a499@mindlink.UUCP (Robert Salesas) (11/28/90)
There seems to be a small case of false advertising in that Ad. The picture they show is clearly VGA or EGA, they claim however to support only CGA color. Check it out if it sounds too good to be true... Rob
a499@mindlink.UUCP (Robert Salesas) (11/28/90)
Ah, that makes sense... Rob
gmm34343@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (11/28/90)
Does anyone have any additional information about the ATonce PC/AT emulator advertised in AmigaWorld 12/90? It seems to be using a 286 cpu and will run in the 500 using its drives and ports. All this is claimed to be running as a task under AmigaDOS! The screen shot shows Windows 3.0 - can it be? Can someone tell me how to get ordering information? But first, I'd like to hear from someone who has actually used the thing. Is Windows too sluggish to be usuable? How about compatibility? Any help would be appreciated....
es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) (11/29/90)
In article <3971@mindlink.UUCP> a499@mindlink.UUCP (Robert Salesas) writes: >There seems to be a small case of false advertising in that Ad. The picture >they show is clearly VGA or EGA, they claim however to support >only CGA color. Check it out if it sounds too good to be true... >Rob Not really. It supports the IBM slots in the 2000 so you can do what bridgeboard owners do: stick a VGA card in the slot. -- Ethan Woody Allen on Los Angeles: "I mean, who would want to live in a place where the only cultural advantage is that you can turn right on a red light?"
DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu (11/29/90)
>can do what bridgeboard owners do: stick a VGA card in the slot.
That would be neat trick, but quite impossible I'm afraid!
-- Dan Babcockjma@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) (11/30/90)
Where did it say that the ATOnce can access the IBM slots? I didn't see that in the Amigaworld ad. -- John M. Adams --**-- Professional Student on the eight-year plan! /// Internet: jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu -or- vladimir@maple.circa.ufl.edu /// "We'll always be together, together in electric dreams" Moroder & Oakey \\V// Sysop of The Beachside. FIDOnet 1:3612/557. 904-492-2305 (Florida) \X/
danb20@pro-graphics.cts.com (Dan Bachmann, SubOp) (12/02/90)
In-Reply-To: message from DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu
>can do what bridgeboard owners do: stick a VGA card in the slot.
That would be neat trick, but quite impossible I'm afraid!
-- Dan Babcock
Nope, it's not impossible. I've seen an Amiga 2500/030 with a '286
Bridgecard running VGA on a multisync, while the Amiga still used the 1084
monitor.
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In article <6021@crash.cts.com>, danb20@pro-graphics.cts.com (Dan Bachmann, SubOp) says: >In-Reply-To: message from DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu >>can do what bridgeboard owners do: stick a VGA card in the slot. >That would be neat trick, but quite impossible I'm afraid! >-- Dan Babcock > Nope, it's not impossible. I've seen an Amiga 2500/030 with a '286 >Bridgecard running VGA on a multisync, while the Amiga still used the 1084 >monitor. I was referring to the ATonce, not a bridgecard - quite different. It might still be possible with the ATonce, but certainly very difficult. -- Dan Babcock
joseph@valnet.UUCP (Joseph P. Hillenburg) (12/02/90)
danb20@pro-graphics.cts.com (Dan Bachmann, SubOp) writes: > In-Reply-To: message from DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu > > >can do what bridgeboard owners do: stick a VGA card in the slot. > > That would be neat trick, but quite impossible I'm afraid! > > -- Dan Babcock > Nope, it's not impossible. I've seen an Amiga 2500/030 with a '286 > Bridgecard running VGA on a multisync, while the Amiga still used the 1084 > monitor. So what do they do about activating the BridgeBoard window for input? > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ProLine: danb20@pro-graphics *************************** > UUCP: ...crash!pro-graphics!danb20 * Dan Bachmann * > ARPA/DDN: pro-graphics!danb20@nosc.mil * Raritan Valley College * > Internet: danb20@pro-graphics.cts.com *************************** > P-Link: DanB20 <-- I only read PLink once a mo. use Internet > U.S.Mail: 509 StonyBrook Drive, Bridgewater, NJ 08807 Joseph Hillenburg Secretary, Bloomington Amiga Users Group joseph@valnet.UUCP ...!iuvax!valnet!joseph "Only Apple could slow down a 68030 chip." -Computer Shopper
sparks@corpane.UUCP (John Sparks) (12/04/90)
DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu writes: |>>can do what bridgeboard owners do: stick a VGA card in the slot. |>That would be neat trick, but quite impossible I'm afraid! |> Nope, it's not impossible. I've seen an Amiga 2500/030 with a '286 |>Bridgecard running VGA on a multisync, while the Amiga still used the 1084 |>monitor. |I was referring to the ATonce, not a bridgecard - quite different. It might |still be possible with the ATonce, but certainly very difficult. Especially since the ATonce card doesn't sit across the Amiga/AT slots. the AT slots would never have any connection to the Amiga. That's part of the bridgeboard's function, to act like a 'bridge' between the two buses. -- John Sparks |D.I.S.K. Public Access Unix System| Multi-User Games, Email sparks@corpane.UUCP |PH: (502) 968-DISK 24Hrs/2400BPS | Usenet, Chatting, =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|7 line Multi-User system. | Downloads & more. A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of----Ogden Nash
sl195@cc.usu.edu (A banana is not a toy) (12/06/90)
In article <25649@uflorida.cis.ufl.EDU>, jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams) writes: > Where did it say that the ATOnce can access the IBM slots? I didn't see that ^^^^^^^^^ From what I understood when I read the article, ATOnce is for the A500. My A500 doesn't have any i*m slots :-) > in the Amigaworld ad. > -- > John M. Adams --**-- Professional Student on the eight-year plan! /// > Internet: jma@beach.cis.ufl.edu -or- vladimir@maple.circa.ufl.edu /// > "We'll always be together, together in electric dreams" Moroder & Oakey \\V// > Sysop of The Beachside. FIDOnet 1:3612/557. 904-492-2305 (Florida) \X/ -- All comments are my own, and many must be taken with a :-) =============================++++++++++++++++++++============================= | Demetrios Triandafilakos | James Knowles | "Remember, always remember,| | Shire of Cote du Ciel | BITNET: SL195@USU | my son -- a banana is not | | Principality of Artemesia | INTERNET: | a toy." | | Kingdom of Atenvelt | sl195@cc.usu.edu | - The Wise Guru | =============================++++++++++++++++++++============================= Be all that you can be - see your local SCA Knight Marshal now.
moore@bombe.enet.dec.com (W. Bruce Moore) (12/08/90)
If you read their ad you'll notice that it mentions an adapter to install
ATonce
into the 2000's processor slot. It's possible that this thing could also
connect
(via cable?) to the IBM bus, thereby allowing access to option cards. I have
no idea whether the adapter actually does this, and I expect they would have
said so if it did...
But it's not impossible.
--
W. Bruce Moore
Moore@bombe.pa.dec.comdrysdale@cbmvax.commodore.com (Scott Drysdale) (12/22/90)
In article <3971@mindlink.UUCP> a499@mindlink.UUCP (Robert Salesas) writes: >There seems to be a small case of false advertising in that Ad. The picture >they show is clearly VGA or EGA, they claim however to support >only CGA color. Check it out if it sounds too good to be true... the screen shot is of a 640x400 16 color mode (olivetti (and hence at&t) pc's have this mode). windows (and probably os/2) supports it. everything they say on the box is true (or close enough). it's what they don't say that i'm worried about. haven't had the time to play with one for too long yet, but i'm quite sure there are several minuses to it. but it's cheap, and works in a cheap machine. >Rob --Scotty -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Scott Drysdale Software Engineer Commodore Amiga Inc. UUCP {allegra|burdvax|rutgers|ihnp4}!cbmvax!drysdale PHONE (hopefully sometime this year) "Have you hugged your hog today?" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
drysdale@cbmvax.commodore.com (Scott Drysdale) (12/22/90)
In article <1990Nov28.220430.1084@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita) writes: >In article <3971@mindlink.UUCP> a499@mindlink.UUCP (Robert Salesas) writes: >>There seems to be a small case of false advertising in that Ad. The picture >>they show is clearly VGA or EGA, they claim however to support >>only CGA color. Check it out if it sounds too good to be true... >>Rob > > Not really. It supports the IBM slots in the 2000 so you >can do what bridgeboard owners do: stick a VGA card in the slot. WRONG! *!BUZZ!* (floor opens, ethan falls in) the ATOnce won't support any kind of pc hardware expansion. what it does now is what you're stuck with. the bridgeboards from commodore are the only way to get the ability to use PC expansion boards with your PC emulation. see a few articles ago for the scoop on the screenshot. someone (spirit?) was selling a monster called ax/s, but that didn't do pc emulation, but let you borrow pc compatible boards for the amiga's use. > > -- Ethan > > Woody Allen on Los Angeles: > > "I mean, who would want to live in a place where the only >cultural advantage is that you can turn right on a red light?" -- =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Scott Drysdale Software Engineer Commodore Amiga Inc. UUCP {allegra|burdvax|rutgers|ihnp4}!cbmvax!drysdale PHONE (hopefully sometime this year) "Have you hugged your hog today?" =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
HJOLLY%UNMB.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu (12/22/90)
It is possiable, or will be as soon as the company starts to
sale the adapter board for the ATonce. So, that any one can use
IBM boards on the IBM side of the Amiga 2000's. The adapters are
suppose to be a card that will plug into your bridge board slot
of your Amiga 2000. But yes as it is, you can not take advantage
of any IBM hardware(except that emulated by board) untill you
purchase this board. A2000 people from what I learned can until
then plug the ATonce into their 68000 socket.
Henry Jolly
hjolly@unmb.bitnet