[comp.sys.amiga] Compilers, etc.

griff@anvil.intel.com (12/08/90)

A little while ago I asked the net what languages were available
for Amiga - also what Version was there and if it was still being
sold/supported, etc.  Here are some results - if anyone can 
"fill in the blanks" - feel free, just repost so the rest of us
can check it out...

These headings should seem obvious, tho' General is the general
feeling about that particular compiler/interpeter (as suggested
by you, the users), this is not to start a flame war about who's 
compiler is "better" - just does it support "stand language 
syntax" with a minor amount of bugs... (BTW - "commercial" means 
"I don't know who does it")

Language:	By Who?		Version:	General:

C               Manx		5.?		Good
                Lattice		5.10		Good	
C++ 		Lattice				Fair
Modula-2        Benchmark			Good-Very Good
		M2Sprint			Good
		TDI				Fair-Yuck
		M2Amiga
Pascal 		PD                              OK
		Metacomco			Yuck
		KickPascal
		PCQ	
Forth           commercial			Excellent
lisp		PD
		XLisp
		XLispStat
Scheme 		Xscheme
		PD
prolog		Stony Brook
Draco						Excellent
Oberon						?
Fortran						Good
Basic		"several"			Decent
AREXX						Good
Smalltalk	PD
Postscript      PD?
assembler 
Icon		PD
APL
Logo
Comal
Intercal
Maple
dBase 		dbMan (program?)
		Lattice (Library..for C?)

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news@helios.TAMU.EDU (Usenet News Admin) (12/08/90)

Keywords: compilers, versions
From: n368bq@tamuts.tamu.edu (Raoul Rodriguez)
Path: tamuts!n368bq

 
This is an except from a letter I wrote to a distraught 1084 owner who
had the exact same problem that I had about 6 months ago...
 
Basically the problem was that every now and then, the monitor would
blank out, it would actually power down, but, a good whack on the side
of the case would bring the monitor back to life (just like Oral Roberts)
but, alas, it would get more and more serious, until you are ready to
kill something... like an uncooperative C= dealer...
 
  I had the exact same problem, and I took my monitor to the local C= dealer
he told me he couldn't g fix it (actually he wanted to replace the entire 
motherboard of the monitor ($170+... phew!).  I told my friend about my
problem, we took my moniotr over to his apartment, and he broke out the 
soldering iron.  We open up the case, and took the monitor out (there are 
screws in the back near the plugs too (we kinna missed them for a bit :) ))
you have to remove the metal shielding on the bottom of the mother board
and check for broken solder joints, I had about 3 or so we resoldered.  
You shouldn't do this, but, we pluged it in a checked to make sure where
the broken joint was at (before we removed the shielding) by pressing
on the bottom of the shielding in certain spots to see where the monitor
was broken at.  If you can't do the soldering now, here is a quick fix 
(but it is only temorary (trust me)), take some bad disks and stick them
between the metal shielding on the bottom of the mother board and the
bottom of the plastic monitor case, about 2 or 3 should do in order to get
the picture back.  This will only last about 2 months or so though... and
then it goes a back to its old tricks.  All and all, it cost me a Super Big
Gulp to fix (my friend works cheap :) ), and the monitor is good as new.
You will have to unsolder the shielding to get at the bad joints, and then     
have to resolder it in place, and for god's sake, don't mess with any of the  
knobs inside the case (The one's on the back of the tube are focusing... and
they are a pain to get right again... (more experience.. :) ).  Before
we put the monitor back together again we plugged into the computer to see if
it would work or not (it did... :) ).  Hopes this helps...
 
Raoul (my monitor works) Rodriguez 

wasp@chumly.ka.sub.org (Walter Mildenberger) (12/13/90)

In article <1990Dec7.172455.3870@intelhf.hf.intel.com>, griff@anvil.intel.com writes:

|A little while ago I asked the net what languages were available
|for Amiga - also what Version was there and if it was still being
|sold/supported, etc.  Here are some results - if anyone can 
|"fill in the blanks" - feel free, just repost so the rest of us
|can check it out...

Ok...

|C               Manx		5.?		Good
|                Lattice	5.10		Good
what's about Dice, PDC,et.al. ?

|Modula-2        Benchmark			Good-Very Good
|		M2Sprint			Good
|		TDI				Fair-Yuck
		M2Amiga		3.30		Good (at least the german version,
						dunno 'bout an english manual)
|Pascal 	PD                              OK
|		Metacomco			Yuck
		KickPascal ? I thinks it's 2.0 now ?!?	OK (ditto like M2Amiga)
|		PCQ
 [...]
Oberon		from AL+L (like M2Amiga)	seems to be Good (ditto like M2Amiga)

Cluster		"commercial"  not released yet	???

(Cluster is a "combination between M2 & C"; incl. Environment; first
testers say: seems to be good, but horrible busy-waiting (40% of CPU-Time
are wasted at waiting for user-input :-( )

Regards
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