cosell@bbn.com (Bernie Cosell) (08/06/89)
What is my 2000 trying to tell me? I called a dealer who suggested that it means that the battery may be dead, but this same dealer also thought it would be trivial to change the battery, but upon further interrogation he confessed that (a) he didn't know WHAT battery it took [but he really thought it was some standard buyable-at-Radio-Shack one], and that (b) I couldn't really just drop a new one in: the thing was soldered onto the board. All of that lead me to believe that he was just guessing and before I start disassembling and soldering on my Amy, I thought I consult the collected widsom of you-all: It occurs to me that if the battery is really soldered onto the board and NO normally-available documentation mentions the actual existence of the battery, much less what type it is or how (or how often) to replace it, then I would guess that C-A is trying to tell me pretty loud and clear that the batteries aren't supposed to just die. Is there some other possibility? I was doing some hacking (trying to get Ferrari Formula I to run off of my hard disk) and the machine had just trashed itself and crashed (real interesting: patterns streaming across the screen, the control LEDs on my modem went wild, etc). I ctrl-A-A'ed the beast and it came up complaining about its clock. I tried "setclock reset" but it, too, just complained about "clock not found". And there I sit. * Is there something more I can try BEFORE I disassemble my Amy? * Assuming I end up replacing the battery, any advice on how to go about it? Thanks!! /Bernie\
jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu (Jim Wright) (08/06/89)
This is largely based on my memory of past c.s.a. postings. If my ramblings can be verified, or a real solution can be found, it might be useful in the intro posting. In article <43865@bbn.COM> cosell@BBN.COM (Bernie Cosell) writes: | What is my 2000 trying to tell me? | | I was doing some hacking (trying to get | Ferrari Formula I to run off of my hard disk) and the machine had just | trashed itself and crashed (real interesting: patterns streaming | across the screen, the control LEDs on my modem went wild, etc). I | ctrl-A-A'ed the beast and it came up complaining about its clock. I | tried "setclock reset" but it, too, just complained about "clock not | found". And there I sit. This happened to me earlier. I "fixed" it by doing nothing. About the second or third day I booted, the problem simply disappeared. As I understand it, a register in the clock is getting trashed. The normal startup then can't find a (proper) clock. The solution is to get the registers in the clock back the way they should be. Between version 1.2 and 1.3 of the "setclock reset" commands, one works and one doesn't. (I believe 1.2 works.(?)) Another possible fix is the program which claims to "cure" the fabled "clock virus". Apparently it just resets the registers in the clock. (Available at an anti-viral archive site near you.) -- Jim Wright jwright@atanasoff.cs.iastate.edu
bbr@unh.UUCP (Barry B. Reinhold) (08/09/89)
To: cosell@BBN.COM Subject: Re: Battery Backed Up Clock Not Found In-reply-to: your article <43865@bbn.COM> News-Path: unh!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!csd4.milw.wisc.edu!bbn!bbn.com!cosell > there some other possibility? I was doing some hacking (trying to get > Ferrari Formula I to run off of my hard disk) and the machine had just > trashed itself and crashed (real interesting: patterns streaming > across the screen, the control LEDs on my modem went wild, etc). I > ctrl-A-A'ed the beast and it came up complaining about its clock. I > tried "setclock reset" but it, too, just complained about "clock not > found". And there I sit. Last night the same thing occured on my Amiga 500 while running with MachII (V2.5) in the background and trying to run the setup program for TagBBS (1.03 I think). I had the same display of junk on my screen and modem, when I ctrl-A-A'ed, I too saw this Battery Backed Up Clock Not Found. I was hoping it would clear it self up by tonight (I haven't been home yet). I am interested in the problem, just wanted to tell you it wasn't any type of copy protection. Does anybody know the solution. If it helps my Amiga is only two months old. Robert E. Anderson / / Research Computing Center / / I Represent University of New Hampshire \ \ / / myself only!! Durham NH 03824 \ X /
dales@teksce.SCE.TEK.COM (Dale Snell) (08/09/89)
[woof!]
Hi all,
A number of people seem to be having trouble with their battery
backed up clocks not working. It's your actual epidemic. So here's a
little ditty that Bob Page posted in May. It's real small, so I hope
nobody minds too much my posting it again. Cut it out, uudecode, and
zoo -extract. Source, executable, and icon included. Oh yeah, watch
the .sig at the end...
--dds
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Hark! Hark! The dogs do bark, | Dale D. Snell: dales@teksce.SCE.TEK.COM
The Duke is fond of kittens. | UUCP: ...!tektronix!teksce!dales
He likes to turn their insides out, | Compu$erve: 74756,666
And use their fur for mittens! | What's a disclaimer?mark@xrtll.UUCP (Mark Vange) (08/09/89)
In article <43865@bbn.COM>, cosell@bbn.com (Bernie Cosell) writes: > of the battery, much less what type it is or how (or how often) to > replace it, then I would guess that C-A is trying to tell me pretty > loud and clear that the batteries aren't supposed to just die. Is > there some other possibility? I was doing some hacking (trying to get We had an early A2000 do the same thing to us after it sat around working 30-40 hours straight in a relatively warm (30 C) room. A chip had to be pulled off the board and replaced...NOT typically a user-servicable part. I suggest you contact C-A and see if they'll fix it for ya! -- Mark Vange Phone Death Threats to: Vanguard Distributing (416) 730-1352 mark@xrtll 8 Everingham Ct. North York "Every absurdity has a champion Ont, Canada M2M 2J5 to defend it." - Oliver Goldsmith
OHA101%URIACC.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu (F. Michael Theilig) (08/11/89)
I had the mysterious "Battery backed clock not found" problem for
quite a while. I was convinced that it was because my battery was dead.
Setclock reset seems to have fixed it and I couldn't be happier (actually,
I could, but you get the idea ...)
The setclock to use is from 1.3. 1.2 setclock doesn't recognize the
option reset and ARP 1.3's gave me the same "Battery backed clock ..."
error.
(Does anyone really know what time it is ... Does anyone really care?)
/* F. Michael Theilig OHA101 at URIACC.Bitnet
"There is no Dark Side in the Moon, really ...
matter of fact it's all dark." */pl@etana.tut.fi (Lehtinen Pertti) (08/16/89)
I had also lost my clock one night and wb 1.3 doesn't seem to be able to find it, but booting with old 1.2 disk helped a lot. Pertti Lehtinen pl@tut.fi pl@tut.fi ! All opinions expressed above are Pertti Lehtinen ! purely offending and in subject Tampere University of Technology ! to change without any further Software Systems Laboratory ! notice
cs121jj@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (04/08/90)
I think what may have happened (what I do to fix this problem) is that there is/was a very low amount of charge left in the battery, so fully discharging it and leaving your Amiga on will re-charge the battery, making it okay for quite some time. This little discharging trick only needs to be done every 2 years or so (or something around then, some very HUGE amount of time). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jeff Nicholson jeffo@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu "Amiga, the only one for me" -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
bjames@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (Binoy James [890904]) (12/16/90)
Folks, After running one of the qmfleg demos that was in the demos directory at the New Xanth, my clock went for a little walk. Now I get the battery backed up clock not found error when using setclock load! I've tried setclock reset to no avail. I've heard of another program that will reset all the clock's registers thereby returning it to normal. Could somebody tell me where I could find this puppy? Thanks as always. Bin
lhotka@incstar.uucp (Glamdring) (12/24/90)
In article <1308@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU>, bjames@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (Binoy James [890904]) writes: > Folks, > > After running one of the qmfleg demos that was in the demos directory at the > New Xanth, my clock went for a little walk. > > Now I get the battery backed up clock not found error when using setclock load! > > I've tried setclock reset to no avail. I've heard of another program that will > reset all the clock's registers thereby returning it to normal. Could somebody > tell me where I could find this puppy? > > Thanks as always. > Bin The first thing to try (and what worked for me) is the 1.2 setclock program. Apparently the 1.3 version is not nearly as good at finding the clock as the 1.2 version was... Alternately I have seen a program to fix the clock on a couple bbs's around here. I have no idea if they work, but they claim to fix the clock. ______________________________________________________________________ / Rockford Lhotka INCSTAR Corp \ | Applications Project Leader 1990 Industrial Blvd | | incstar!lhotka@uunet.uu.net PO Box 285 | \ 612/779-1701 Stillwater, MN 55082 / -------------Amiga - The computer for the creative mind.--------------
Darin.Arrick@ijcr.fidonet.org (Darin Arrick) (12/25/90)
About your clock dying, I caught a virus about 6 months ago which killed my clock and made it do the same thing. The way to kill it is one of two things: 1)Use "setclock reset" 2)Take out the battery on the clock board and put it back in after about 20 seconds. My battery wouldn't come out (it's soldered to the board), so I shorted the two terminals together (VERY DANGEROUS!!!! Don't do unless you want to risk it!). It scrambled clock RAM. I turned on my machine and setclock found the clock. I set the time and date and no problems since. This may or may not be your problem, but if it is, this should help. Darin Arrick MicroCreations PO Box 820054, North Richland Hills, TX 76182 --- QuickBBS 2.66 (Reg) * Origin: I.J.C.R. BBS & B'nai No'ach [Ft.Worth, Texas] (1:130/49) -- Darin Arrick - via Fidonet node 1:130/49 UUCP: ...!merch!ijcr!Darin.Arrick INTERNET: Darin.Arrick@ijcr.fidonet.org
wfahl@rwthinf.UUCP (Wolfgang Fahl) (12/27/90)
In article <1308@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU>, bjames@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (Binoy James [890904]) writes: > ... Now I get the battery backed up clock not found error when using setclock load! ... Your problem is that setclock searches the internal clock at two addresses, $D80000 and $DC0000 by looking for changing register values. If your clock is halted, setclock finds nothing !!! The only thing to do is writing #$6 at $DC0035 or just call restartclock to do the job and your internal clock is back again. Alfred begin 644 restartclock M```#\P`````````#``````````(````#``````````$```/I`````Q/\``8` CW``U3G4``````_(```/J`````````_(```/K`````0```_+I ` end sorry, no signature yet :-) Domain: wfahl@informatik.rwth-aachen.de Bang : ..mcvax!unido!rwthinf!wfahl
andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel) (12/28/90)
In article <3757@rwthinf.UUCP> wfahl@rwthinf.UUCP (Wolfgang Fahl) writes: >In article <1308@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU>, bjames@lehi3b15.csee.Lehigh.EDU (Binoy James [890904]) writes: >> ... Now I get the battery backed up clock not found error when using setclock load! ... > >Your problem is that setclock searches the internal clock at two addresses, >$D80000 and $DC0000 by looking for changing register values. If your clock >is halted, setclock finds nothing !!! This was fixed a long time ago, on workbench 1.3.2; Setclock RESET just blasts away, not checking if the clock is alive. andy -- andy finkel {uunet|rutgers|amiga}!cbmvax!andy Commodore-Amiga, Inc. "And Amiga has not forgot the retailer." Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share. I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.