rokicki@rocky.UUCP (03/13/87)
I am sending out copies of AmigaTeX for review and experimentation; if anyone is interested please call me at (409) 326-5312 or -5681 (home) or (409) 723-1646 (work.) No drivers will be supplied at the present time. -tom
rokicki@rocky.UUCP (03/13/87)
I'm such a doofus. An MIT person just called me and told me that I posted my telephone numbers with the (409) area code. Wrong. Those numbers are (415) 326-5312, -5681, and 723-1646. And, we are not giving out free copies of AmigaTeX; we are sending it out for people to try. If you like it, you can buy it (and support); otherwise you can send it back. If I'm not there, leave your number and I'll call you back. -tom
stergios@rocky.STANFORD.EDU (Stergios Marinopoul) (05/07/87)
In article <293@rocky.STANFORD.EDU> ali@rocky.UUCP (Ali Ozer) writes: > >In any case, if you guys are interested in *real* word processing type >software for the Amiga, there is TeX (and LaTex, if you've got 1 Meg or >more) available, you know, with a real sharp previewer and everything. >Very much like Scribe but more powerful, TeX is a real nice program for >creating technical documents and books (yes, full books). Yep, I gotta agree, Amiga TeX is the only text formater - word processor I'll ever need on the amiga. Even though I dont have the 1 meg required to run LaTeX I've been using the previewer alot to take a look at the .div files I compile on the main frame before printing them out. Keep up the good work Tom. Writing my thesis in a WYSIWYG enviornment was a big mistake. After half way through I was spending more time MacCutting and MacPasting (Tm... probably 8^) ) than I was adding to the document. > Tom Rokicki (the >author) loves spending all his free and not-so-free time optimizing the >program and making things run faster! Again, I gotta agree. I have never seen anyone so exicted as they cut down the size or speed up a program as Tom is when he cuts off his daily bytes and gains those daily secs. >In any case, the availability >of TeX for the Amiga is advertised as well as the Amiga itself is; so >not many people might know about it... (If you're interested, you >should contact Tom Rokicki, rokicki@sushi.stanford.edu. I know he is >on the net as well, but he is just too busy hacking (and too modest) to >say something about TeX himself... So I take the liberty.) > >Ali Ozer, ali@rocky.stanford.edu I took the liberty too. Stergios Marinopoulos S&M Engineering -- % UUCP: !decwrl!rocky.stanford.edu!stergios % % ARPA: f.flex@othello.stanford.edu % % USnail: Crothers Memorial #690, Stanford, CA. 94305 % % Pa Bell: (415) 326-9051 %
jimh@hpsadla.HP (Jim Horn) (05/07/87)
----- Try AmigaTeX. You'll be right back at home.... Jim "No relationship to Radical Eye - just delighted with TeX" Horn
rokicki@rocky.STANFORD.EDU (Tomas Rokicki) (07/10/87)
% 1) Do these TeX's produce .dvi files just like standard tex? % (i.e. not 'improved'). If so, we can use the dvi2ps program % (which i think was posted not long ago, we have it here) % to drive a Laser Writer, or the dviqms program we have here to % drive the qms 800s. Yes, the .dvi files produced are identical to the ones produced by any other implementation of TeX. You can use dviqms and dvi2ps after kermitting up the .dvi files. You can even borrow the laser and use the Amiga dvips to print it out from your Amiga. (If you are still using dviqms, there is a new version called dvilg which supports pk files, among other things; call Norm Naugle.) % 2) When you say you run on a 2-drive system, is that with .5Mb % or do you need more ram? You can run AmigaTeX on a 2-drive system with .5Mb, you just can't run off extremely large documents, nor can you use LaTeX. % 3) What is the largest document you have produced? Can i run % off a 60-page chapter, for example? What resource is consumed % fastest, disk or RAM? Are those disks so full of fonts and % such that my .tex files have to be really small? I have run off 80-page technical reports with no problem. The biggest limitation is the size of the .dvi file produced (which matches the .dvi files produced on other systems); it must fit on a floppy or RAM. If you run a two-drive system, you can easily run off 60-page documents with 512K; with more, change your working directory to RAM so the .dvi file gets created there and you can run even larger documents. % I am really tempted by the $200 price; the earlier price of $350 % was just too high. Also, i think if i could show people around % here AmigaTex, with previewer, and then tell them they could % build such a system for under $2000, that they would be sold. The price was *never* $350. Initially it was $300, but everyone who paid that should have gotten a $100 rebate, unasked for. One last comment. If anyone is interested printing with AmigaTeX directly to a dot-matrix printer, please consider a 24-pin printhead printer. They are much cleaner, faster, and generate much prettier output than any other dot-matrix printers.
sat@unicus.UUCP (10/31/87)
Keywords:
I looking for a version of TeX for the Amiga. I know one exists, but
I don't have the foggiest idea of where I can find it. Can someone
please tell me where I can get more information about Amiga TeX?
Please reply only by mail.
Thanks.
Scott.
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BITNET: THURLOW at UTORGPU (you figure this out)rokicki@rocky.STANFORD.EDU (Tomas Rokicki) (11/03/87)
[ If commercial postings offend you, hit `n' ] AmigaTeX is alive and well, just being slightly delayed due to some legal hassles. Demo disks are free. For pricing or just a chat, call Tom Rokicki, (415) 326-5312, and leave a message on my machine. The old release is available to anyone not patient enough to wait; the new release (with new fonts, LaTeX, AMSTeX, lots of new features, etc.) I am most fervently working on . . . call me. -tom
rokicki@rocky.STANFORD.EDU (Tomas Rokicki) (12/17/87)
This is in reply to another posting inquiring about AmigaTeX. AmigaTeX is alive and well, having just come into another release. Free demo disks are available by writing to Tomas Rokicki, Box 2081, Stanford, CA 94305. It is a complete package, including TeX, iniTeX, LaTeX, a previewer, BibTeX, AMSTeX, and over 1200 previewer fonts. Printer drivers are also available for the Epson LQ series, NEC P6/P7 series, ImageWriter II, PostScript printers, Epson ?X series, QMS Kiss and SmartWriter, and a few other printers. The package itself sells for $200; printer drivers for $100. Other terms are available for site licensing or sales to Stanford or Texas A&M students, faculty, or staff, or on goverment contracts. Ask for a demo disk and determine for yourself whether it is worth the price. It is currently being sold by $n^2$ Computer Consultants, Box 2736, College Station, TX 77841. As the author of the package, I would probably be better to write to for information. -tom \input\jobname
grant@hpindda.HP.COM (Grant Haidinyak) (12/19/87)
Do you know if there is a printer driver for the HP series of laser printers
(HP+ HP II ...)? If there are, I might be persuaded to buy Tex.
Thanks
Grantrokicki@polya.Stanford.EDU (Tomas G. Rokicki) (06/25/88)
For information on AmigaTeX, write Radical Eye Software,
Box 2081, Stanford, CA~~94309.
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V | won't get dressed \XX/Fighting For An Acronym-Less Worldsmaug@eneevax.UUCP (Kurt Lidl) (08/23/88)
In article <25755@ucbvax.BERKELEY.EDU> carlson@ernie.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Richard L. Carlson) writes: >In article <1807@kalliope.rice.edu> phil@Rice.edu (William LeFebvre) writes: >>In article <2993@haven.umd.edu> louie@trantor.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) writes: >>> I suppose that if I really begin to do serious TeX work, I'll >>>probably spend the $200 and buy AmigaTeX. If the demo version on one >>>of the Fish disks is any indication, its is a wonderful product. >>[much well-deserved praise deleted] >But, of course, the speed of AmigaTeX depends greatly on how you have your >Amiga environment set up. A couple of comments (that might be obvious to >some, but hopefully will help others) -- if you have enough memory, REZ >AmigaTeX, and it will start up instantly; similarly, put the format files >in RAM: if you can; and I usually keep my TeX source file (and therefore >TeX's output files) in VD0:. I only have floppies; and any disk I/O really >slows things down (since TeX, like a compiler, does a lot of I/O); of >course, if you have a hard disk (especially with the FFS :-) this will >be less of an issue. I recently bought AmigaTeX. I agree it is a great product, and one of the nicest implementations of TeX I have had the pleasure of using. However, with all things, I feel the need to tweak the system. So I got out the ARP disk that has the latest and greatest on it, and got to work on installing ARP. Once I have *that* up and running, I go to me Startup-Sequence and start fooling with it. Put in various environment variables: Put in new cshrc files for my startup and dmouse pop-windows Automagically open new cli for AmigaTeX and then try to ARUN the previewer. My B2000 then faithfully gives me a task held requestor every time I try to boot the machine. After fiddling with this and that for many hours on two consectutive nights, I have figured out the problem, and a solution. Now for the solution. Simply use Run (AmigaDOS version) to run the previewer - it doesn't like the ARP arun command. Now what I wish to know is WHY the previewer is allergic to arun? Also, if you RUN preview, there is no entry for its task in the ps command of M. Dillon's csh (keep up the excellent work, Matt). Does it somehow disconnect itself from the calling CLI? Or am I missing something here? At any rate, I would like to know why this happens. Other than that and an annoying problem using the epson dvidot driver on my panasonic 1091 (printout is way over to the right side of the paper), it is a great program. If you need to TeX, use AmigaTeX! (I'm just a relatively happy customer of Radical Eye software.) If you are really serious, get the latest upgrade of AmigaTeX, there is a new option that will load the format file just once, in the beginning of the load of TeX. It works great and after I get it all in ram, I never go to the floppy at all (except to access the fonts). All you have to do is newcli a window and run TeX in that. Then you have an optimal solution (unless you want to TeX a couple of documents at once :-) >By the way, I can't wait to see Tom's previewer running on a Hedley monitor! Me too! >-- Richard -- ================================================================== == Kurt J. Lidl (smaug@eneevax.umd.edu) (301)663-2332 == == UUCP: [seismo,allegra]!umcp-cs!eneevax!smaug == ========"It's after 3am, no point in going to sleep now..."=======
rokicki@polya.Stanford.EDU (Tomas G. Rokicki) (08/24/88)
Tom, the Rock Icky of the Big Head responds: > Automagically open new cli for AmigaTeX and then try to > ARUN the previewer. My B2000 then faithfully gives me > a task held requestor every time I try to boot the machine. Very strange; thanks, I'll try and track it down. The previewer now automagically detaches itself from its parent CLI thanks to Manx 3.6a DETACH. So you should be able to just `preview', and everything should be hunky-dory. (I'm working hard on new docs at the moment.) > At any rate, I would like to know why this happens. Other than > that and an annoying problem using the epson dvidot driver on my > panasonic 1091 (printout is way over to the right side of the paper), That darned printer. Compatibility bugs are everywhere. I try to make the drivers fast through all sorts of optimizations, and then all the compatibles break. John Toebes has agreed to send me one of the beasts, so I should be able to fix the problems soon. Thanks for all the great comments, guys! And remember, if you have a problem with the programs, I can't fix it unless you let me know. Keep those cards and letters coming! -tom
smaug@eneevax.UUCP (Kurt Lidl) (08/24/88)
In article <3711@polya.Stanford.EDU> rokicki@polya.Stanford.EDU (Tomas G. Rokicki) writes: >> [complaints about my Panasonic 1091] >That darned printer. Compatibility bugs are everywhere. I try to >make the drivers fast through all sorts of optimizations, and then >all the compatibles break. John Toebes has agreed to send me one of >the beasts, so I should be able to fix the problems soon. Great! Now I don't know exactly what types of "optimizations" you make with the driver, but prehaps you "de-optimize"{it and just do plain vanilla (obviously, not really, after all it IS a dvi driver!) dump of the constructed .bit file to the printer. If it helps at all, I have one of the very first units of the 1091 sold in tis country. (IE - mine was purchased within 2 weeks of the initial release in the Greater Washington D.C. area. This was way back in high school. I guess that makes the printer 4 or 5 years old by now... If you need info regarding ROM revision numbers, etc - E-Mail me. >Thanks for all the great comments, guys! And remember, if you >have a problem with the programs, I can't fix it unless you let >me know. Keep those cards and letters coming! Personally, I will keep writing E-Mail. Also, is there a reason that the number in the docs for the answering machine doesn't answer? >-tom -Kurt -- ================================================================== == Kurt J. Lidl (smaug@eneevax.umd.edu) (301)663-2332 == == UUCP: [seismo,allegra]!umcp-cs!eneevax!smaug == ========"It's after 3am, no point in going to sleep now..."=======
rokicki@polya.Stanford.EDU (Tomas G. Rokicki) (08/25/88)
> Also, is there a reason that the > number in the docs for the answering machine doesn't answer? I moved this weekend, and there was a short period of time from when Pac Bell moved the phone service and when I moved the telephone. My apologies. My new telephone number is even easier to remember; simply dial (415) 32-AMIGA. The old number of 326-5312 will still work. Please try to speak slowly and clearly when leaving a telephone number, folks; I get at least a call a week with a telephone number I can't decipher. -tom
adjones@mcnc.org (Amy D. Jones) (03/08/89)
Okay, I've heard several people talking about how nice TeX is...so how do I get it? Would this be suitable for writing my doctoral dissertation (in physical chemistry/microelectronics)--or should I tackle WordPerfect instead. I imagine that either would do--but I also imagine that TeX is probably cheaper (?). ......aTdHvAaNnKcSe......................<<<<<< Amiga Amy >>>>>>............ <<<<<< I guess I need to formulate a really neat signature RSN. >>>>>>>
sterling@cbmvax.UUCP (Rick Sterling QA) (03/08/89)
In article <4144@alvin.mcnc.org> adjones@mcnc.org (Amy D. Jones) writes: > Okay, I've heard several people talking about how nice TeX is...so how do I > get it? Would this be suitable for writing my doctoral dissertation (in > physical chemistry/microelectronics)--or should I tackle WordPerfect > instead. I imagine that either would do--but I also imagine that TeX is > probably cheaper (?). > > ......aTdHvAaNnKcSe......................<<<<<< Amiga Amy >>>>>>............ I've been using AmigaTeX here for the last couple weeks and can say it is eminently suitable for your stated requirements. ( Hint... use THESIS.STY ;-)) The programs real power is typesetting complex or long technical documents... areas where you'd go `zonkers' using a word processor or desk-top publishing program. You might want to go browse through `The TeXbook' by Donald Knuth at your local university bookstore. AmigaTeX is available from Radical Eye Software, Box 2081, Stanford, CA 94309 voice phone- (415)-32-AMIGA BBS- (415)-32-RADIO ( cute, eh? ) Disclaimer: I am just a satified user of the program and have no connection with any of the above entities.
ejkst@cisunx.UUCP (Eric J. Kennedy) (03/09/89)
In article <4144@alvin.mcnc.org> adjones@mcnc.org (Amy D. Jones) writes: >Okay, I've heard several people talking about how nice TeX is...so how do I >get it? Would this be suitable for writing my doctoral dissertation (in >physical chemistry/microelectronics)--or should I tackle WordPerfect ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ interesting combination... >instead. I imagine that either would do--but I also imagine that TeX is >probably cheaper (?). Ack, phooey, no! Not WordPerfect! Not for technical writing. I bought WP (through the student discount, of course) and have used it only for a few letters and my resume. Serious stuff I only do with AmigaTeX. I'm writing a materials science master's thesis, and it suits my needs wonderfully. AmigaTeX is from Radical Eye Software Box 2081 Stanford, CA 94309 The author is Tomas Rokicki, who is here on the net. (and who will probably also answer your posting...) If you haven't used it before...well...TeX is different. Ask Tom for the demo disk before laying out any money, and maybe check out "The TeXBook", by Donald Knuth, and/or "LaTeX, A Document Preparation System" to get the flavor of what you'd be getting into. As for price, TeX is $200, plus printer drivers are $100 each if you need one. Also plan on getting one or both of the above books. WordPerfect is $395 list, but can be had for around $200-$250. (The student discount price was $99, but I don't know if that still exists.) I wouldn't mess around with WP, though. Good luck, -- Eric Kennedy ejkst@cisunx.UUCP
wbralick@afit-ab.arpa (Will Bralick) (05/11/89)
In article <8036@killer.Dallas.TX.US> elg@killer.Dallas.TX.US (Eric Green) writes:
)For heavy-duty tasks (e.g. 100 page manuals), TeX/LaTex is more likely
)to be satisfying than Excellence. For shorter messages with imbedded
)Amiga graphics, a desktop-publishing package such as, e.g., PageStream
)(when they get all the bugs out), will do much better. Excellence is
)really of use only when you want all of the above, and it's not really
)satisfying for anything larger than a form letter. And if TeX had
)graphics capabilities (does AmigaTeX? The version I've used under Unix
)doesn't), you wouldn't want Excellence even for that.
I've used a SUN TeX system (written by somebody with the initials T.R.:-)
and it has something called FIG that you can use to do graphics and
embed them in you document. Is this available for the Amy?
Regards,
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wbralick@blackbird.afit.af.mil | luxury than of arms, they lose
wbralick@afit-ab.arpa | their state.
with disclaimer; use disclaimer; | - Niccolo Machiavellirminnich@super.ORG (Ronald G Minnich) (05/18/89)
In article <1095@afit-ab.arpa> wbralick@blackbird.afit.af.mil (Will Bralick) writes: >I've used a SUN TeX system (written by somebody with the initials T.R.:-) >and it has something called FIG that you can use to do graphics and >embed them in you document. Is this available for the Amy? well, i mentioned this a few months ago, try again. 1) Port stdwin to amiga 2) fix fig so it talks stdwin. Fig will then run on X, mac, pc, and amiga 3) have a nice time with fig and tex! ron
new@udel.EDU (Darren New) (05/19/89)
In article <9303@super.ORG> rminnich@metropolis.UUCP (Ronald G Minnich) writes: >1) Port stdwin to amiga >2) fix fig so it talks stdwin. Fig will then run on X, mac, > pc, and amiga Sorry to do this, but I am very interrested in getting a window manager which will run on amigas and macs and X and PCs and ... I would have paid more attention to the previous threads, except that they all seemed to be referenceing stdwin in reference to Smalltalk, which is another beast entirely. Can somebody send me information on where to get this stdwin thing? Thanks!!! -- Darren
peter@sugar.hackercorp.com (Peter da Silva) (05/22/89)
You can get STDWIN from the alt.sources.amiga archive on uunet. It's in ~/amiga-sources/stdwin/... use FTP DIR or download ~/ls-lR.Z to get all teh file names. -- Peter "Have you hugged your wolf today" da Silva `-_-' ...texbell!sugar!peter, or peter@sugar.hackercorp.com 'U`
rokicki@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Tomas G. Rokicki) (09/17/89)
For a free demo disk and further information on AmigaTeX, please drop a postcard with your name and address to Radical Eye Software, Box 2081, Stanford, CA~~94309. This is *free* and will answer most questions. -tom
rokicki@Neon.Stanford.EDU (Tomas G. Rokicki) (01/16/91)
>I've got some beginner-type questions about TeX: > 1) What software is available? (Commercial, pd, ftp addresses...) AmigaTeX is available from Radical Eye Software. I'm not sure where to get any public domain versions of TeX for the Amiga. > 2) What special hardware is required? (Monitors, memory, printers...) A megabyte of memory and two floppy disks will run AmigaTeX. A hard disk is always nice, and the more memory you throw at the program, the better it works. > 3) Do you need a laser printer, or can you get reasonable output on a > dot-matrix printer? You can definitely get reasonable output on a dot-matrix, especially a 24-pin printer. The DeskJet (and relatives) also generates wonderful output. > 4) Why on earth does D. Knuth say that it should be pronounced 'tek'? ;) Actually, `tech', with a hard `ch'---he wrote the program, he can call it what he wants. :-) For a free demo disk of AmigaTeX, just send your name and address to Radical Eye Software, Box 2081, Stanford, CA 94309.