gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) (06/14/90)
I think that it would be a good idea to start a few new Amiga newsgroups. How about comp.sys.amiga.comm (communications things: Ethernet, TCP, DNET, NFS, etc) comp.sys.amiga.os ( OS topics, Multitasking, scheduling algorithms, etc) comp.sys.amiga.graphics (you get the idea) This would help ease the load of reading since comp.sys.amiga seems to be a catch all right now. Thanks, Ralph gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu gilgalad@zip.eecs.umich.edu gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu Ralph_Seguin@ub.cc.umich.edu gilgalad@sparky.eecs.umich.edu USER6TUN@UMICHUB.BITNET Ralph Seguin | In order to get infinitely many monkeys to type 565 South Zeeb Rd. | something that actually makes sense, you need to Ann Arbor, MI 48103 | have infinitely many monkey editors as well. (313) 662-1506
UH2@psuvm.psu.edu (Lee Sailer) (06/14/90)
In article <2633@zipeecs.umich.edu>, gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) says: > >I think that it would be a good idea to start a few new Amiga newsgroups. >How about > >comp.sys.amiga.comm (communications things: Ethernet, TCP, DNET, NFS, etc) >comp.sys.amiga.os ( OS topics, Multitasking, scheduling algorithms, etc) >comp.sys.amiga.graphics (you get the idea) > Here's a good strategy for creating new groups. Try to identify some topic that is intensely interesting to the people who contribute to it, yet uninteresting to many others. Split that topic out as a new group. Personally, though I agree that c.s.a gets a lot of traffic, I don't see any topic that I would categorically skip. I don't read c.s.a.hardware, though, or c.s.a.games. Those subgroups worked good for me. lee
chymes@fribourg.csmil.umich.edu (Charles Hymes) (06/14/90)
In article <2633@zipeecs.umich.edu> gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) writes: >I think that it would be a good idea to start a few new Amiga newsgroups. >How about > >comp.sys.amiga.comm (communications things: Ethernet, TCP, DNET, NFS, etc) >comp.sys.amiga.os ( OS topics, Multitasking, scheduling algorithms, etc) >comp.sys.amiga.graphics (you get the idea) > >This would help ease the load of reading since comp.sys.amiga seems to >be a catch all right now. > > Thanks, Ralph > >gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu gilgalad@zip.eecs.umich.edu >gilgalad@caen.engin.umich.edu Ralph_Seguin@ub.cc.umich.edu >gilgalad@sparky.eecs.umich.edu USER6TUN@UMICHUB.BITNET > >Ralph Seguin | In order to get infinitely many monkeys to type I think it would be a very bad idea to start more amiga newsgroups. The porblem Ralph, is that many of us would have to convice reluctant sysops to accept these new amiga newsgroups. It took me months of haggling just to get comp.sys.amiga. Every new newsgroup would just be that much Amiga info that alot of people would miss out on. In your instance, alot of people would never be able to post or read stuff on communcations things, OS topics and or Amiga graphics. I also thing that these technical/SIG news groups would waste alot of bandwidth, because whenever there was an interaction between groups, say .comm and .graphics for X11 or .graphics and .os for screen interupts, there would be a lot of logical cross posting. Yes, comp.sys.amiga gets alot of different articles. But we can just list the headers and skip the ones we don't want to read. This is a small inconvienience compared to greatly reduceing the distribution of Amiga Info and wasting bandwidth. Three for one little computer is enough. Charlweed Hymerfan (A Major Dude)
bscott@nyx.UUCP (Ben Scott) (06/15/90)
In article <2633@zipeecs.umich.edu> gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) writes: >I think that it would be a good idea to start a few new Amiga newsgroups. > >comp.sys.amiga.comm (communications things: Ethernet, TCP, DNET, NFS, etc) >comp.sys.amiga.os ( OS topics, Multitasking, scheduling algorithms, etc) >comp.sys.amiga.graphics (you get the idea) > >This would help ease the load of reading since comp.sys.amiga seems to >be a catch all right now. If anything, comp.sys.amiga.video might be nice. I don't think c.s.amiga.games was such a good idea, really - I mean, yes, it's good to have so much of the games stuff off the main newsgroup, but on the other hand no other computer has a game group of it's own... kinda sets the Amiga apart in perhaps a way it shouldn't be distinguished. Oh, well, maybe it's just my paranoia. If there's any response to this suggestion of a Video-related newsgroup, I'll see if I can make a serious application for it. . <<<<Infinite K>>>> .---------------------------------------------------------------------------. |Ben Scott, professional goof-off and consultant at The Raster Image, Denver| |Amiga UUCP node: ...!uunet!isis!nyx!orac!bscott Else: bscott@nyx.cs.du.edu| |FIDO point address 1:104/421.2, or call the Arvada 68K BBS at (303)424-9831| |"Don't embarrass us..." "Have I ever?" - Buckaroo Banzai | *AMIGA POWER* | `---------------------------------------------------------------------------'
martens@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) (06/16/90)
In article <2633@zipeecs.umich.edu> gilgalad@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Ralph Seguin) writes: >I think that it would be a good idea to start a few new Amiga newsgroups. >How about >comp.sys.amiga.comm (communications things: Ethernet, TCP, DNET, NFS, etc) >comp.sys.amiga.os ( OS topics, Multitasking, scheduling algorithms, etc) >comp.sys.amiga.graphics (you get the idea) I'm not sure the OS group would bleed that much off, or even be well defined in the mind of Joe User. Maybe the graphics group should be called "video" or somesuch. >This would help ease the load of reading since comp.sys.amiga seems to >be a catch all right now. Another thing that would be nice would be if people would start actually using comp.sys.amiga.games. There's still a lot of game stuff cluttering comp.sys.amiga. -=- -- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu) Chemlawn, trademark, suburban distributor of toxic chemicals.
martens@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) (06/16/90)
In article <1304@nyx.UUCP> bscott@nyx.UUCP (Ben Scott) writes: >If anything, comp.sys.amiga.video might be nice. I don't think c.s.amiga.games >was such a good idea, really - I mean, yes, it's good to have so much of the >games stuff off the main newsgroup, but on the other hand no other computer >has a game group of it's own... kinda sets the Amiga apart in perhaps a way it >shouldn't be distinguished. Oh, well, maybe it's just my paranoia. Actually, this is false: take a look at comp.sys.mac.games. Or don't (I didn't). >If there's any response to this suggestion of a Video-related newsgroup, I'll >see if I can make a serious application for it. I'd vote for it. -=- -- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu) Chemlawn, trademark, suburban distributor of toxic chemicals.
chymes@fribourg.csmil.umich.edu (Charles Hymes) (06/16/90)
Jeff Martens <martens@cis.ohio-state.edu> writes: > I think I'd still vote for the new groups (especially one I wouldn't > read...) on the grounds that this would help most people and hurt just > a few (such as, unfortunately, yourself). How would these new groups really help? A busy newsgroup is really less of a nusience than a thick nespaper. It is so easy to to hit one key to skip articles. When you cut back on the distribution of the net, then you are also missing out on info that unreached people can provide. Also, new groups will NOT apprecably decrease volume on comp.sys.amiga. Specific sub groups will just be a trickle. Even more importantly, crossposting will insure an INCREASE in volume. Just look at comp.sys.amiga.hardware. Over half are crossposed to comp.sys.amiga, and/or comp.sys.amiga.tech. And a lot of the stuff on those groups should be on comp.sys.amiga. (Such as your posting to comp.sys.amiga.tech, and Raplh's posting to csa.tech AND csa!) >Another thing that would be nice would be if people would start >actually using comp.sys.amiga.games. There's still a lot of game >stuff cluttering comp.sys.amiga. Well, I am sure that most people post to csa about games, for the same reason I do, they have no acess to csa.games. Really, how can you justify to a sysop to allocate ANY diskspace to CSA.games? If the syetem is for business or research like mine, then it makes no sence to allocate resourses for such a purpose. And with that in mind, I don't think that such people such as myself are "a few". Alot of people are on commerical or research systems, and don't have big, rich universities handing out gigabytes of free disk space. In other words, there are ALOT of people who get the pain, and all for no real gain. Like I said, three newsgroups are enough for one little computer. Charlweed
OPMANOJ@ncsuvm.ncsu.edu (06/16/90)
How about a newsgroup called ...... comp.sys.amiga.tetris_clones :-) :-) :-), Manoj Patel
bscott@nyx.UUCP (Ben Scott) (06/17/90)
In article <81397@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu> Jeff Martens <martens@cis.ohio-state.edu> writes: >In article <1304@nyx.UUCP> bscott@nyx.UUCP (Ben Scott) writes: >Actually, this is false: take a look at comp.sys.mac.games. Or don't Golly! Apparently we don't get that here or something, I've never seen it. Anyway, mea culpa. >>If there's any response to this suggestion of a Video-related newsgroup, I'll >>see if I can make a serious application for it. > >I'd vote for it. OK, there's one... If anyone is interested in a newsgroup like comp.sys.amiga.video (or even, if necessary, alt.amiga.video) send me mail and if I get significant response I'll find out what's necessary to present it for a vote (I have a rough idea). . <<<<Infinite K>>>> .---------------------------------------------------------------------------. |Ben Scott, professional goof-off and consultant at The Raster Image, Denver| |Amiga UUCP node: ...!uunet!isis!nyx!orac!bscott Else: bscott@nyx.cs.du.edu| |FIDO point address 1:104/421.2, or call the Arvada 68K BBS at (303)424-9831| |"Don't embarrass us..." "Have I ever?" - Buckaroo Banzai | *AMIGA POWER* | `---------------------------------------------------------------------------'
Phil@hpd.UUCP (H Phil Duby) (06/26/90)
[...deleted...] >The group comp.sys.amiga.market would be cover subjects pertaining to the >buying and selling of amiga hardware, softwere, and peripherals. > >Possilbe subjects might include. > >1) Vendor experience > a) "I saw a real good price on X at dealer A. Is A a good dealer? > b) Quality of service, knowlege from vendors >2) Educational pricing, other marketing info from Commodore This does not apply world wide. Handle by everybody setting the distribution line correctly. :-) >3) Marketing, support tactics of various software and hardware companies. > a) is the add misleading? > b) was warrenty servies good? >4) the amiga market from the supplier view-point > a) Should I go comericial with program X? > b) who is a good company to deal with? > >Also it would be a natural group to post for sale items and related subjects. >(There was a posting to news.groups earlier asking for a good place fore these) A new group has recently been created for this. misc.forsale.computer >Let's hope it goes better this time. Last time I posted (as ..amiga.marketing) > it was pulled into a flame war. Lot's too many of those :-(( > /*/Eric Edwards c506634@umcvmb.missouri.edu or c506634@umcvmb.bitnet/*/ > /*/ "Sir, you are an excellent star ship captain /"We come in peace, /*/ > /*/ but as a taxi cab driver you leave much to / shoot to kill" /*/ >/*/ be desired" - Spock, "A Piece of the Action"/ --"Star Trekkin'"/*/ Phil ========================================================================== H. Phil Duby, Assistant librarian for AMUC (AMiga Users of Calgary) USEnet: hpd!phil.uucp@janus.mtroyal.ab.ca AMUCexpress BBS - 40meg PD Software (403) 240-2560/2085 3/12/24 bps ==========================================================================
jdickson@jpl-mil.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeff Dickson) (07/04/90)
I perform nitty-gritty programming on the Amiga (i.e. DOS devices). My single largest problem has been obtaining information on AmigaDOS internals. Most of what I know how to do came from hours upon hours of trial and error. The rest of it came from an article that appeared in Amazing Computing covering AmigaDOS packets. Now I have a different project and for the first time I've decided to use file handles. Unfortunately, but not unusual, I do not have any comprehensive material on this topic. Cer- tainly there must be a reference manual by now that covers stuff like this. I don't care about how to use AmigaDOS commands, I want to know how file handles, locks, etc interact. Please, if anyone knows of a good source, hopefully absent of the BS most publishers call AmigaDOS refer- ence material, tell me and if possible where it can be had. Thanks much, Jeff
whinery@hale.ifa.hawaii.edu (Alan Whinery) (01/11/91)
I am seeing many references to various new newsgroups that I can not read. I have added them to my .newsrc, but the newsreader says there's no such thing. Whose chain must I pull to make these new newsgroups available to me? When C.S.A goes away, I will be out of news. Alan whinery@hale.ifa.hawaii