lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (02/10/90)
In <10155@hoptoad.uucp>, slc@hoptoad.uucp (Steve Costa) writes: >Incidentally PLAN IT is now apparently the baby of the developer to blame >for the unfortunate ULTRACARD. > >This kind of software gives the Amiga a bad reputation. I'm reluctant to >recommend the machine to people who need a computer for business or >"productivity" use. The very same author inflicted MaxiComm on the Amiga community in the early days of the Amiga. I bought it because I was desparate for a terminal program. After I got it I was still desparate for a terminal program. I was bitten again by Ultracard, but I can tell you that I won't be bitten by anything from this author again. -larry -- Gallium Arsenide is the technology of the future; always has been, always will be. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
slc@hoptoad.uucp (Steve Costa) (02/11/90)
Are there any decent _STABLE_ spreadsheets for the Amiga? I have two friends independently using PLAN IT. It crashes frequently, sometimes while trying to save work (which means everything is gone). Incidentally PLAN IT is now apparently the baby of the developer to blame for the unfortunate ULTRACARD. This kind of software gives the Amiga a bad reputation. I'm reluctant to recommend the machine to people who need a computer for business or "productivity" use.
eapu030@orion.oac.uci.edu (Jason Goldberg) (02/11/90)
In article <10155@hoptoad.uucp> slc@hoptoad.UUCP (Steve Costa) writes: > >Are there any decent _STABLE_ spreadsheets for the Amiga? I have two >friends independently using PLAN IT. It crashes frequently, sometimes while >trying to save work (which means everything is gone). > Plan It, is another incarnation of MaxiPlan the current version are again called MaxiPlan and are owned by Oxi. It seems to be the popular SS going Analyze! from MMS and SuperPlan from Precision both have a good following. I have just recieved my evaluation copy of Gold Disks new SS called Advantage which is beign shipped Monday or Tuesday. First look, seems very good but I havent really put it through its paces yet. -Jason-
BAXTER_A@wehi.dn.mu.oz (02/14/90)
In article <1129@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca>, lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) writes: > In <10155@hoptoad.uucp>, slc@hoptoad.uucp (Steve Costa) writes: >>Incidentally PLAN IT is now apparently the baby of the developer to blame >>for the unfortunate ULTRACARD. >> >>This kind of software gives the Amiga a bad reputation. I'm reluctant to >>recommend the machine to people who need a computer for business or >>"productivity" use. > > The very same author inflicted MaxiComm on the Amiga community in the early > days of the Amiga. I bought it because I was desparate for a terminal program. > After I got it I was still desparate for a terminal program. I was bitten again > by Ultracard, but I can tell you that I won't be bitten by anything from this > author again. > > -larry I completely agree. Ultracard and Planit/Maxiplan are two of the most bug loaded pox riddled shithouse programs ever duplicated. My misery is that I've got >2Mb of data in Maxiplan format. Don't ask me how I got it in... Is there any chance we could take a contract out on the bastard? Regards Alan > > -- > Gallium Arsenide is the technology of the future; > always has been, always will be. > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ > | // Larry Phillips | > | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | > | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | > +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
pnelson@hobbes.uucp (Phil Nelson) (02/15/90)
In article <1129@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca> lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) writes: >In <10155@hoptoad.uucp>, slc@hoptoad.uucp (Steve Costa) writes: >>Incidentally PLAN IT is now apparently the baby of the developer to blame >>for the unfortunate ULTRACARD. >> >>This kind of software gives the Amiga a bad reputation. I'm reluctant to >>recommend the machine to people who need a computer for business or >>"productivity" use. > >The very same author inflicted MaxiComm on the Amiga community in the early >days of the Amiga. I bought it because I was desparate for a terminal program. >After I got it I was still desparate for a terminal program. I was bitten again >by Ultracard, but I can tell you that I won't be bitten by anything from this >author again. > I too suffered with MaxiComm, it was my first Amiga software purchase. I too said I would never buy anything else from this author, yet I too bought Ultra card. I am really dissatisfied. I agree that this sort of crap gives the Amiga a bad name, and I am sorry that I supported it. Probably this has been suggested before, but I really wish some sort of independant screening or certification agency could be set up, just to certify the basics, like: can you run it for 10 minutes without visiting the guru? Does it do what it claims? Does it multitask properly? Will it run on 68010 -20 -30? It seems to me that such an agency, were it really impartial, would serve the interests of almost all concerned; the users, CBM, reputable software authors, etc... I guess the only people who inconvenienced would be people who write garbage like Ultracard and Maxicomm. Speaking as a many - times - burned software buyer, I would pay close attention to the opinions of an agency that did some basic testing reliably and impartially. I would certainly pay a few dollars extra to have such an agency's stamp of certification on my software purchases. >| // Larry Phillips | >| \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | >| COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | >+-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ Phil Nelson at (but not speaking for) OnTyme:NSC.P/Nelson BT Tymnet Voice:408-922-7508 UUCP:{pyramid|ames}oliveb!tymix!pnelson LRV:Component Station How 'bout those World Champion Oakland A's!!!
MTL106@psuvm.psu.edu (09/27/90)
I hate to bring up such a dull subject as spreadsheets, but I can't
find any up to date info in magazines. I am in desparite need of a
high quality science/engineering oriented spreadsheet. Precise plotting
( on a dot-matrix printer ) is a must. Any info is greatly appriciated.
THANKS!
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************************************************************************caw@miroc.Chi.IL.US (Christopher A. Wichura) (12/03/90)
I am lookinf for a spreadsheet. I haven't seen many PD/Shareware ones that
are very good (if someone knows of any, please let me know). So I called
up the dealer I usually get stuff from and asked them. They said that
there are essentially only two out there: Advantage and Maxi Plan III
(though this is available only as an upgrade they said -- how many $$$?).
I'd like to know people's opinions on the above two. Advantage runs under
2.0 on a 3000 (which is what I will be using it on) and supports an FPU,
but doesn't handle double precision. I know next to nothing about Maxi
Plan, although I seem to remember some `unkind' words about it on the net a
while back. If you've used both, I'd be particurarily interested in a
comparison.
Right now, I probably don't need double precision. However, it's something
I would like in the future. Does anyone know if Advantage is scheduled to
be updated in this manner? Also, if there is some new star spangled spread
sheet that's supposed to be coming out soon, I'd like to hear about that,
too.
Thanks much,
-=> CAW
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>I am lookinf for a spreadsheet. I haven't seen many PD/Shareware ones that >are very good (if someone knows of any, please let me know). So I called >up the dealer I usually get stuff from and asked them. They said that >there are essentially only two out there: Advantage and Maxi Plan III Well, I am now using Superplan which appears to be alive and well... It seems to be full-featured and has an ARexx port (or so the documentation would have you believe... I havent used it yet, and there's no mention of it in the docs, 'cept the README file). I had been using Analyze, which is adequate, but lack of support was appalling--last I heard MSS stopped all development and it still has a ways to go IMHO. I put together a couple of neat Analyze applications, and haven't had the time to play much with SuperPlan... first impressions are + ARexx Port + Development and support seem to be there... + Company also markets SuperBase 3.0 database software and promises smooth interface between the two + seems full-functioned - macro language is "different" (very non-Lotus, but not in a better way: uses 3 letter cmds, sometimes cryptic, eg: >MCR (move cursor right) rather than {right}...) - borders and menus take up lots of screen real estate - command menu is extremely cryptic (selections are letters A-Z, to copy dont try "C" (Calendar), but "R" for Replicate...) - WARNING: Make sure you get the US version (regis. card goes to TX, not England--British version is Dongle-protected, and not-supported by US company (and British office not supposed to provide US support, even if I wanted to call them long distance... Had to deal with store for a couple of weeks before they could get a US copy from their distributor--don't know if this is a common problem, but better beware. - words in manual and program are misspelled (e.g. "colour", "neighbour," etc. 8-) The jury is still deliberating, but so far I would recommend that you test drive it and decide for yourself... Ralph ----- Ralph A. Foy Nutley, NJ akcs.valhalla@tronsbox.xei.com
sbeagle@kennels.actrix.gen.nz (Sleeping Beagle) (12/19/90)
Hi. (What is this line-eater thing anyway? :-) I am looking for a good spreadsheet. I don't of any on the Amiga and was hoping that someone could point me to a good one. It's for use on an Amiga 500+A590+2 megs so it doesn't have to be miserly with resources. I don't want anything too complex - but would like something that is fairly graphically oriented. (I just tried using Analyticalc which is exactly what I don't like... ) This might start a flame war, but I'm really looking for something like Full Impact on the Mac. (I *like* that spreadsheet.) Any help would be appreciated. I read most of Comp.sys.amiga so feel free to post if you feel it would be of general interest... -- ** Official Signature for Sleeping Beagle (aka Thomas Farmer)! ** Mail : sbeagle@kennels.actrix.gen.nz Thomas.Farmer@bbs.actrix.gen.nz ** ** Disclaimers are for sick societies with too many lawyers.