lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (12/28/90)
In <4601@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU>, masaru@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Masaru Sugai) writes: > >Situation: > I bought A-Talk ||| + Supra 2400 MNP for communination, and found that > A-Talk wouldn't open up dialog boxes and/or menus quite often, and I found > the title bar of WorkBench 2.0 saying that I had only a few KILO FAST RAM. > When it came to worst, I was obliged to reboot by old Vulcan nerve pinch... > >Questiions: > - Has anyone out there had similar experience described above ? I am not > sure which is responsible for such mischievous behaviour. Yes. Though I haven't run into it with Atalk in particular, it is true that some programs will not run when presented with too little ofa a particular type of memory (CHIP or FAST)/ > - What is the usage of FAST RAM in WorkBench 2.0 ? Avail tells me I have > only half MEG for FAST RAM. I called up my shop, and the guy said missing > half is used for 512K ROM which has not been installed yet for some reason. > I can't believe his explanation because it should have been the first item > in the important notice which my package came with. Believe it. Until 2.0 comes out in ROM, 512K will be eaten by the ROM contents. > - What is the safest way to reboot Amiga ? It surely has a set of buffers > for disk drives, but I couldn't find any sync and even shutdown commands > which are common in unix. Multitasking is a fun, but I hate to wish > disks to keep sleeping. Yes, it has buffers for the disk drives. They are flushed to the disk, if required, after 3 seconds of inactivity. >Minor Wishes: > I hope that they come true by next Xmas. > - memory protected AmigaDOS Not likely. Extremely unlikely. Hmm... how about 'No'. > - foolproof shutdown procedure Wait 3 seconds after the last write operation finshes. You will, if you are watching, see a short flash from the drive activity light. After this it is safe to shut down, reboot, etc. > - exact documentation (i.e. setenv functionalities) The A3000 docs are quite good. What is it you don't understand about their explanation of SetEnv? -larry -- The best way to accelerate an MsDos machine is at 32 ft/sec/sec. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
dcl@ncsc1.ATT.COM (Dave Love) (12/29/90)
In article <2435@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca> lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) writes: >In <4601@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU>, masaru@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Masaru Sugai) writes: >> >> - exact documentation (i.e. setenv functionalities) > >The A3000 docs are quite good. What is it you don't understand about their >explanation of SetEnv? If his docs are the same as mine, they still list the LOCAL environment variables under the SetEnv command, when they are actually set using the Set/UnSet commands. SetEnv just sets the GLOBAL environment variables. Likewise, the MakeLink docs are incorrect and several commands (i.e. CPU, iprefs) aren't documented at all. Several shell enhancements aren't mentioned either (backtick commands, automatic CDs, no restriction on the placement of the redirection symbol '>' on the command line, etc.). So, while the A3000 docs are very good, they are aimed at a moving target (WB 2.0), so can be a little confusing (or just plain wrong) at times. >-larry -- Dave Love UUCP: dcl@ncsc1.att.com CI$: 75126,2223 bix: dlove -- "MS-DOS... The ultimate PC virus." --
lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (12/30/90)
In <719@ncsc1.ATT.COM>, dcl@ncsc1.ATT.COM (Dave Love) writes: >In article <2435@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca> lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) writes: >>In <4601@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU>, masaru@media-lab.MEDIA.MIT.EDU (Masaru Sugai) writes: >>> >>> - exact documentation (i.e. setenv functionalities) >> >>The A3000 docs are quite good. What is it you don't understand about their >>explanation of SetEnv? > >If his docs are the same as mine, they still list the LOCAL environment >variables under the SetEnv command, when they are actually set using the >Set/UnSet commands. SetEnv just sets the GLOBAL environment variables. Hmm... the docs for SetEnv in mine speak only of global variables, while Set refers only to local variables. Time for you to get the release version of the A3000 binder perhaps? >Likewise, the MakeLink docs are incorrect ... True, and as you say, it's a moving target. Hard links work as advertised of course. > and several commands (i.e. CPU, iprefs) aren't documented at all. Ahh... right you are. > Several shell enhancements aren't >mentioned either (backtick commands, automatic CDs, no restriction on >the placement of the redirection symbol '>' on the command line, etc.). I'll take your word for it. I don't use the supplies shell. >So, while the A3000 docs are very good, they are aimed at a moving target >(WB 2.0), so can be a little confusing (or just plain wrong) at times. Agreed, but they are indeed to be counted among the best ever CBM documentation. -larry -- The best way to accelerate an MsDos machine is at 32 ft/sec/sec. +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
mndaily@ux.acs.umn.edu (Linda Seebach) (12/31/90)
In article <719@ncsc1.ATT.COM> dcl@ncsc1.ATT.COM (Dave Love) writes: >...no restriction on >the placement of the redirection symbol '>' on the command line, etc.). No restriction? Hmm. I could never get it to work if it wasn't before any "real" arguments. The same applies to a pipe. So far as I know, there is no way to set up several commands in a pipe with arguments to each of them. (i.e. wc *.c *.h | sort -n +2)... Or any way to have several completely seperate commands on a line. What ever happened to ;'s? Hmph. Better shells have been written... Like, csh. Oh, well. Can't expect perfection. Apart from that: Does anyone have a list of what the undocumented commands are? Is there any way to get 1.3 manuals with a 3000? > Dave Love > -- "MS-DOS... The ultimate PC virus." -- *giggle* --SeebS-- -- mndaily is the Minnesota Daily, and does not speak for the U of M. Linda Seebach does not speak for the Daily. --SeebS-- does not speak for Linda. Marcel Marceau speaks for no one.