[comp.sys.amiga] Slides.

skank@iastate.edu (Skank George L) (01/04/91)

In article <9811.tnews@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
>
>    Does anyone know how easy it is to get hardware attached to the Amiga
>    to create slides (the little ones) of 24-bit pictures? Product/cost
>    information would be appreciated, and email is encouraged...
>
>    Someone has mentioned the Polaroid Palette. Does anyone know what sort
>    of images that can handle?
>--

     This month's Ad World (Amiga World) has an add from a company selling
  a complete color slide system like what you are asking about (I think).
  I think the add says that the system normally retails for about $5000 but
  that it is being offered (as an intraductory promotion) for about $1000.
  I don't have the add sitting in front of me so I can't give a page number
  and I don't know if the system is 24-bit.  If people are still interested
  I'll look it up.

                                     --George




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kkrueger@zeus.unomaha.edu (01/05/91)

In article <9811.tnews@templar.actrix.gen.nz>, jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
>     Does anyone know how easy it is to get hardware attached to the Amiga
>     to create slides (the little ones) of 24-bit pictures? Product/cost
>     information would be appreciated, and email is encouraged...
> 
>     Someone has mentioned the Polaroid Palette. Does anyone know what sort

I've made quite a few slides with a 35mm camera, tripod, and telephoto lens
with surprisingly good results.  It is a bit tricky at first, but once you
get the hang of it, it becomes quite easy.  If this is for a professional
setup requiring that slides be produced en masse, this technique may not be
adequate, but for the average person, it is.  If you want more detailed info,
send me e-mail.

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jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) (01/05/91)

    Does anyone know how easy it is to get hardware attached to the Amiga
    to create slides (the little ones) of 24-bit pictures? Product/cost
    information would be appreciated, and email is encouraged...

    Someone has mentioned the Polaroid Palette. Does anyone know what sort
    of images that can handle?
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jet@karazm.math.uh.edu ("J. Eric Townsend") (01/06/91)

>In article <9811.tnews@templar.actrix.gen.nz>, jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
>     Someone has mentioned the Polaroid Palette. Does anyone know what sort

As an owner of the Palette, let me say that I'm quite happy with the system.
I got a palette used for $500 (only came with the instant-film back), spent
another $500 on the Amiga interface, and am currently ordering the 35mm
back adapter from Polaroid.  All around a good system.  My only complaints
with it have to do with the Liquid Light package (third party) that is
required to drive the hardware.  It doesn't like printing anything other
than the most default screen resolutions, you have to get your images
to a specific size before it'll handle them.  I've also had some problems
with IFF images generated by newer programs.  (No, I haven't called
the softare folks yet about this.)


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seanc@pro-party.cts.com (Sean Cunningham) (01/06/91)

In-Reply-To: message from skank@iastate.edu

 
I talked with a guy at Hammond the other day, and he'll soon be able to
generate 24bit output for slides.
 
He uses Professional Page (waiting for his 2.0 upgrade) and a PostScript film
recorder for everything.  I'm going to be sending him an IFF24 at 1280x1280
shortly.
 
I don't know what he charges per slide though, but he's sending me order forms
and info.  If someone else has dealt with Hammond, they could probubly quote
prices.
 
Sean
 
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greer@fmeed1.UUCP (Mike Greer) (01/06/91)

In article <1991Jan5.235805.24294@lavaca.uh.edu>, jet@karazm.math.uh.edu ("J. Eric Townsend") writes:
> >In article <9811.tnews@templar.actrix.gen.nz>, jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
> >     Someone has mentioned the Polaroid Palette. Does anyone know what sort
> 
> As an owner of the Palette, let me say that I'm quite happy with the system.
> I got a palette used for $500 (only came with the instant-film back), spent
> another $500 on the Amiga interface, and am currently ordering the 35mm
> back adapter from Polaroid.  All around a good system.  My only complaints
> with it have to do with the Liquid Light package (third party) that is
> required to drive the hardware.  It doesn't like printing anything other
> than the most default screen resolutions, you have to get your images
> to a specific size before it'll handle them.  I've also had some problems
> with IFF images generated by newer programs.  (No, I haven't called
> the softare folks yet about this.)

I just recieved my Art Department Pro upgrade. They sell a $200 module
for direct control of the Polaroid Pallette. The Liquid Light software does
not suport 24 bit color according the company rep I talked to on the phone
last week. I called them because of the ad in the latest AW p. 93. I was told
that if they sold enough product they would add 24 bit IFF capability. 
Eric, if you get your hands on ADPro and the PP module, let us know how well
it works.

M. Greer

 

perry@madnix.UUCP (Perry Kivolowitz) (01/07/91)

In article <1991Jan4.121055.24087@news.iastate.edu> skank@iastate.edu (Skank George L) writes:
>In article <9811.tnews@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
>>
>>    Does anyone know how easy it is to get hardware attached to the Amiga
>>    to create slides (the little ones) of 24-bit pictures? Product/cost
>>    information would be appreciated, and email is encouraged...
>>
>>    Someone has mentioned the Polaroid Palette. Does anyone know what sort
>>    of images that can handle?

The Polaroid Palette is an ancient device with only a video interface. As
such it can only supply output up to Amiga screen resolution and with no
more colors than the Amiga is capable of displaying.

>     This month's Ad World (Amiga World) has an add from a company selling
>  a complete color slide system like what you are asking about (I think).
>  I think the add says that the system normally retails for about $5000 but
>  that it is being offered (as an intraductory promotion) for about $1000.
>  I don't have the add sitting in front of me so I can't give a page number
>  and I don't know if the system is 24-bit.  If people are still interested
>  I'll look it up.

An interesting looking device. It does not specify what color capability
the unit has but does say that its interfaces to the Amiga via the serial
port. My guess is that it too is a video based film recorder...or an
extremely slow digital film recorder.

ASDG's Art Department Professional (list $240) supports Polaroid's newest
film recorder, the CI-3000 (list $4495 but possibly $3995 for Amiga people
if we negotiate well). The CI-3000 is a purely digital device which uses
33 bits-per-pixel internally for extremely precise and repeatable 24 bit 
output. It interfaces via the parallel port and is quite fast for a low
cost film recorder, a 2K by 1.5K pixel image can be transfer in less than
4 minutes.

The CI-3000 driver for ADPro lists for $200 and is available now if you
don't need a fancy box or manual, or next month if you do want a fancy
box and manual. 

The film recorder's output is as good or better than that of film recorders
costing twice as much (probably owing to the internal 33 bits per pixel 
which gives them a true 24 bit accurracy). 

I can provide more information here or via phone. (608) 273 - 6585

pk


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mark@calvin..westford.ccur.com (Mark Thompson) (01/08/91)

In article <1680@madnix.UUCP> perry@madnix.UUCP (Perry Kivolowitz) writes:
>ASDG's Art Department Professional (list $240) supports Polaroid's newest
>film recorder, the CI-3000 (list $4495 but possibly $3995 for Amiga people
>if we negotiate well). The CI-3000 is a purely digital device which uses
>33 bits-per-pixel internally for extremely precise and repeatable 24 bit 
>output. It interfaces via the parallel port and is quite fast for a low
>cost film recorder, a 2K by 1.5K pixel image can be transfer in less than
>4 minutes.

Does the ADPro CI-3000 driver do some sort of predictive interpolation
if I wanted to say image a 768 x 480 IFF24 to some higher resolution like
4K x 3K or does it simply scale the bitmap?
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jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) (01/10/91)

Quoted from <1680@madnix.UUCP> by perry@madnix.UUCP (Perry Kivolowitz):
> The Polaroid Palette is an ancient device with only a video interface. As

    Important information.

> ASDG's Art Department Professional (list $240) supports Polaroid's newest
> film recorder, the CI-3000 (list $4495 but possibly $3995 for Amiga people

    I can't email reliably to bang path style addresses, so thanks for
    this info! Looks like the last word on the high end of the subject.

    I'll pass the contact information on to the main parties involved.

> Perry Kivolowitz, ASDG Inc. ``We look for things. Things that make us go.''
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eric@remus.rutgers.edu (Eric Lavitsky) (01/10/91)

If you want to use one of the most highly acclaimed film recorders in the
"mid-range" (the LFR+ from Lasergraphics), you can do so with the CineLink
software package from Active Circuits. The LFR+ is a 4000 line film
recorder with 33 bits per pixel color lookup. A variety of film backs,
from regular 35mm and Polaroid to 4x5 and 35mm motion picture film
backs can be hooked up to it. Prices start at around $13,000.00. On the
lower cost side, CineLink also supports the Presentation Technologies
Montage FR1 - about $6,000.
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