have to constantly check on the dealers to make sure that they
are properly presenting the Amiga, I too have gone to a dealer where their
amigas just sat idle why the salespeople know nothing about the machine
Unfortunantly it is rampant everywhere. This isn't to say that there are
not really good dealers out there, it is just that there are more bad
ones than anything else. Also unfortuanantly, this not the users problem
to correct (although we could, it would take a nationwide effort to do
(which I would gladly join in order to get the Amiga recognized)), I think
this is all C='s responsibility to discover and correct.
Although I think a lot of dealer's need a quick kick in the pants by the
users.....
C=, YOU NEED TO FIX YOU DEALERS, AND QUICKLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Raoul Rodriguez
"People may not believe what you say, but they will always believe what
you do"peterk@cbmger.UUCP (Peter Kittel GERMANY) (12/10/90)
In article <Dec.9.12.33.50.1990.1340@romulus.rutgers.edu> andrewsr@romulus.rutgers.edu (Rich Andrews) writes: > >One of my picks is Fish 196 with the stunning HAM pictures. Yeah, ultimate choice. I love to demo the Amiga, too, and still. I love to do this very theatrically (sp?) by starting with simple things like showing "normal" IFF pictures, drawn/ray-traced/digitized (to show all these ways to create a picture with an Amiga), then just demonstrate Preferences with all the nice tools for color adjustment and pointer definition, and, and,... When it comes to animation, I still like the old Fields demo, but there are newer ones existing now (e.g. those by me :-). You see, all these things mentioned up to now are relatively small files, you can put many of them on one disk. Then for a real big animation, there's Walker (but this is only suitable for an installed HD), also good-ole Juggler is always suitable. And for sound, you again can show different ways to produce it, either with real notes through Sonix or with some digitized sound (I love that alarm clock with that cry from a Fish disk, sounds like the cry in Impossible Mission). -- Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel // E-Mail to \\ Only my personal opinions... Commodore Frankfurt, Germany \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
dvljhg@cs.umu.se (J|rgen Holmberg) (12/10/90)
In article <Dec.9.12.33.50.1990.1340@romulus.rutgers.edu> andrewsr@romulus.rutgers.edu (Rich Andrews) writes: >Hello All. > >For the past month or so I have dropped by a couple of Amiga dealers >in my area. I have been very disappointed with their "demos". > >So, I have decided to bring a small set of PD software with me to each >of the places that I visited and a) teach the dealer how to use them, >and b) give them to the dealer. I will bring along a complete listing >of the Fish disks, my phone number, and a number/address of the >nearest users group. > >(I mean really, one of the dealers I went to had 2 things to show on >his 3000: Dpaint and the animation given by C=). > This is a good idea BUT... I have done what you suggest, giving dealers easy to use demos for the amiga showing off sound and graphics mainly. The dealers use them a couple of times and then they let the machine show off the workbench hand again :-(. It is certainly worth a shot but don't expect too much. Dealers in general know nothing or less about what they sell and are only interested in getting their pay and go home. >I want to develop a small set of high quality demos. Question: What >programs are *necessary* to this set? > >One of my picks is Fish 196 with the stunning HAM pictures. I also >like the game Drip and the on-line fish list Aquarium. > >(If you could only show 1-3 animations, which ones would they be?) > The best animations I have seen don't work on 680x0 machines, Sorry. >One of the strong points of the Amiga is its user base. Lets get the >word out. > I try, I try :-) /Jorgen -- ******************************************************************************* email dvljhg@cs.umu.se - other ways to communicate are a waste of time. Everything I say is always true, just apply it to the right reality. "Credo, quia absurdum est."
kws1x@dale.acc.Virginia.EDU (Kenneth W. Smith Jr) (12/11/90)
In article <1990Dec10.123814.20267@cs.umu.se> dvljhg@cs.umu.se (J|rgen Holmberg) writes: >In article <Dec.9.12.33.50.1990.1340@romulus.rutgers.edu> andrewsr@romulus.rutgers.edu (Rich Andrews) writes: >>Hello All. >> >>For the past month or so I have dropped by a couple of Amiga dealers >>in my area. I have been very disappointed with their "demos". >> >>So, I have decided to bring a small set of PD software with me to each >>of the places that I visited and a) teach the dealer how to use them, >>and b) give them to the dealer. I will bring along a complete listing >>of the Fish disks, my phone number, and a number/address of the >>nearest users group. >> >>(I mean really, one of the dealers I went to had 2 things to show on >>his 3000: Dpaint and the animation given by C=). >> > >This is a good idea BUT... I have done what you suggest, giving dealers easy >to use demos for the amiga showing off sound and graphics mainly. The dealers >use them a couple of times and then they let the machine show off the >workbench hand again :-(. It is certainly worth a shot but don't expect too >much. Dealers in general know nothing or less about what they sell and are >only interested in getting their pay and go home. > All too true. I drove 2 hours to my nearest C= dealer after calling about KS 2.02 for my A3000 only to be brushed off by one of the salespeople with an unfriendly, "No, we don't have it. We lost the disk." >>(If you could only show 1-3 animations, which ones would they be?) >> > >The best animations I have seen don't work on 680x0 machines, Sorry. > Of all of the anims/demos that I have gotten from the Net, only Walker2 has not worked (not enough memory...sigh...:) NewTek demos 1&3 work under 1.3 on the A3000, Charon is one of the most beautiful anims I have ever seen on this machine, and, of course, the Juggler really blows people's minds! I think your idea is great, Rich. Keep on tryin'! K W Smith, Jr. The Charlottesville Sector ******************************************************************************* * "Forgive me, but where would a 6000-year-old Mayan god * * learn to downshift a Toyota?" -Kate T. from _ALF_ * *******************************************************************************