[comp.sys.amiga] Thank you C= Folks!!!

daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) (11/30/90)

In article <39973@ut-emx.uucp> drxmann@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dustin Christmann) writes:

>Not wanting to throw a wet blanket on the festivities, but it's too bad that
>every Amiga owner doesn't have an E-mail account. Then everybody wouldn't 
>bitch and moan in various Amiga rags that C= support sucks. 

Some complaints are probably valid, others are more than likely due to people
trying to get support the wrong way around.  As things like the net, other BBS
systems, magazines, and user groups point out, it's impossible to get 100% of 
the support you, as a computer hobbiest, may want, directly from the parent
company.  Sure, not everyone can have a usenet feed, but everyone can help
propagate the knowledge.  Because usenet is free (intellectually speaking, in
that it's not copyrighted), these postings travel to people who aren't on
usenet, and may occasionally teach them something they can pass on in other
ways.

-- 
Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      PLINK: hazy     BIX: hazy
		      ONLY 50 MILES TO GO

JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) (12/03/90)

In article <16151@cbmvax.commodore.com>, Dave Haynie's .sig quote says:
>
>Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
>   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      PLINK: hazy     BIX: hazy
>                      ONLY 50 MILES TO GO
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
(begin literary interpretation mode)

Might "MILES" be interpreted to mean "days" or "a short period of time"
or "a short distance"?  And then we get to figure out what Dave might
be speaking of....  CDTV?  A3000/UX?  A3500?  All in all, Dave's .sig
file sounds pretty encouraging!   :-)

                                                            Kurt
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billsey@agora.uucp (Bill Seymour) (12/11/90)

In article <90336.212655JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu> JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) writes:
:In article <16151@cbmvax.commodore.com>, Dave Haynie's .sig quote says:
:>
:>Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
:>   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      PLINK: hazy     BIX: hazy
:>                      ONLY 50 MILES TO GO
:                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
:(begin literary interpretation mode)
:
:Might "MILES" be interpreted to mean "days" or "a short period of time"
:or "a short distance"?  And then we get to figure out what Dave might
:be speaking of....  CDTV?  A3000/UX?  A3500?  All in all, Dave's .sig
:file sounds pretty encouraging!   :-)

	And then, all this might be attributed to the fact that Dave just
bought a neat new (fast) car and the breakin period has to crawl by before
he's supposed to 'test' it out? :-)

:                                                            Kurt

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:|| 184 W. Valley Hill Rd.       ||  Apple ]['s....  I use 'em all.     ||
:|| Malvern, PA 19355-2214       ||  (and in that order too!   ;-)      ||
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daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) (12/11/90)

In article <90336.212655JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu> JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) writes:
>In article <16151@cbmvax.commodore.com>, Dave Haynie's .sig quote says:

>>Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
>>   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      PLINK: hazy     BIX: hazy
>>                      ONLY 50 MILES TO GO
>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>(begin literary interpretation mode)

>Might "MILES" be interpreted to mean "days" or "a short period of time"
>or "a short distance"?  

How about "MILES".  I suppose I could have said "KILOMETERS", a more exacting
measurement.

>And then we get to figure out what Dave might be speaking of....  

My new car.  See, I got this great new car, and had a terrible breakin period
to wait through before I could try out the performance.  Frustrating.  You 
wouldn't want to get a shiny new 68030 system, only to find out that you had
to stay below 1 MIPS for the first 300 billion instructions.  But since then,
I have achieved 0-60 in about 6.3 seconds, and I'm working on 138 MPH.

>|| Kurt Tappe   (215) 363-9485  || Amigas, Macs, IBM's, C-64's, NeXTs, ||

-- 
Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      PLINK: hazy     BIX: hazy
		"I can't drive 55"	-Sammy Hagar

n368bq@tamuts.tamu.edu (Raoul Rodriguez) (12/11/90)

In article <16427@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>>>Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
>>>   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      PLINK: hazy     BIX: hazy
>>>                      ONLY 50 MILES TO GO
>>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>And then we get to figure out what Dave might be speaking of....  
>
>My new car.  See, I got this great new car, and had a terrible breakin period
>to wait through before I could try out the performance.  Frustrating.  You 
>wouldn't want to get a shiny new 68030 system, only to find out that you had
>to stay below 1 MIPS for the first 300 billion instructions.  But since then,
>I have achieved 0-60 in about 6.3 seconds, and I'm working on 138 MPH.
>-- 
>Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
>   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      PLINK: hazy     BIX: hazy
>		"I can't drive 55"	-Sammy Hagar


You could buy a Cyclone from General Motors... they put the engine from
a Buick Grand National and put it in a Chevy s-10/Sonoma pickup body
and  incresed the displacement of the engine .5 liters, and viola! A
mucho fast pickup truck.  How fast?  They took it out to the Salt Flats
and "ran it out", and it did 211 mph in the flying mile.  It does 
0-60 in 3.5 seconds.. not bad for a pickup truck... :)


What does this have to do with the Amiga...?  Easy, plug in an Amiga into
the cigarrette lighter... and you have the fastest landbased Amiga this
side of the Cray-YMP emulation board (by C=, $19.95)...

Raoul Rodriguez

"People may not believe what you say, but they will allways believe what
you do."-Unknown   

lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (12/11/90)

In <16427@cbmvax.commodore.com>, daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>In article <90336.212655JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu> JKT100@psuvm.psu.edu (JKT) writes:
>>In article <16151@cbmvax.commodore.com>, Dave Haynie's .sig quote says:
>
>>>Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
>>>   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      PLINK: hazy     BIX: hazy
>>>                      ONLY 50 MILES TO GO
>>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>(begin literary interpretation mode)
>
>>Might "MILES" be interpreted to mean "days" or "a short period of time"
>>or "a short distance"?  
>
>How about "MILES".  I suppose I could have said "KILOMETERS", a more exacting
>measurement.

So.. does this mean that we have hardware based English <-> metric conversion
in the future of the Amiga? Does 'more exacting' mean that we can expect a more
accurate floating point coprocessor for the 68030 based machines?

>>And then we get to figure out what Dave might be speaking of....  
>
>My new car.  See, I got this great new car, ....

Aha! Another unspecified processor coming? Hmmm...

>and had a terrible breakin period to wait through before I could try out the
> performance.  Frustrating. 

New hardware is always like that. Did ye finally get fully debugged silicon?

> You wouldn't want to get a shiny new 68030 system, only to find out that you had
>to stay below 1 MIPS for the first 300 billion instructions.  But since then,
>I have achieved 0-60 in about 6.3 seconds, and I'm working on 138 MPH.

Let's see now... 0-60 in 6.3 seconds... fairly high end, especially for road
cars.. .translating this to SPECmarks.... Hmmm....

-larry

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xrtnt@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Nigel Tzeng) (12/12/90)

In article <16427@cbmvax.commodore.com>, daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes...
^ 
^My new car.  See, I got this great new car, and had a terrible breakin period
^to wait through before I could try out the performance.  Frustrating.  You 
^wouldn't want to get a shiny new 68030 system, only to find out that you had
^to stay below 1 MIPS for the first 300 billion instructions.  But since then,
^I have achieved 0-60 in about 6.3 seconds, and I'm working on 138 MPH.

Okay...this has nothing to do with amigas but I am curious.  Just what car did
you buy Dave?  Also the owner of a new (somewhat fast) car I can attest to the
fact that the breakin period is hell.  I decided that a couple of slow road
trips (and a few laps around the city) were in order to get past that damnable
breaking time.

^ 
^-- 
^Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
^   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      PLINK: hazy     BIX: hazy
^		"I can't drive 55"	-Sammy Hagar

                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Neither can I. ;-)

NT

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Amiga | Standard Disclaimer Applies:  The opinions expressed are my own. 

kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) (12/12/90)

In article <10794@helios.TAMU.EDU> n368bq@tamuts.tamu.edu (Raoul Rodriguez) writes:
>In article <16427@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>>>>   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      PLINK: hazy     BIX: hazy
>>>>                      ONLY 50 MILES TO GO
>>>                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>My new car.  See, I got this great new car, and had a terrible breakin period
>>to wait through before I could try out the performance.  Frustrating.  You 
>>wouldn't want to get a shiny new 68030 system, only to find out that you had
>>to stay below 1 MIPS for the first 300 billion instructions.  But since then,
>>I have achieved 0-60 in about 6.3 seconds, and I'm working on 138 MPH.
>>-- 
>>Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
>>   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      PLINK: hazy     BIX: hazy
>>		"I can't drive 55"	-Sammy Hagar
>
>
>You could buy a Cyclone from General Motors... they put the engine from

I seem to remember a discussion a while back about taking someone for a
ride down those Pennsylvania roads in a Miata vs. a Chevette or
something. Now I have been down some of those roads on my VF700Sabre.
Want to go for a ride with me, Dave?

The last person who did said he thought skydiving was infinitely more
comforting - though I guess almost berming off of that pickup's tires
at 65mph on that 25mph curve was a bit much. There's just something
about riding on those sidewalls in 2nd gear at 12,000 rpm :^)

Better yet, how about on one of those new Ducati 888's? Made for those
beautiful mountain roads:

1/4 mile - 11.8 sec @ 122.14 mph
0-60     - 2.95 sec.
Braking 60-0 - 118 ft.
Max speed in 6th @ 10,000 rpm - 152 mph
Bhp - 96.4 @ 9000 rpm
Curb weight - 459 lb.
Supposedly the finest handling production motorcycle ever made.

So Dave, if I manage to come up with the $19,500 price tag, would you
care to go for a spin? I'll drive up some weekend & pick you up. I'll
break it in on the trip up, so's we will be all ready to go....

Now what does this have to do with Amigas? Ok, how about this one:
"Having an Amiga is a lot like riding a high-performance motorcycle.
For a cheaper price you get an incredible amount of performance and the
thrill that goes with it, but you do loose a little bit of safety."

Yyyyeeeeeaaaahhhh!!!!!
(0-60 in 3.7 secs on my 44k mile 700 Sabre without shifting into 2nd)
====================================================================
Kent Polk - Southwest Research Institute - kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
        "Well... can't you get a Novell card for your Cray ?"
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blgardne@javelin.es.com (Blaine Gardner) (12/12/90)

kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:

[Hot cars deleted]

>Better yet, how about on one of those new Ducati 888's? Made for those
>beautiful mountain roads:

I'm looking at getting an FJ1200 next spring. It's only been 12 years
since I bought my last new street bike, pretty flighty of me to switch
bikes so often, isn't it? :-)

>Now what does this have to do with Amigas? Ok, how about this one:
>"Having an Amiga is a lot like riding a high-performance motorcycle.
>For a cheaper price you get an incredible amount of performance and the
>thrill that goes with it, but you do loose a little bit of safety."
                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Pssst. You never mention the downside in front of the general public,
they might think we're crazy or something.

>(0-60 in 3.7 secs on my 44k mile 700 Sabre without shifting into 2nd)

I'll see that 3.7, and lower you a .5 at least!  But all this nonsense
really belongs in rec.motorcycles. See you over there?
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