cameron@kirk.nmg.bu.oz (Cameron Stevenson) (06/01/90)
One of my rare postings, this time requesting information... I'd like as much information about AmigaVision as possible. Currently I use HyperCard <-> Oracle <-> MicroStation (CAD package) on the Mac to develop applications that integrate vector based graphics with relational database information through an 'idiot-proof' interface. In most cases, the data (both graphic and non-graphic) is not resident on the user's machine ie.this is a network application. Since it's initial release I have been a great fan of the Amiga, having owned an early 1000 and 2000. AmigaVision would seem to provide the necessary tools to develop similar applications to the one I am currently working on, complete with the networking, and multiple OS support(?). Some of the specific questions I have... 1. When will it be released? Here in Australia? 2. I have seen references to file compatibility with dBase III. What does this actually mean? 3. Is there support for accessing all of the Amiga's features (such as the PC side of the Bridgeboard or AMax)? Along those lines, with the release of the A3000, are there plans for the release of an 80386 bridgeboard? And what Macintosh support (hardware wise) is there within AMax (ie. an AppleTalk connector)? 4. What exactly can AmigaVision do? I have the impression that it is simply a scripting language that sits behind icons, so that an icon can be made to do much more than opening an application with the selected document. Is there more? Please tell.. Please E-mail your reply (although I'm sure there must be other people interested in this - maybe a new newsgroup ala comp.sys.mac.hypercard?) And no flames about using this product over a comparable Amiga product, or non-technical trivia like AmigaVision's *GREAT* - BLASTS HYPERCARD!! please. Thanks in advance... Cameron Stephenson Bond University Gold Coast, Australia
campbell@cbmvax.commodore.com (John Campbell - Marketing) (06/01/90)
In response to a flurry of requests regarding AmigaVision: 1. When? It will first appear inside bundled products, then as a standalone. Expect the standalone product to be available in the US starting around the second week of June. 2. dBASEIII, what does this have to do with AmigaVision? AmigaVision stores database information in a dBASEIII compatible file format, so that you can load in databases you may already have for use in AmigaVision. An example might be student names, addresses and grades. You may wish to note in your database that they have gotten to a certain level in your "courseware", or received a certain grade. 3. Support for Bridgeboard? No. 4. What is AmigaVision? It is an icon-based programming language specializing in the control of multimedia events. While it has the usual control statements (i.e. if-then, etc) and math functions, it also gives direct control of sound, speech, pictures, animations, and videodiscs. The upcoming Amiga Developers Conference will provide more information, and so will purchasing the actual product :-). John Campbell Senior Manager Commodore Applications and Technical Support
nad@tegra.COM (Nancy Durgin) (06/05/90)
In article <12078@cbmvax.commodore.com> campbell@cbmvax (John Campbell - CATS) writes: >In response to a flurry of requests regarding AmigaVision: > >1. When? It will first appear inside bundled products, then as a >standalone. Expect the standalone product to be available in the US >starting around the second week of June. > I read in a recent magazine that any A2000's that were still under 90 day warranty when AmigaVision (and the new 1 year warranty) were announced (4-26-90?) would automatically get AmigaVision and would have their warranty extended to a year. 1) Is this true? 2) What is the cutoff date (my A2000 was purchased on 2-10-90 via the 1000->2000 tradein) ? 3) Is the update automatic, assuming I sent in my warranty card, or is there something I must do? I'd appreciate a response from anyone (CATS or otherwise) who knows the real scoop here... Thanks... -- ============================================================================== Nancy Durgin | (Usual disclaimers | Tegra-Varityper, Inc. tegra!nad@uunet.com | apply...) | Billerica, Massachusetts ==============================================================================
davidm@sugar.hackercorp.com (David Martin) (06/10/90)
To any one at CBM....
How can I aquire a copy of Amigavision for product
development? Currently I am using Cando and find some of
it's features to be limited. Currently I am working on
some writing projects about designing multimedia
applications with programs like Cando. I am a freelance
writer and I am not currently a registered Amiga developer
but I hope to fix that soon. I have the application paperwork
but have not sent it in yet. How can I get a copy
of Amigavision...I would like to start writing some articles
about the multimedia programming field...covering AV wouldd
be great.
Also how do I get official information on file requestors
in V2.0 of AmigaDOS?
David
-- hcobb@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Henry J. Cobb) (06/10/90)
I've touched this program, and was touched. This is a very inspirational program, you don't need a keyboard to program it. I have this vision of a disabled vet somewhere, who can only move his eyes, and has a device that tracks eye movements and converts them into mouse inputs. This would be sufficient to program with AV. I challenge every Amiga proggramer to just go down and try the expression input routines. -- Henry J. Cobb hcobb@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Tyrant of the SFB-tactics E-Mailing list.
brant@cs.UAlberta.CA (Brant Coghlan) (06/12/90)
In article <31325@ut-emx.UUCP> hcobb@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Henry J. Cobb) writes: > > I have this vision of a disabled vet somewhere, who can only move his >eyes, and has a device that tracks eye movements and converts them into mouse >inputs. This would be sufficient to program with AV. A consumer eye position sensor was shown at this years Spring COMDEX. It was configured for the Nintendo and should be available this fall. Soon we will be able to explore Cyberspace with our Amigas. Picture this: sitting down in front of your A3000 with a data glove on each hand, Haitex X-Specs (for 3D), stereo sound, speech synthesis, Vo-Rec-One (for speech recognition), and this new eye position tracker. All we need is some extra joystick ports, some Cyberspace software, and a dark room so no one will see us in our artificial reality outfit :-) -Brant -- Brant Coghlan (grad student) (403)487-3619 address: alberta!brant or brant@alberta.uucp or brant@pembina.cs.ualberta.ca Dept. of Comp. Science, 615 GSB, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
brant@cs.UAlberta.CA (Brant Coghlan) (06/12/90)
In article <1990Jun12> brant@cs.UAlberta.CA (Brant Coghlan) writes: > > A consumer eye position sensor was shown at this years Spring COMDEX. ^^^^^^ Woops, that should be CES (Consumer Electronics Show). -- Brant Coghlan (grad student) (403)487-3619 address: alberta!brant or brant@alberta.uucp or brant@pembina.cs.ualberta.ca Dept. of Comp. Science, 615 GSB, U of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada
BAXTER_A@wehi.dn.mu.oz (06/13/90)
In article <31325@ut-emx.UUCP>, hcobb@walt.cc.utexas.edu (Henry J. Cobb) writes: > > I have this vision of a disabled vet somewhere, who can only move his > eyes, and has a device that tracks eye movements and converts them into mouse > inputs. This would be sufficient to program with AV. Hey!! That's my uncle!!! One copy of AV on order.. (that was _vetinary surgeon_ wasn't it?) Regards Alan
axjjb@acad3.fai.alaska.edu (BRYANT JOHN J) (06/29/90)
Well, It seems that AmigaVision is shipping withthe Educational Bundles. I recieved mine last week and have already written a couple of applications in it. It is extremely powerful.
amhartma@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Andy Hartman (Amiga Man)) (06/29/90)
In article <1990Jun28.200631.6576@hayes.fai.alaska.edu> axjjb@acad3.fai.alaska.edu writes: > > Well, It seems that AmigaVision is shipping withthe Educational >Bundles. I recieved mine last week and have already written a couple >of applications in it. It is extremely powerful. Well, I didn't get a copy of AmigaVision with my bundle, but I called C= today and explained to them that I didn't get it and they took my address and said that they would ship it immediatly. Way to go Commodore! AMH * Andy Hartman | I'd deny half of this crap anyway!| /// * Indiana University |-----------------------------------| /// *++Construction++++++| amhartma@silver.ucs.indiana.edu | \\\/// *+++++++Zone+++++++++| AMHARTMA@rose.ucs.indiana.edu | \XX/
gutierrez@noc.arc.nasa.gov (Robert Gutierrez) (07/02/90)
axjjb@acad3.fai.alaska.edu (BRYANT JOHN J) writes: |> Well, It seems that AmigaVision is shipping withthe Educational |> Bundles. I recieved mine last week and have already written a couple |> of applications in it. It is extremely powerful. What I would like to see here in c.s.a. is A REVIEW of AmigaVision!!! (...please...) What I want to do is a presentation of an anim file, using a Pioneer LV-series laserdisc player (the ones with the RS-232, the same ones Amigavision is supposed to support). But, what I want to do is play back the anim file single-frame (one frame at a time) timed to the laserdisc's time-code. Originally, everybody said use "The Director", but it had no support for reading the RS-232 port. Then, everybody said AmigaVision is "The Answer", and it would solve all my problems, but it strictly intution-based (icons only), with no provision for text-scripting, like the Director. And it only controls the LV-series laserdisc players...it does not read timecode from LD's. Now, I'm back to square one. I was going to try to use Arexx, but everything I use now has no Arexx ports, and I heard that The Director is supposed to have an arexx port in a new release. As it stands now, I have to hand-time the frame-advancing on an anim player, sometimes resulting in missed cues. Not pretty... Suggestions??? (I'm the type of person who needs "comp.sys.amiga.multimedia" bad...) Robert Gutierrez Office of Space Science and Applications, NASA Science Internet Project - Network Operations Center. Moffett Feild, California.
terry@comcon.UUCP (Terry LaGrone) (07/03/90)
In article <52921@ames.arc.nasa.gov>, gutierrez@noc.arc.nasa.gov (Robert Gutierrez) writes: > axjjb@acad3.fai.alaska.edu (BRYANT JOHN J) writes: > |> Well, It seems that AmigaVision is shipping withthe Educational > What I want to do is a presentation of an anim file, using a Pioneer > LV-series laserdisc player (the ones with the RS-232, the same ones > Amigavision is supposed to support). But, what I want to do is play > back the anim file single-frame (one frame at a time) timed to the > laserdisc's time-code. > As it stands now, I have to hand-time the frame-advancing on an anim player, > sometimes resulting in missed cues. Not pretty... > > Suggestions??? > > Robert Gutierrez > Office of Space Science and Applications, > NASA Science Internet Project - Network Operations Center. > Moffett Feild, California. I have been using AmigaVision for 6 months with the Pioneer player. AmigaVision fully supports two-way communication between the player and the program for CAV discs. If you really need time-code, I assume you are using a CLV disc (long play). AmigaVision does not support those type discs at this time. AmigaVision is also not a scripted language, so some things that can be done easily with a text editor are hard in AmigaVision. Overall, I am totally sold on AmigaVision, so much so that I have converted my main projects over from PILOT. I wrote an Amiga version of PILOT three years ago due to the total lack of laser disc support at that time. To solve your problem, if you have the later type of Pioneer player (4200, 2200, or 8000), it would be simple to set up a polling subroutine within THE DIRECTOR EXECUTE a,"QueryProgram_you_write > Response_file" OPEN 0,"Response_file" READ 0,$Response,8 CLOSE IF ... THEN ... ELSE AREXX would be much more elegant. Terry H. LaGrone Flight Training Devices - Alaska (See PILOT under Authoring Systems in Amazing Computing Product Guide)
jandreas@pro-graphics.cts.com (Jason Andreas) (07/18/90)
In-Reply-To: message from gutierrez@noc.arc.nasa.gov
If you need to talk to the serial port, write a module for it. Keith Doyle
should send the Aztec C source. I've had to write many'a'module for my touch
screen software. If he won't, send me private mail, and the name of the
CD-Player, and i'll see what i can do.
ProLine: jandreas@pro-graphics
UUCP: ...crash!pro-graphics!jandreas
ARPA/DDN: pro-graphics!jandreas@nosc.mil
Internet: jandreas@pro-graphics.cts.comrcs91900@zach.fit.edu ( Charles Stockman /ADVISOR-Clutterham) (08/22/90)
I remember when I was thinking about buying the mac, the only reason I was going to buy it was that it had some real great software that I liked. One of the pieces of software that really impressed me was Apple's Hypercard. For $50 dollars you could experiment the power of the mac for a low price !!!!! This is why we should keep the price low on the amiga vision
jlh@lebesgue.math.purdue.edu (Jeffrey Hensley) (08/22/90)
In article <1342@winnie.fit.edu> rcs91900@zach.fit.edu ( Charles Stockman /ADVISOR-Clutterham) writes: >I remember when I was thinking about buying the mac, the only reason I was going >to buy it was that it had some real great software that I liked. One of the >pieces of software that really impressed me was Apple's Hypercard. For $50 >dollars you could experiment the power of the mac for a low price !!!!! > >This is why we should keep the price low on the amiga vision > > I don't understand!?!? Amiga Vision is being bundled with the purchase of an Amiga. How much lower can you set the price? If you buy an A3000 you get AmigaVision. Gee, that seems like $50 less than having to get Hypercard for the Mac. What people have been complaining about is that if you already have an Amiga then you are looking at spending up to $150. But look at other software that is out there. I just bought Disney's Animation Studio for the same price. DeluxePaint isn't free. Look at what it costs to get a 3D rendering package. Or a titling program. Quality software is not cheap!! (At least not in general). --Jeff
amhartma@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Andy Hartman <Amigaman>) (09/20/90)
Well, I sent in my card to get AmigaVision about 2 months ago. I got a letter saying that they are back-ordered. The letter also said that they expect to fill all orders by the end of Sept. What I'm asking is for those people who sent in cards to mail me and tell me when they mailed in their cards and wether or not they have received their AV. Just wondering if they forgot about me or not... Thanks, AMH * Andy Hartman | I'd deny half of this crap anyway!| "Somedays, you just * Indiana University | amhartma@silver.ucs.indiana.edu | can't get rid of a * // Amiga Man | AMHARTMA@rose.ucs.indiana.edu | bomb!" * \X/ At Large! | or just "Hey putz!" | - Batman (original)
UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) (09/20/90)
In article <59492@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu>, amhartma@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Andy Hartman <Amigaman>) says: > >Well, I sent in my card to get AmigaVision about 2 months ago. I got a letter >saying that they are back-ordered. The letter also said that they expect to ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Let's hope this is *good* news. Maybe they sold a lot more Amigas than they predicted they would 8-) lee
dlarson@blake.u.washington.edu (Dale Larson) (09/29/90)
AmigaVision 1.58g, which is compatible with 2.0 and the A3000, showed up on my doorstep today. I am a developer, but since none of the usual stuff about beta releases and/or non-disclosure agreements came with it, I assume that they are now shipping it to all A3000 owners who should have theirs RSN!!! BTW, it looks really neat. Wish I had it a couple months ago. I might have considered using it for my current development project instead of using all 'C'. -- -Dale Larson (dlarson@blake.u.washington.edu)
scott@stsci.EDU (Jim Scott) (10/15/90)
My 2 cents. I sent in the card in early August.... No word, no Amigavision. I called Customer service recently and they said, 'oh yeah. It's shipping right now. You should have it in a week or so. That was three weeks ago. C=! Get on the ball! When you promise somebody something when you purchase something you should deliver. The woman at C= couldn't even check to see if they had my name down for it or anything. Maybe they need an IBM to run a database? ;) Jim
daves@hpcilzb.HP.COM (Dave Scroggins) (10/19/90)
>My 2 cents. I sent in the card in early August.... >No word, no Amigavision. I called Customer service > GLAD TO HEAR IT!! (hey misery loves company) ;-) ;-) It's been nearly 8 weeks now -- and no AmigaVision -- But who's counting?? Dave (waiting too) S.
S36666WB%ETSUACAD.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu (Brian Wright) (10/21/90)
On 18 Oct 90 23:09:17 GMT you said: >>My 2 cents. I sent in the card in early August.... >>No word, no Amigavision. I called Customer service >> > >GLAD TO HEAR IT!! (hey misery loves company) ;-) ;-) > >It's been nearly 8 weeks now -- and no AmigaVision -- > >But who's counting?? > >Dave (waiting too) S. Well, I just got mine today. It FINALLY came. I am using it now. I am trying out the Databases. The manual is quite slick. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ======================================================================= ||NeXT- (nekst) N. The only PC to have sold less than 10,000 units and || || not be considered a flop. || ||------------------------------------------/ /------------------------|| ||---Brian Wright | / / || ||---s36666wb@etsuacad.etsu.edu | \ \/ / Only Amiga || ||---Commercial Artist and Amigaphile| \/\/ Makes It Possible!! || =======================================================================
acota@pro-realm.cts.com (Arnold Cota) (12/08/90)
Is this program only for 3000 owners or can we lowly 1000 owners use it also? Arn. UUCP: crash!pro-realm!acota ARPA: crash!pro-realm!acota@nosc.mil INET: acota@pro-realm.cts.com
seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) (12/21/90)
Yeah! It finally came in the mail today. Now I've only got one order outstanding that I'm waiting on...my DCTV. My upgrade to JMan came last Friday, TAD came last Tuesday, my AmigaVision today...now all I need is my DCTV. I want my DCTV (he says while trying his best impression of Billy Idol) Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .SIG v2.5 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< UUCP: ...!crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc RealWorld: Sean Cunningham ARPA: !crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc@nosc.mil Voice: (512) 992-2810 INET: seanc@pro-party.cts.com ____________________________________ // | * All opinions expressed herein | HELP KEEP THE COMPETITION UNDER \X/ | Copyright 1990 VISION GRAPHICS | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<