seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) (12/30/90)
Has anyone else had a chance to look at the new A1084S?
They've changed it to reflect the styling of the A1950b, and it looks pretty
sharp...well, it's alittle on the chunky side, but it's a definate
improvement.
Apon closer inspection I discovered that it was more than just a new case.
The ports are in different locations, the power button is in the back, and it
has more of a well-built "feel." I didn't really notice any specific
difference in display, so it may or may not be an improvement tube-wise.
Price was still the same.
Sean
PS> The "D" designation signifies that it was manufactured by Daiwu rather
than Philips, just as the original A1084s were (rounded case like A1080).
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seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) writes: > Has anyone else had a chance to look at the new A1084S? > They've changed it to reflect the styling of the A1950b, and it looks > pretty sharp...well, it's a little on the chunky side, but it's a > definite improvement. > Upon closer inspection I discovered that it was more than just a new > case. The ports are in different locations, the power button is in the > back, Just ducky; I can live with the power switch on the A2000 being on the wrong side, since I almost never turn it off, but getting up and walking ten feet around my bookshelf and desk so I can reach the back to turn off the monitor power switch against the wall on the wrong side of the box is plain stupid ergonomic design, and I turn the monitor off whenever its not in use to preserve the screen phosphor. Stuff to be used frequently by humans should be on the side facing the human. Use the back for the wiring. I'll pass. > and it has more of a well-built "feel." I didn't really notice any > specific difference in display, so it may or may not be an improvement > tube-wise. Sure is a big loser convenience-wise. Where do they find these people? Kent, the man from xanth. <xanthian@Zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <xanthian@well.sf.ca.us>
seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) (12/31/90)
In-Reply-To: message from xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG While I'll admit that the placement of the power switch on the new A1084SD1s might be a bit inconvenient for some people, for others it makes no difference. If you're having to reach way the hell behind an A2000 to turn it off, the power switch for the moniter is just a few inches up & forward. If you use a powerstrip to bring up your whole system, it won't matter. When I leave my machine running, but don't need the display active, I just press the RGB/CVBS switch to pop it over into composite video mode...this saves me some wear-and-tear too. If it's not what you need, then vote with your wallet...but don't condemn it because it doesn't live up to your expectations of ergonomic design. Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .SIG v2.5 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< UUCP: ...!crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc RealWorld: Sean Cunningham ARPA: !crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc@nosc.mil Voice: (512) 992-2810 INET: seanc@pro-party.cts.com ____________________________________ // | * All opinions expressed herein | HELP KEEP THE COMPETITION UNDER \X/ | Copyright 1990 VISION GRAPHICS | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) (01/01/91)
seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) writes: >In-Reply-To: message from xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG > While I'll admit that the placement of the power switch on the new > A1084SD1s might be a bit inconvenient for some people, for others it > makes no difference. Many, many people have cubbyhole computer desks like mine, back to the wall, reach through access impossible; it is more than a little inconvenience, and any designer with a brain in his/her head should have known so. > If you're having to reach way the hell behind an A2000 to turn it off, > the power switch for the moniter is just a few inches up & forward. I don't think you read what I wrote. I live in a desert, and turn my A2000 off only for thunderstorms, perhaps once every two months on average; it sits on edge beside my desk, reasonably accessible. The 1084, on the other hand, I turn on and off several times a day, and having the power switch on the back would require me to rearrange my whole office to counter poor monitor design. > If you use a powerstrip to bring up your whole system, it won't matter. True, but that's not the case; a monitor is good for only a few thousand hours of use before the phosphor degrades, so turning it off when not in use makes sense. The computer, on the other hand, is much better off staying warm than being power cycled. Thus, independent convenient control makes sense for the monitor. > When I leave my machine running, but don't need the display active, I > just press the RGB/CVBS switch to pop it over into composite video > mode...this saves me some wear-and-tear too. I'm not enough convinced that would leave me a happy camper; the other common monitor degrade path is the very high voltages eroding the insulations, so I'd much rather power the unit down. If I were sure your solution weren't trying hard to to fry the monitor, I might use it, though, in preference to walking around my desk to reach the power switch. >If it's not what you need, then vote with your wallet...but don't condemn it >because it doesn't live up to your expectations of ergonomic design. Of course I will! If you don't let the brain dead of the world know they're doing a rotten job, they'll never reform their ways. Economic deprivation is a damn slow way to improve products, and wasteful as heck, too, to see another business go down the tubes for lack of direct user feedback. Kent, the man from xanth. <xanthian@Zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <xanthian@well.sf.ca.us>
jdickson@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeff Dickson) (01/05/91)
In article <1991Jan1.055234.1237@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: >seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) writes: >>In-Reply-To: message from xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG > >> While I'll admit that the placement of the power switch on the new >> A1084SD1s might be a bit inconvenient for some people, for others it >> makes no difference. > >Many, many people have cubbyhole computer desks like mine, back to the wall, >reach through access impossible; it is more than a little inconvenience, and >any designer with a brain in his/her head should have known so. > >> If you're having to reach way the hell behind an A2000 to turn it off, >> the power switch for the moniter is just a few inches up & forward. > >I don't think you read what I wrote. I live in a desert, and turn my >A2000 off only for thunderstorms, perhaps once every two months on >average; it sits on edge beside my desk, reasonably accessible. The >1084, on the other hand, I turn on and off several times a day, and >having the power switch on the back would require me to rearrange my >whole office to counter poor monitor design. > >> If you use a powerstrip to bring up your whole system, it won't matter. > >True, but that's not the case; a monitor is good for only a few thousand >hours of use before the phosphor degrades, so turning it off when not in >use makes sense. The computer, on the other hand, is much better off >staying warm than being power cycled. Thus, independent convenient >control makes sense for the monitor. > >> When I leave my machine running, but don't need the display active, I >> just press the RGB/CVBS switch to pop it over into composite video >> mode...this saves me some wear-and-tear too. > >I'm not enough convinced that would leave me a happy camper; the other >common monitor degrade path is the very high voltages eroding the >insulations, so I'd much rather power the unit down. If I were sure your >solution weren't trying hard to to fry the monitor, I might use it, >though, in preference to walking around my desk to reach the power >switch. > >>If it's not what you need, then vote with your wallet...but don't condemn it >>because it doesn't live up to your expectations of ergonomic design. > >Of course I will! If you don't let the brain dead of the world know >they're doing a rotten job, they'll never reform their ways. Economic >deprivation is a damn slow way to improve products, and wasteful as >heck, too, to see another business go down the tubes for lack of direct >user feedback. > >Kent, the man from xanth. ><xanthian@Zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <xanthian@well.sf.ca.us> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga Subject: Re: New A1084SD1 Summary: Expires: References: <6634@crash.cts.com> <1991Jan1.055234.1237@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> Sender: Reply-To: jdickson@jato.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Jeff Dickson) Followup-To: Distribution: Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA Keywords: In article <1991Jan1.055234.1237@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Kent Paul Dolan) writes: >seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) writes: >>In-Reply-To: message from xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG > >> While I'll admit that the placement of the power switch on the new >> A1084SD1s might be a bit inconvenient for some people, for others it >> makes no difference. ...you get the idea. I cannot ignore this topic any longer. Good points are made on both sides. I use a power strip. However, I have always used power strips with the built-in EMI/RFI (whatever) protection. Seems to make a difference. I have never had anything go bad. Hell, I use my original 1084 monitor on my A2000 (approx October 1985)! And, I use the Amiga pratically ever day and power it off after use each time. Jeff
seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) (01/06/91)
In-Reply-To: message from xanthian@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG I can see where this design wouldn't fit into your setup. I know several people with these types of computer desks, and it's a hassle anytime you need to get to the back for anything. I wasn't aware of the possible damage by high voltage, thank you for informing me. And I'll be sure to pass this information along to the local Ami dealer, because they run a 24hr BBS with the moniter on constantly, just kicked over into video mode like I've been doing (hehe, I used to be the SysOp and they probubly just watched _me_!). Sean >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> .SIG v2.5 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< UUCP: ...!crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc RealWorld: Sean Cunningham ARPA: !crash!pnet01!pro-party!seanc@nosc.mil Voice: (512) 992-2810 INET: seanc@pro-party.cts.com ____________________________________ // | * All opinions expressed herein | HELP KEEP THE COMPETITION UNDER \X/ | Copyright 1990 VISION GRAPHICS | >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<