cthkl@tekno.chalmers.se (02/15/89)
In article <8677@louie.udel.EDU>, smith@aic.nrl.navy.mil (Russ Smith) writes: > [this note sent to the generic Internet address "amiga-relay"] > > I just FTPed over to xanth and grabbed the AmigaUUCP files (two arc > files containing individually two WARP files. Contained in file 2 > was a readme and an executable, warp, as well). > > Well, I just did a "strings" command (UNIX machine) of the warp executable and > saw: > > . > . > . > > \ORm > T@2- > TON]NuSCA!SCA! > Virus by Byte > LSD!LSD! > Byte Bandit > %sWARP v1.2A: > %s A floppy disk %stracker%s and %scompressor%s.%s > ---------------------------------------%s > READ > Bad arguments for READ. > . > . > . > > Pardon, but I know little about Warp. Does it contain the above "SCA!..." > stuff on purpose (like for pattern matching)? I noticed that later on > it has a string that says something like "Sorry Bud, but this disk is > infected..." or something. > > Anywho, I won't be dewarping those files til I get a good answer... > > Thanks for any response. > =========================================================== > > ...uunet!mimsy!nrl-aic!hengeema!smith > / ^^^^^^^^ > Russ Smith - a.k.a. | > \ |--- Amiga! > smith@aic.nrl.navy.mil
clwa@me.chalmers.se (08/02/89)
Try this:
1> MAKEDIR :top
1> MAKEDIR :top/sub
Assign a couple of drawer icons to top and sub (use ICONMK, or what
ever).
1> LOADWB
Open "root", top and sub drawers, put the top icon on the sub icon,
close sub, top and "root". Open "root", do you see the top icon?, NO!
As you understand what i have done is to put the top directory into the
sub directory thus causing it to vanish.
Is this a WORKBENCH feature? or could it be called bug?
Are there any way to get down to sub, when top is sort of gone?
Claes Walther
CLWA@Gamma.Me.Chalmers.Se
Chalmers University of Technology
G|teborg Sweden
***** We don't do disclaimers in Sweden, we only spell wrong *****PKONTKANEN@cc.helsinki.fi (10/20/89)
In article <67100005@sts>, galvey@sts.sts.COM writes: > /* Written by jwhitman@stl-06sima.army.mil */ > /* ---------- "Basic program questions" ---------- */ > > > >[Window stuff deleted] > > > >Different subject! The program I am working on is too large to load > >without increasing the stack and data areas with the clear command. > >I have put the clear command in the top of the program but as I suspected > >it made no difference because it was not executed until the program was > >fully loaded. That prevents me from running the program from an icon. > >If I start up BASIC and issue the clear command in immediate mode I can > >load and run the program just fine. How can I start up BASIC from an > >icon and get it to recognize the increased space? If I cannot do that > >then perhaps this is a good candidate for CHAIN or MERGE. Any ideas?? > > > I had the same problem when a program I was working on got to be larger than > 25K. After a while I figured out what to do to make it run. I simply made a > "loader" program (it runs when you click the icon). All the LOADER does is > CLEAR enough space (using the CLEAR command) and then loads & runs the "MAIN" > program. I don't recall what command is used to load & run the main program. > > One thing to watch out for - I made a custom ICON for the loader program (it > looked like a business form), and it got wiped out whenever I did an EDIT > after running the program (BASIC EDITOR replaced loader.info instead of > main.info). I finally made a copy of the ICON & copied it when I was done > editing for the day. > > Another possible option is to get a Basic compiler! I have thought about this > but can't seem to get motivated since I started looking at C. > > >[more stuff deleted] > > >Thanks for your patience and for the usual excellent response. > > > >Regards, Jerry. > > Hope I have helped. > > Greg A. > > ============================================================================= > |Greg Alvey | Internet: galvey@sts.sts.COM | > |Semiconductor Test Solutions | Phone : (408) 727-2885 (work) | > |4101 Burton Dr. | | > |Santa Clara, CA 95054 | When all else fails, read the instructions! | > =============================================================================
01scot@ac.dal.ca (12/01/89)
Sorry to waste net bandwidth, but my mailer has been acting up recently. Brad, I am still interested in purchasing the system. I cannot reach you via jbh%trsvax%texbell ... address. Please email the address used in your initial posting. My address is campbell@ug.cs.dal.ca. Thanks, Scot Campbell
v144nsu6@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu (02/08/90)
Dear Amiga Users - In response to your questions on interlace flicker. The Non flickering interlace graphics mode will be released with the new AmigaDOS 1.4 -- contrary to popular belief that the new 1 MEG Agnus chip will due the trick. I myself have the 1 meg agnus in my a500. It does nothing to relieve flicker. The Agnus Chip is only responsible for animation and memory addressing- not graphics resolutions. That is Denise's job. FYI MD v144nsu6@ubvmsd
hjeisen@athena.mit.edu (Howard J Eisen) (02/23/90)
Subject:Discounts and trades Date: Thu, 22 Feb 90 18:00:42 GMT Lines: 17 Sorry to bring this up as I see there has been a lot of flaming on this subject, but I came into the fray a little late. Can someone tell me what the educational discount prices are (the Microcomputer center at MIT does not carry Amiga) and what is the current state of the A1000 trade-ins? Also, does anyone know if there is a legal all-software version of AMAX? If you don't want to waste space on the board, reply directly to hjeisen@athena.mit.edu heisen@nasamail.jpl.nasa.gov Thanks.
hamish@waikato.ac.nz (02/26/90)
Let the man kow he sez what we want to see. Don't know if this is going to get out of here but I'll give it a go anyway. Ken from Commodore writes that we should just let him know if there is anything that we really want on the amiga. How about memory protection (On 020 & 030) for memory that isn't declared as MEMF_PUBLIC. This would mean an end to trashing other programs code & libraries, as well as the system& user stack for tasks & processes. I saw mention somewhere in the past that mem protection wouldn't work because MEMF_PUBLIC is supposed to be just that public. I say that it doesn't matter if it is suppoed to be public. Just provide protection (ie BERR ) for memory not your own or PUBLIC & we'll be away. Surely somebody at CATS is able to do this for machines with an MMU. PS. Could somebody tell me where the 68881/882 is supposed to be decoded in the 68000/010 address space. Hamish Marson. University of Waikato, Hamilton New Zealand hamish@waikato.ac.nz
valentin@cbmvax.commodore.com (Valentin Pepelea) (02/27/90)
In article <184.25e933aa@waikato.ac.nz> hamish@waikato.ac.nz writes: > >How about memory protection (On 020 & 030) for memory that isn't declared as >MEMF_PUBLIC. This would mean an end to trashing other programs code & >libraries, as well as the system& user stack for tasks & processes. I saw >mention somewhere in the past that mem protection wouldn't work because >MEMF_PUBLIC is supposed to be just that public. Exactly. There is no point providing memory protection at all, if one part of memory cannot be protected. As long as public memory is free to be stomped by anybody, a crash is still unrecoverable. >PS. Could somebody tell me where the 68881/882 is supposed to be decoded in > the 68000/010 address space. It depends on the hardware, i.e. how you attached the 68881 to the 68010. (not 68000) The IEEE math libraries get only a 50% with a 68881 attached to a 68010, compared to a bare 68000. The slowness comes from the fact that the coprocessor interface has to be made in software on the 68010. If you want speed imprevement, you defenitely have to take advantage of the 68020's microcoded coprocessor interface. Valentin -- The Goddess of democracy? "The tyrants Name: Valentin Pepelea may distroy a statue, but they cannot Phone: (215) 431-9327 kill a god." UseNet: cbmvax!valentin@uunet.uu.net - Ancient Chinese Proverb Claimer: I not Commodore spokesman be
hjeisen@athena.mit.edu (Howard J Eisen) (03/02/90)
Subject:Another amiga for Sale Lines: 14 Yes, it is true. I am going to upgrade from my 1000 to a 2500, but under the educational discount plan. As a result, my trusty A1000 is up for sale. So if anyone is interested in buying my 1000 (either to use themselves, or perhaps to use to save money in the upgrade offer) let me know via e-mail. A1000 w/ 1.3 512K A1080 Monitor Mouse and manuals Howard Jay Eisen "take a balloon and go sailing"
drtiller@uokmax.uucp (Donald Richard Tillery Jr) (06/14/90)
Summary:How about some advice from the experts! Dave Haynie?
Sender: Rick Tillery
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK
Subject:2 Meg Chip RAM on Amiga 2000/500
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 90 22:49:10 GMT
I saw Mr. Haynie was on here and couldn't help but wonder if he could answer my
question about whether it is possible to "hack" 2 Megs of Chip RAM out of an
Amiga 2000/500. Is the "Fatter Agnus" the same Agnus as the one in the 3000
that is capable of addressing 2 Megs of chip RAM? If I do a piggy-back on the
motherboard, can I attach the select line to an extra address line on it and
have my desired double memory or am I (proverbially) "spitting into the wind?"
Rick Tillery
"I refuse to donate an aloft fornication!" - Medaveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) (06/14/90)
In article <1990Jun13.224910.10653@uokmax.uucp> drtiller@uokmax.uucp (Donald Richard Tillery Jr) writes: >...question about whether it is possible to "hack" 2 Megs of Chip RAM out of >an Amiga 2000/500. Possible? Yes. Practical? Roughly as practical as "The Rejuvinator" or other add-ons. >Is the "Fatter Agnus" the same Agnus as the one in the 3000 that is capable >of addressing 2 Megs of chip RAM? I don't know fat from felgercarb. There are four basic Agnus revisions, one in the "thin" 48 pin package, three in the "fat" 84 pin package. The three 84 pin versions I call 512K, 1Meg, and 2Meg Agnus, respectively. Some Chip people probably call the latter two "Super" Agnus. In any case, 512K and 1Meg Fat Agnus are pin compatible. 2Meg Fat Agnus is the one used in the A3000, and it's not plug compatible with an A500 or A2000 Fat Agnus. >If I do a piggy-back on the motherboard, can I attach the select line to an >extra address line on it and have my desired double memory or am I >(proverbially) "spitting into the wind?" First of all, you can't piggyback anything on an A2000 or A500 that uses the 256K x 1 parts. Agnus couldn't drive 64 memory chips directly. As for the machines with 256k x 4 parts, a piggyback would at least have a chance of working. However, 2Meg Agnus drives things differently than 1Meg Agnus, so you're going to need some external logic. 2Meg Agnus is really only designed to directly drive 16 1Meg x 1 parts. The A3000 supports 256K x 4 parts, but via external logic. That's not a big deal on the 3000, since extra logic was necessary anyway to get the 16 bit Agnus to talk to the 3000's 32 bit Chip bus. So you're not going to get 2 Megs of Chip RAM on any 500 or 2000 without considerable hacking. Not that there's anything wrong with considerable hacking if you don't mind the risks involved. > Rick Tillery -- Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests" {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh PLINK: hazy BIX: hazy "I have been given the freedom to do as I see fit" -REM
BAXTER_A@wehi.dn.mu.oz (06/15/90)
ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS ABOUT MULTIPLOT The email survey on data plotting prompted a number of queries about Multiplot which I will now answer. When is the next version out? It is finished, and is entering the final beta. I usually get it tested by an enthusiastic local for a week or to before distributing to overseas beta testers. Does Multiplot support high quality output? It supports the highest possible resolution of any preferences printer via PLT:. It can also output HPGL, Draw, mCAD, IntroCAD formats. Postscript support is slated for the next version. Does it clip at plot margins? Yes, the new version clips properly. Does it cut and paste to other programs? Multiplot uses the clipboard to transfer data as ascii codes so that data may be entered very easily from documents, spreadsheets etc. It does not export the graphics either as vector or bit map via the clip- board. This can be achieved by saving as a data file in the appropriate format. Does it use different line types? Yes. Does it plot differential equations/quadratics etc? No. Multiplot does not plot formulae, but data. If the formula is used in a spreadsheet or simple program (basic/rexx) the input file format for Multiplot is easy to create. Does it have default settings to enable quick visualisation of data? Yes. The orriginal "How to plot" window has been removed. Is it commercial or PD? Neither. Multiplot is freely distributable under specific conditions including that it must not be distributed for profit. All rights to program and code are retained by its authors. Does it handle scientific notation? Yes. Does it have 2 Y axes? No. This is the second request for this feature. I'll give it some thought. Can you colour the dots by a third parameter? The way I suggest you do this is load the data into a spread sheet, sort on the 3rd parameter, choose you ranges for the third parameter and place a blank line between each of the ranges. Save or clip the other two parameters, and load into Multiplot. Each range will appear as a different data set in a different colour. Does it handle error bars properly? Yes. Can it handle >2000 points? I think so. I don't have any data that big. Expect it to be slow. Can it superimpose plots on the screen? So long as they use the same axes, Yes. Does it handle histograms? No. It does handle survival (step) curves. Bar plots are slated for the next version. Can it read ascii files? Yes. Any plans for 3D/Contour/Polar/Wankfarnuncle Plots? Not unless people pay me lots of money. Can it plot log data? No. It does not support log axes. Next version. Can the user specify the minimum and maximum vales on the axes? Yes. Does it have interactive editing of title/axis labels/ extra text? Yes. Multiplot has a Select/action stype interface. That's it. Thanks for the interest. Regards Alan
IO91461@MAINE.BITNET (Tom Nezwek) (07/08/90)
Subject:Lets make a list of Games that work on HD & 3000
Distribution: usa
References: <1990Jul7.202749.7935@uokmax.uucp>
Have you ever bought a game with the intention of putting it on
your Hard Drive?? And then found out when you get home that it can't
be copied to HD... Its happened to me and I'm tired of paying $40 per
game only to wait 5 min between Disk I/O's when I have an able HD just
begging for games to be installed... Anyhow If we get a list of games
that do work on HD (and the 3000 for that matter) we'll know which ones
To buy and which ones to avoid.... Send me your list of games that work
on HD and I'll Post One great big listing from week to week. Also include
wheather it is 3000 Compatible (if known) and I'll Post that....
This will help many people avoid dis-satisfied Purchases...
Partial List:
WORK on HD 3000 Compatible
------------ -----------------
Battle Chess ?
Zany Golf YES
Jetsons ?
Roger Rabbit ?
Leader Board Golf ?
Sky Chase ?
Gunship ?
TestDrive II ?
Dragon's Lair II ?
Leisure Suit Larry ?
Send me your success stories so I can Update this List!
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cccX/// /----c | | | | | /----c -Later
\XXX/ / \ | | | |____| / \ -TOM IO91461@maine.bitnet
SLMT9@cc.usu.edu (07/13/90)
Hi there again. My question this time is this. I need the actual UNCOMPRESS program to undo .
chymes@fribourg.csmil.umich.edu (Charles Hymes) (07/14/90)
Subject:What a little bird told me about UNIX... Date: Fri, 13 Jul 90 15:45:05 GMT A well placed little bird told me that AT & T Unix version 4 release 5 will be released at the begining of next month. It will be REAL unix, binary compatable with many other 68k platforms, and supporting X windows, TCP-IP, and loths of other network stuff. It will run on any 68020+ Amiga but needs a big hard drive, lots of ram, and very likely a tape drive. It exists, and has existed awhile, but politics prevented its earlier release. As it is Commodore will be the first to release a platform the runs the latest and greatest version of Unix. BUT, little birds are not always smart, and somtimes they lie. Charlweed Hymerfan, A Major Dude
arc@desire.wright.edu (07/15/90)
Something else I'd like on JR-Comm is better handling of the serial.device. I've seen many terminals handle it PERFECTLY... Meaning, when I have a term running at a 0 priority and I send something up with ZModem, if I move windows around, etc., the dang thing sending PAUSES!!! Also, try this with any 99? or 1.00, if you are getting data through the screen (getting an FTP file listing say), and you flip back and forth to the WB and the JRComm's screen, you'll see data loss here and there. EVEN if you are running NOTHING else in the background. NOW, a Mac or IBM person might put up with this, BUT US AMIGA USERS?!?!?! HELL NO! Right PEOPLE?! I wish I could program well, 'cause I'd write the most AWSOME terminal on the market in %100 ML (assembly)... IT WOULD have EVERYTHING. PS, I wish J. Radigan would make his file requestor a REAL requestor instead of that thing ALWAYS updating. His requestor SHOULD act JUST like the requestor on Cygnus Ed II... I will FTP a demo of the requestor to "xanth.cs.odu.edu" soon... Lata! ------------------------------------------------------------------------ = /// | Jim Perry | Arc@Desire.Wright.edu = = /// Amiga! | ^Communications Consultant| -or- = = \XX/ The One | Arc Electronics, Inc. | Arc@WSU.BITNET = = ____& Only... | Wright State University |"Ouch! Quit-it." - Bart= = | Dayton, Ohio | Frank Sinatra Rules = ========================================================================
ung@felix.UUCP (Bill Ung) (07/20/90)
In article <835.26a02788@desire.wright.edu> arc@desire.wright.edu writes: > > > Something else I'd like on JR-Comm is [bitching and moaning deleted] >I wish I could program well, 'cause I'd >write the most AWSOME terminal on the market in %100 ML (assembly)...IT WOULD >have EVERYTHING. Is this a real post? Sorry, but this is probably the WORST post I've ever seen on c.s.a.anything. I'm kinda new here, I just got my Amiga 3000 yesterday (see future posting) but I can't beleive this one. It's ok to say "This program should be able to do this", it's another to say that you would write the "most AWSOME terminal on the market", if you "could program well". What's stopping you? 100% ML isn't the easiest thing to program in, although it is certainly easier on a cushy 68000 than on a ancient 6502 (I've done it!) Kudos to whoever has guts enough to write a terminal program and actually get it on the market. I have no terminal program to speak of so I'm open to getting one (again, see future post). Just my two cents. Bill Ung ung@felix.UUCP "IT WOULD have EVERYTHING" ... gimme a break.
news@csmil.umich.edu (09/06/90)
Subject:I have Postdriver, you guys want a review? Message-ID: <1990Sep5.162129.21412@csmil.umich.edu> Organization: Cognitive Science and Machine Intelligence Laboratory References: <1990Aug29.183249.8814@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> <ROSENBER.90Aug31115353@ra.abo.fi> <1990Sep1.193717.3150@idt.unit.no> Date: Wed, 5 Sep 90 16:21:29 GMT I just installed Postdriver on my Amiga. I am trying to do a sysematic evalualtion. If I get some requests, I will write a full review and post it. From: chymes@fribourg.csmil.umich.edu (Charles Hymes) Path: fribourg.csmil.umich.edu!chymes Charles Hymes
spworley@athena.mit.edu (Spaceman Spiff) (09/07/90)
Subject:Periphs for sale
Sender: daemon@athena.mit.edu (Mr Background)
Reply-To: spworley@athena.mit.edu (Spaceman Spiff)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 7 Sep 90 00:28:14 GMT
Lines: 25
I just got my A3000 after upgrading from my 500. I got a package deal
from my dealer which included some accessories I already had, so I'm selling
these off.
These are all NEW!
1) Amiga 2630(?) modem, with cable and AmigaTerm software. Also
has Procomm for use with a bridgeboard or on a (ssssss) PC. $90
2) Perfect Sound stereo digitizer. Comes with digitizer & software. $70
3) DeluxePaint III- the ultimate paint/animation program. Honestly, $90
it's a requirement for every Amiga! Still in its shrinkwrap!
I'll pay for shipping (in the US). These are all being sold seperately.
If you want to make an offer, I'll consider it, though I'll sell to the
first person who gives me the asking price.
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----------------------------------------------------------------------------d6b@psuecl.bitnet (09/14/90)
In article <lupe.653137533@alanya>, lupe@alanya.Germany.Sun.COM (Lupe Christoph - Sun Germany Consulting - Munich) writes: > The Amiga floppy hardware is more flexible than the regular integrated > floppy controllers. It can read/write *any* encoding (at least, MFM). > The issue is that the Amiga has support hardware to encode/decode GCR, > but not MFM. But MFM coding/decoding can be done in software, so it's > just slower. This isn't really correct. There's no built-in decode/encode, period. There is a rather obscure mode to sync on MSB (like the AppleII/Mac controllers), but it is never neccessary to use it. You could do GCR recoding via the trackdisk's RawRead and RawWrite if you wanted to. -- Dan Babcock
d6b@psuecl.bitnet (09/15/90)
In article <1966@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca>, lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) writes: > Since we are picking nits, I'll pick this one. The Amiga does indeed have > hardware support for GCR in at least one way. See page 243 of the Hardware > Reference Manual, where you set Precomp for MFM or GCR. Agreed that the actual > encoding/decoding needs to be done in software. Ah, a perfect opportunity to ask: What IS precompensation? I read a description once but it was totally incomprehesible and probably wrong. -- Dan Babcock
lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) (09/15/90)
In <1990Sep14.163643.20618@psuecl.bitnet>, d6b@psuecl.bitnet writes: >In article <1966@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca>, lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca (Larry Phillips) writes: >> Since we are picking nits, I'll pick this one. The Amiga does indeed have >> hardware support for GCR in at least one way. See page 243 of the Hardware >> Reference Manual, where you set Precomp for MFM or GCR. Agreed that the actual >> encoding/decoding needs to be done in software. > >Ah, a perfect opportunity to ask: What IS precompensation? >I read a description once but it was totally incomprehesible and probably >wrong. Best layman's explanation is that when you record bits on magnetic media and then read them back, the timing between bits is not the same when read as it was when written. The variances are dependent on the distance between bits, and on the density of the bits at any given time, both of which are a function of the actual patterns written on the media. Precompensation adjusts the timing of the bits as written in order to offset the changes in timing that will occur on reading. -larry -- It is not possible to both understand and appreciate Intel CPUs. -D.Wolfskill +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+ | // Larry Phillips | | \X/ lphillips@lpami.wimsey.bc.ca -or- uunet!van-bc!lpami!lphillips | | COMPUSERVE: 76703,4322 -or- 76703.4322@compuserve.com | +-----------------------------------------------------------------------+
usenet@rpi.edu (USENET Maint Acct) (09/20/90)
I find that SAS/C 5.10 doesn't work if you use pragmas, and system calls
such as BltBitMap which have more than 6 parameters in the call. They
have not answered my request for help. Anyone else notice this?
From: black@rpi.edu (Jerry Glomph Black)
Path: black
-----Bring Back the Lattice BBS, with real support, not
dial 900-LURID-SEX or whatever their number is!
Subject: SAS/C 5.10 Buggy!?!?
Followup-To:
Distribution: world
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Keywords: walker@unx.sas.com (Doug Walker) (09/24/90)
In article <K#H%?8%@rpi.edu> usenet@rpi.edu (USENET Maint Acct) writes: >I find that SAS/C 5.10 doesn't work if you use pragmas, and system calls >such as BltBitMap which have more than 6 parameters in the call. There is a bug with the -ff option and #pragmas. If you switch to a different floating point option, or do not use #pragmas, the problem goes away. I don't know what your problem is with more than 6 parms in the call; please contact SAS technical support and let them handle it. > They >have not answered my request for help. You sent me personal email over the net asking for help with this. I replied, but as I have mentioned on the net many times, our news and email connection is not reliable and you may not have received it. This is why you should always contact SAS Technical support instead of using the net. Another reason for not using the net is that tech support isn't ON the net; the official support channels are phone (919)677-8000, written mail (Amiga C technical support, SAS Institute, Cary, NC 27513), FAX (919)677-8123, or our BIX forum. Please contact SAS tech support via one of the above mechanisms. >-----Bring Back the Lattice BBS, with real support, not > dial 900-LURID-SEX or whatever their number is! The 900 number for tech support was cancelled long ago. You can continue to call the old Lattice number, or use the SAS switchboard number above. ***** =*|_o_o|\\=====Doug Walker, Software Distiller====== BBS: (919)460-7430 = *|. o.| || | o |// For all you do, this bug's for you! ====== usenet: ...mcnc!rti!sas!walker plink: dwalker bix: djwalker
leo@Tandem.COM (Leo Hejza) (09/27/90)
Is there a CAD program for the Amiga suitable for furniture making? I have an Amiga 2000 that I'd like to use for drawing my plans on. Ideally it would let you enter the size of each part, show the completed assembly in perspective, and provide a cutting list, etc. So, does such a beast exist? I'd appreciate any information you can provide. Please respond via E-Mail if possible. Leo.
mwm@decwrl.dec.com (My Watch Has Windows) (10/10/90)
In <6745@sugar.hackercorp.com> Peter da Silva wrote: >I can see Prefs/Customise: [...] >In fact it'd be great to customise *all* the mouse buttons. > > Left Mid Right Action > [x] [ ] [ ] SELECT > [ ] [ ] [x] PULL-DOWN MENU > [ ] [ ] [ ] POP-UP MENU > [ ] [x] [ ] ACTIVATE > [ ] [ ] [ ] EXTEND SELECT > [ ] [ ] [ ] REPEAT MENU > >Maybe a CX package could do this? It'd help for lefties. Well, part of it. The items in the action column are done by intuition, and the commodities code gets input events before they get to intuition. CX will let you tweak the input events, delete them, and even insert new ones. So you could probably do: Left Mid Right Action [x] [ ] [ ] LEFT (Select) [ ] [ ] [x] RIGHT (Menu) [ ] [ ] [ ] DOUBLE-LEFT (Popup Menu) [ ] [x] [ ] DOUBLE-RIGHT (Activate) [ ] [ ] [ ] SHIFT-LEFT (Extend Selection) The Action column indicates what comes out - a left or right mouse click, two left or right mouse clicks, or a shifted left mouse click (anyone want to add others). The comment in parenthesis indicate what the standard action for those buttons is. Others could, of course, be added. You can catch double-clicks coming in, but you can't modify the first click on the way out. Double-clicks are a pain to design into an interface. They need to work _after_ a single-click, they need to be an obvious extension of the single-click action, doubleing the single-click action must be "safe", and you have to verify that the double-click isn't really a pair of single clicks that happen to happen that fast. A real mouse button avoids all those problems. <mike
chymes@zug.csmil.umich.edu (Charles Hymes) (10/15/90)
Subject:The NeXT.
Organization: Cognitive Science and Machine Intelligence Laboratory
References: <1990Oct2.222545.5475@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> <4790006@hpihoah.HP.COM>
Date: Sun, 14 Oct 90 21:50:59 GMT
I hope this has not been posted here before, but I think this migh
clear up some misinformation, (and also shoe how little soem know
about the Amiga.) as you read this, keep in mind the Video Toaster,
the A3000UX, the $289 eathernet board, the latest color boards, etc...
Here goes....
Article 8066 of comp.sys.next:
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From: clp@wjh12.harvard.edu (Charles L. Perkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next
Subject: For more of a flavour of Intro day, here's a personal report.
Message-ID: <552@wjh12.harvard.edu>
Date: 24 Sep 90 05:42:49 GMT
Reply-To: clp@wjh12.UUCP (Charles L. Perkins)
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge MA
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I wrote this a few days ago, but thought the group might like to see it:
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For me, the day begin at 5:15am setting up a breakfast we were hosting to
"watch the dawn on a new era in computing." From about 6 to 8am, about 50 NeXT
employees and enthusiasts came to watch the sun rise from the roof garden, and
then I was off to Davies Symphony Hall for the Event.
Soon after 8, they let us in, and (having luckily gotten some press cred-
entials from NeXTWORLD) I ran to the first row and sat closest to the podium
(I knew I could almost touch the great man's shoes from there :-). During the
tense minutes waiting for the presentation to begin, R. Perot (billionaire for
many years and an investor in NeXT) came down the row, shaking everyone's hands
and welcoming them. What a thrill! Two years ago to the day, Steve had, in
this very same hall, first introduced the NeXT computer, and in that time I had
gone from an admirer to a developer, reporter, and enthusiast here in "the
front ranks" of the crowd. I was thrilled but also worried someone would throw
me out of there! :-)
Finally, the crowd was quiet and the lights came down, and Steve appeared.
He began simply: "This is the future of NeXT." (A quite serious statement,
since so much was riding on this introduction and the momentum it would
produce.) He went on to begin his slow dance with the audience, using the
gentle introduction of slides with more and more information to punctuate each
point in his usual dramatic style. You could almost taste the anticipation in
the room...
First, he began with the main thrust of the introduction: lessons learned.
NeXT had listened to its customers and had in January of this year started a
program code-named Warp 9 to correct their concerns. After only 9 months of
effort, their new products were substantially complete and the new version of
the system software was in place, quite a feat in itself, but within NeXT's
lean/mean corporate reach. He then specifically pointed out the feedback, how
users loved multitasking, UNIX, ease of use, Postscript, etc., but how they had
four serious complaints:
(1) Too slow (2) Too expensive
(3) Not enough applications (4) No color
He then turned to address each of these in turn and explain how their new
procucts, new software, and third party developers had solved them.
On the speed issue, NeXT has the first shipping 68040s in quantity and is
very pleased with their speeds (note that the numbers below are at the LOWEST
end of the range Motorola publishes about the 68040, so I think NeXT is being
conservative (or realistic) about these numbers). A slide shows the Mac II ci
and fx at about 4 and 7 MIPS (I'm trying to write this all from memory, so
forgive silly errors), the average of the IBM and Compaq 386 and 486 PCs at
around 7 and 12 MIPS, and the SPARC SLC and about 12 and the SPARC 1+ at about
15 MIPS. Now remember that NeXT wants to be a "Super PC" not a traditional
workstation, thus the comparison to other PCs, and thus also its positioning at
15 MIPS -- equal to the SPARC 1+ and exceeding all other available PCs. (With
more than 2 MFLOPS on-chip, this accelerates the NeXT integer ops by a factor
of 3 and F.P. by 5-10 which makes all Postscript drawing 2-4 times faster (I've
seen drawing speed on the 68040 myself)). As a final touch, NeXT points out in
a subtle way that actual throughput is more than MIPS (remember those 12 DMA
I/O controllers and separate paths?) but just showing a complex Mathematica 3-D
color plot and how long it takes to procude it on the screen (mostly F.P. but
some V.M. I/O and a little drawing): 250 seconds on the Mac II ci, about
linearly less on the fx, 386, 486 according to MIPS, 50 secs. on the SPARC SLC,
40 on the 1+, and ... 26 on the NeXT 68040. And that is on the smallest new
model with minimum memory. So in summary, Steve believes they have turned "Too
slow" into "Fast."
On the price issue, he showed the same MIPS slides with the prices written
above them for comparison. I believe they were approx. $8k for the ci, $12k
for the fx, about $7k and $10k for the 386/486 pair, $6500 for the SLC (all
machines had the cheapest disk added to them to get them up to the 105 MB
included in the NeXT), and $9k (?) for the 1+. The lowest cost NeXT comes in
at only $4995 retail price. This includes:
- 68040 with 8 MB RAM - DSP 56001 / CD sound out
- 105 MB disk with 2.0 pre-installed - MegaPixel 17" display
- SCSI-2 interface and connector - 2 improved RS-423 ports
- Usual (LOTS) of bundled software - Integrated microphone
- 2.88 MB floppy disk drive - Twisted pair and BNC ethernet
These last two items were also user feedback -- the optical disk has become an
option and the new 2.88 floppy is fully DOS and UNIX compatible for both 1.44
and 720k floppies, and the twisted pair on every NeXT means no rewiring for
ethernet will be necessary throughout corporate offices. Considering once
again the DSP, sound, and bundled applications, and noting that the SLC is
$1.5k greater without any of these, I go along with Steve when he concludes
"Too expensive" has been turned into "Low cost."
For the applications issue, there were four main thrusts. Steve presented
the four areas of interest as: (1) business productivity apps (traditionally
dominated by the PC market), (2) desktop publishing and layout apps (Mac),
(3) custom-designed and tailored high-powered apps (Sun), and (4) To-be-
discussed-later. I'll talk about each presentation in turn:
(1) By far my favorite part of the Intro was when Jim Manzi gave his talk
about Lotus' new product. He began: "We are here today to try to answer some
deep philosophical and theological questions. First, "Why?" <dramatic pause>
Then, "Why the NeXT?" ... And finally, "Does Bill Gates exist?" <loud suprised
laughter> My time does not allow me to explore the third question, but...."
and then later in the talk: "Why did Lotus abandon compatibility and step back
to reinvent from scratch the very meaning of the Spreedsheet? Because God told
us to." It was a dry, understated, wonderfully cosmic-religious-comic intro-
duction to the whole new approach Lotus had taken, delivered with brilliance
and style. I hope someone was recording it.
The actual demo of Lotus (done I believe by the product manager), was just
as stunning. It is hard to describe in words how simple and flexible Improv
is... First, it has generalized formulas that use English, like "Net = Gross
- - Costs" which apply EVERYWHERE those catagories appear, it has catagories of
rows and columns that organize and document the information (no numbers and
letters), and if you view the grouping of these catagories dynamically as
providing a multi-dimensional space of information, you can "flip" the axes of
this information space by pulling category names around in real-time. It is
impossible to describe how cool this is...imagine that you have your spread-
sheet organized by product type and the subcategories for price, cost, etc.,
then have columns that are Q1, Q2, Q3, etc. You can flip the x and y axes and
have Q1 at the left with columns for the various products and sub-columns for
the price, cost, etc. This reorganization takes the blink of an eye, and
allows you to play with the many ways your data can be viewed, graphed, etc.
in real time as easily as pulling it into the new form (literally). And for a
final touch, Lotus announced that until the end of this year, all new machines
and all 68040 upgrades will get a free copy of the product!! (it normally costs
$695) This will be more impressive when I tell you about up-front sales later.
Also on the list of these apps was PowerStep, a traditional spreedsheet by
Askton-Tate, WingZ by Informix, various organizational and client tracking
tools, etc. (Read the Fall 1990 product directory to see new shipping apps.)
(2) Next up was the head of WordPerfect who not only gave the talk for his
product, but demo'ed it himself. This was one of only a few glitches in the
seamless presentations -- he was a little nervous and messed up the demo, but
later Steve seemed to have noticed and showed off a little more of it himself
as part of his demos. The thing that WAS amazing about this presentation
was the speed at which re-laying-out was occurring. For about a five-page
document, he made it multiple columns, strecthed them, made it four columns,
adjusted, changed to flush right, left, center, etc. and EVERYTHING took less
than a blink. I literally could not seen any perceptible delay in any opera-
tion reorganizing the document. So not only was typing perfect and fast, every-
thing was. I thought this was a good demo of 68040 speed (and, I guess, good
algs. developed by WordPerfect). Also in this category was Quark Xpress for
the NeXT, new Framemaker, a new tool for precise layout of text by Glenn Reid
(Mr. Postscript), 1500 new fonts available for the NeXT via The Font Company,
Adobe announced Illustrator 3.0 will ship first for the NeXT, etc. In general,
an impressive list of apps for this type of activity, all fully compatible with
their PC or Mac cousins.
(3) Steve himself gave the example of how NeXT can do custom apps. (Though
in the previous talk, Mr. WordPerfect said an amazing thing---they had STARTED
their development effort for NeXT 6 months ago, and are going to be Beta this
month and shipping in 3...an effort fully 50% shorter than they had planned
for. Other developers site speed-ups as high as 3-to-1 in ports and much
faster for new development. REALLY! I'm one of them!)
He began showing the new custom, dynamically loadable objects in Interface
Builder. This allows your new Objective-C classes to be interpreted in real-
time and tested in I.B. (like a simple interpretive environment), and then be
placed in pallettes for other to use just like the standard buttons in I.B.
The demo he gave was using some Database Kit objects NeXT had thrown together.
Though simple in concept, if you stop to think what's happening in a COMMERCIAL
not a reserach computer, this is exciting. He placed a browser for retrieving
data and allowing selection, pulled down an icon representing the database,
used the Inspector to set which database and what data field he wanted to view,
connected the browser to the database, and then went into test mode. In
seconds, the data popped up from the database queries in the browser. He
popped back into Edit mode and added some fields and an RTF scrollable text
area for ancillary data and comments about the browser's current selection,
attached them all to the browser, and then tested again. Now when he selected
a browser entry, the various fields filled with their values from the database,
including a full multi-font comment popping into the RTF text area. Obviously,
editing, manipulating, etc. is now trivial.
The neat idea here was people selling large sets of pallettes, not just
apps, so that other developers can leverage directly on each other's ideas and
interface objects. Imagine a kit for Database, for Graphing, for Imaging in
3-D, added to the standard kits NeXT supplies for Music, Sound, Printing, etc.
each as easy to use as pulling buttons off the pallette and connecting them
together! This is the vision of fast, easy user and customer customization
that NeXT provides: they hope to do what more traditional workstations have
been doing but much, much better.
(4) Finally, Steve described a new area for applications he felt woule be as
important as the above three in the 90s: interpersonal computing. Claiming
that in the 80s, personal computing solved most of an individual's productivity
needs, that the 90s will solve more group and collaborative productivity needs.
(This is the research we began in the Smalltalk group when I was there around
'84/'85, we even used the same words... :-) The general concept here was one
of providing the environment for small, focused applications tools to interact,
creating a flexible set of services the user can call upon from anywhere, and
allowing the free and easy trading of these apps and their documents over nets.
He began by demoing some of the new features that 2.0 provides towards
such an environment. These ranged from a new FAX option (anything that can be
printed can just as easily be FAXed now, and the receiver gets a MUCH nicer
looking FAX since Postscript can image directly and avoid scanning errors;
FAXes can also be received and filed automatically, examined and edited) to a
whole dynamic structure for allowing applications to register as providing
services to other apps--old apps and new apps alike will see the new services
and will be able to take advantage of any future apps as well. Services pop-
up automatically for all available applications in a menu of that name in each
applications' main menu. One of the most powerful demos of these features
was when Steve popped up a received FAX in TIFF format (bits), selected the
service provided by a scanning app for OCR from the bitmap editor, requested
conversion to text, and a few seconds later, the text popped back in a fully
editable form!! This service would be available to any app that requested it.
The new workspace in 2.0 has a new "shelf" on which commonly used documents,
apps, and directories can be placed...like the radio buttons in a car radio,
these allow easy wandering and remembering of past locations (like pushd/popd).
The browser also allows multi-threaded copy/move/delete so the browser is not
tied up during long disk operations (it also shows progress in nice ways and
gives more status information and more options in general than before---it is
very nice). The Mail application has been improved and extended to live more
closely with other mail systems and to allow Icons to be dragged in AND OUT
of Mail. In general, 2.0 now allows any app to drag icons for files or for
directories into and out of any view, and what happens is up to the app. For
Mail, it does the tar/compress/uuencode on one side and uudecode/uncompresss/
un-tar on the other, so sound, music, graphics, bits, EPS, whole directory
structures, etc. can be trivially transported. Combined with services, this
is a powerful metaphor. One mail message suggested trying out some new legal
files in somebody's home path...Steve workspace-browsed over the Net to the
machine and the area suggested, messaged the Digital Librarian service to
add the directory into it's targets, it popped up loaded with the new files,
and he then searched around a little with it's standard full text search
(which, by the way, was 3-5 times faster than before!! They've re-optimized
the searching so it is almost blinding now.)
So, in summary, Steve said that "Not enough applications" had become
"Great applications."
And, to address the fourth complaint, no color, Steve saved the best for
last. He introduced a version of the $4995 NeXTstation called NeXTstation
Color (both of which look like Pizza boxes in black with a display on top).
This moderate color workstation has 16 bits (12 color, 4 alpha channel) of
depth per pixel, and uses the same Sony Trinitron awesome-sharpness 16" monitor
that the really-cool thing I'll describe in a minute uses, 12 MB of memory,
and costs only $7995. Note: all B&W and color NeXT products I'm telling you
about here have fully interchangeable software environments---the SAME code
running on the Postscipt above the depth 4 MegaPixel will work on the depth 16
color and the depth 32 color described below; they even do automatic dithering
and other tricks to make it look better than you's expect. All the color
machines use a TrueVu RAMDAC chip for window-by-window color depths, so for the
16-bit machine this means that ALL windows look good even if they have color
maps with incompatible entries---true RGB goes out the back correctly! This
"simple" color machine is obviously already better that the low-end Sun color
(and blows away PCs and Macs of course), but wait there's more!
The really exciting thing was that not only was there a new version of the
Cube with floppy, etc. (updated to be like NeXTstation and about $8k), but that
into this or any old cube could be added a NeXTdimension board. Now you might
be tempted to say, Yeah, so it's another RGB color board. Well...listen up.
NeXTdimension has 32 bits, with 8 bits of alpha, allowing all sorts of magic
special effects in draw and layout programs (like air-brushing in a pattern
behind a car and seeing THROUGH the car windows the pattern behind the car but
modified suitably by the color of the glass!). These are true 32 bits, no
color tables. It has an Intel i860 built-in that does a minimum of 30,000
Gourand-shaded polygon fills per second, and that allows the standard NeXT U.I.
to run as fast (and faster!) that the B&W U.I. even though it's pushing arount
8 times more data for every window! Full 32-bit color windows can be dragged
around in real-time just like the B&W windows can. Steve showed all sorts of
really striking color images, and when you look up close, it is truly photo-
realistic color like one of the best of the monitors at SigGraph.
Then came the section that brought the house down...Steve was looking at
a door in B&W in the bitmap editor, and he pressed what looked like a large
CD play button...the door was a frame from the Wizard of Oz just as Dorothy is
about to enter Oz, and as we watched, it came to life and played full-motion
color video in full-CD sound in real-time in the window. The Wizard of Oz ran
and ran as people clapped and clapped. The damn NeXTdimension has real-time
display of video on the screen, built-in JPEG compression in a VLSI chip that
performs up to 100-to-1 reduction on the fly for I and O, it has two RCA video
inputs (with an S-video slaved to one of them), and an RCA video output with
S-video as well. Also RGB output. Also any color monitor can be used for
output. Also, here's the price:
===> $ 3995 <===
When Steve announced that and then took a live video feed of himself, showed us
it updating in real-time, captured a frame into the editor, and then composited
in Donald Duck sitting on his hand, all in a few seconds, the crowd went wild.
This was a moment of Myth. All of the hardware and software ideas of that
momentous 1968 demo by Doug Engelbart were finally becoming available on an
afforable platform, and we could feel the world changing around us. It was
a feeling I won't soon forget.
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Well, as you can tell from my reaction above, I am buying a NeXTdimension
board and color monitor as soon as my budget allows. Along with my Digital
Ears, this will give me full-motion, real-time editing in CD-sound to/from
my VCR, any laserdisk, output to normal or S-video monitors, etc. I didn't
mention, but developer and educational prices will be 30-35% LOWER than the
above, so we are talking $3k for the cheapest NeXT and only $5.5 for the full
upgrade to NeXTdimension for current NeXT cube owners (including the amazing
Sony monitor). A brand new NeXTdimension LIST PRICE is $14k, about 1/3 to 1/4
the price of comparable ANYTHINGs, workstations, personal IRISes, PCs with all
those extra boards, etc.
I think this really is the beginning of a new era, just as PCs brought down
the price of individual computing, this will bring down the cost of individual
multi-media, integrated environments that can as easily download and utilize
the latest movie, MTV video, and local songwriter's MIDI performance info. as
they can create their own programs, music, video, and movies. All information
services can now begin to combine distribution channels, all forms of media
can now be edited. I forget to mention, the NeXT also has a cheap CD-ROM. And
don't forget the integrated networking, multi-media mail, and services. You
can see the possibilities as well as I...it is an exciting time we live in.
Charles
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set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) (12/06/90)
Subject:Demos Date: Wed, 5 Dec 90 16:54:21 GMT Lines: 21 Im looking for some great 3d animations to run. I would like to find the Sculpt 4D animation of the Fat Guy Juggling the glass balls. Does Any one know where to get it? And could someone please point me in the right direction to find good 3d animation without haveing to wast all my time downloading demos not knowing ratings on them????? Amiga Man <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-> <-> <-> <-> AMIGA MAN /// **** Kansas State University **** <-> <-> /// * Email set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) /// * Phone (913)-776-5027 Home * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\\/// * Phone (913)-539-7283 Modem * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\// <-> <-> \/ <-> <-> And Justice For All ... - Metallica <-> <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) (12/07/90)
Subject:Sculpt 4D Animation Sender: news@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu (The News Guru) Organization: Kansas State University, Dept. of Computing and Information Sciences Date: Thu, 6 Dec 90 17:48:39 GMT Lines: 19 Im looking for the Sculpt 4D animation of the Fat guy juggling the glass balls. Could any one help?????? Or should i just call the company??? If you guys dont know what im talking about turn to your fav. amiga mag about 4 or 5 months ago at the sculpt add. and it has a little picture of this animation. Could any one help???? <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-> <-> <-> <-> AMIGA MAN /// **** Kansas State University **** <-> <-> /// * Email set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) /// * Phone (913)-776-5027 Home * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\\/// * Phone (913)-539-7283 Modem * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\// <-> <-> \/ <-> <-> And Justice For All ... - Metallica <-> <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) (12/07/90)
Subject:Sculpt 4D Sender: news@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu (The News Guru) Organization: Kansas State University, Dept. of Computing and Information Sciences Date: Thu, 6 Dec 90 21:58:50 GMT Lines: 23 Well Im looking for the followning, these animations Mission Juggling Clerk Both by Bruce Granofsky Can any one help??? <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-> <-> <-> <-> AMIGA MAN /// **** Kansas State University **** <-> <-> /// * Email set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) /// * Phone (913)-776-5027 Home * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\\/// * Phone (913)-539-7283 Modem * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\// <-> <-> \/ <-> <-> And Justice For All ... - Metallica <-> <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) (12/08/90)
Subject:Sculpt 4D animations Keywords: XT BridgeBored for sale == $380 Sender: news@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu (The News Guru) Organization: Kansas State University, Dept. of Computing and Information Sciences Distribution: na Date: Sat, 8 Dec 90 04:53:48 GMT Lines: 19 Well thanks to a few people i have found 2 animations by Bruce Granofsky. If you havent seen one their in the abcfd20.larc.nasa.gov in the incoming/amiga dir under Clerk-Kent.lzh and ClerkPotato.lzh Worth looking at!!! But im still looking for the Mission and the Juggler by him? Does anyone know him?? Im also looking for some good sculpt 4d pics. and animations and I was also wondering if anyone has a good 24bit pic. Oh did newtek put out a demo reel for the video toaster????? I Would apperciate some help? And thanks to the people that have written letters to help me! :-) <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-> <-> <-> <-> AMIGA MAN /// **** Kansas State University **** <-> <-> /// * Email set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) /// * Phone (913)-776-5027 Home * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\\/// * Phone (913)-539-7283 Modem * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\// <-> <-> \/ <-> <-> And Justice For All ... - Metallica <-> <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) (12/14/90)
Subject:3D rendered pics. Lines: 25 Im looking for good animations besides the badge and all the ones on the ftp sites im looking for animations that YOU the uses have created. And also any good 3d rendered pics. anything *-) . Does anyone know where to get the laser disk for Dragons lair. My next semes- ters project is to create The Dragons Lair game with joystick controll for use for the Amiga User's that have access to laser disk players . I know this has been done. Any hints suggestions or the address to get the disk would help. <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-> <-> <-> <-> AMIGA MAN /// **** Kansas State University **** <-> <-> /// * Email set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) /// * Phone (913)-776-5027 Home * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\\/// * Phone (913)-539-7283 Modem * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\// <-> <-> \/ <-> <-> And Justice For All ... - Metallica <-> <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) (12/17/90)
Subject:Demos Date: Sun, 16 Dec 90 18:25:10 GMT Lines: 13 Well im still looking for some good 1 meg demos. anyone got any hints clues? Help :-) Oh also my site doesnt understand the ftp NewXanth it only understands umbers so could someone please give me the numbers to that ftp site/ Email set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu
set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) (12/18/90)
Subject:Awesome on the ftp site Lines: 18 Well I just downloaded the Awesome demo off the ftp site abcfd20.larc.nasa.gov And it doesnt work Has anyone else had this proble????? <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-> <-> <-> <-> AMIGA MAN /// **** Kansas State University **** <-> <-> /// * Email set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) /// * Phone (913)-776-5027 Home * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\\/// * Phone (913)-539-7283 Modem * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\// <-> <-> \/ <-> <-> And Justice For All ... - Metallica <-> <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) (12/20/90)
Subject:Dragon's Laid Disc Found! Date: Wed, 19 Dec 90 20:01:00 GMT Lines: 29 Well after alot of phone calls I finally found out were we can order Laser - Discs for the coin operated games. Dragon's Lair , Space Ace, ect. The Companys name is:El Dorado Products The Phone Number is: 1-(213)-630-3300 This posting is for all the amiga programmers that plan to use Amiga Vision to create the Home Version of Dragon's Lair. Any one who takes up this challenge I will share tips and frustrations and the solution also. Anyway anyone who would like to reply to this Email set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu P.S. This discs run in between $90-$120., <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-> <-> <-> <-> AMIGA MAN /// **** Kansas State University **** <-> <-> /// * Email set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) /// * Phone (913)-776-5027 Home * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\\/// * Phone (913)-539-7283 Modem * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\// <-> <-> \/ <-> <-> And Justice For All ... - Metallica <-> <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) (12/21/90)
Subject:Dragons Lair Disc Lines: 22 Well After alot of Phone calls. I finally found the Dragons Lair Laser Disc. My next project is to create the Amiga Version of Dragons Lair for personal use for now at least maybe later to commercial release. Any way if you interested in getting a disc for yourself heres the companys name and Phone # El Dorado Products : Phone # 1-(213)-630-3300 Now the discs cost around $90-$120 and they have all the popular Laser Discs So anyone who has done this or is going to do this i would like to get together with you and share ideas etc. <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-> <-> <-> <-> AMIGA MAN /// **** Kansas State University **** <-> <-> /// * Email set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) /// * Phone (913)-776-5027 Home * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\\/// * Phone (913)-539-7283 Modem * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\// <-> <-> \/ <-> <-> And Justice For All ... - Metallica <-> <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
rjtatz@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu (Robert J. Tatz) (12/22/90)
Subject: OSU-AUG meeting Summary: Expires: Sender: Followup-To: Distribution: cmh Organization: The Ohio State University (IRCC) Keywords: Amiga Users Disney Animation Video Toaster Multimedia Due to the fact that the December OSU-AUG meeting would fall on December 25th, there will not be a December meeting. Merry Christmas and Happy New Year. The January OSU-AUG meeting will be on January 29th at 5:30 PM in 120 BAKER. Our featured guests will be Eric Schwartz and Dr. Len Nasman. Eric is currently enrolled at the Columbus College of Art and Design (CCAD). His creations include Aerotoons and Amy the Squirrel. He will demo the new art program - the Disney Animation Studio. Len is currently a certified Commodore Amiga developer. Len will bring along his NewTek "Video Toaster" to demonstrate the power of this exciting video processing hardware. Quoted without permission from Infoworld, Dec 3/90, (COMDEX article) : "Turns out there is multimedia and multimedia. In the latter category is New Tek, makers of a hot Amiga product called The Video Toaster - a board that can do neat tricks mixing live TV feeds with other video sources." Enjoy the holidays. See you in the New Year. Bob rjtatz@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu -- Bob rjtatz@hpuxa.ircc.ohio-state.edu -> AMIGA (n.) - The BETAMAX of personal computers.
set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) (01/03/91)
Subject:Laser Disc & Amiga 1500???? Date: Thu, 3 Jan 91 13:52:57 GMT Lines: 19 Is their Amiga 1500 out??? Just saw an ad for one in the Amiga Ueser International. Any one have scoop on it???? Also Im looking for a Cheap Laser Disc Player with a RS-232 port. Can any one help??? <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-> <-> <-> <-> AMIGA MAN /// **** Kansas State University **** <-> <-> /// * Email set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) /// * Phone (913)-776-5027 Home * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\\/// * Phone (913)-539-7283 Modem * <-> <-> :-) :-) :-) \\// <-> <-> \/ <-> <-> And Justice For All ... - Metallica <-> <-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><->
karl@cbmvax.commodore.com (Karl Herrman - CATS) (01/05/91)
In article <1991Jan3.135257.6385@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) writes: >Subject:Laser Disc & Amiga 1500???? >Date: Thu, 3 Jan 91 13:52:57 GMT >Lines: 19 > > >Is their Amiga 1500 out??? Just saw an ad for one in the Amiga Ueser International. Any one have scoop on it???? > Can't help you with this one. >Also Im looking for a Cheap Laser Disc Player with a RS-232 port. Can any one >help??? > One of the least expensive ones I know of is the Pioneer 2200. Its SRP is $895US. The least expensive Sony is the 1200 at $995. Both of these have RS-232 ports and are compatable with AmigaVision. > ><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-> ><-> <-> ><-> AMIGA MAN /// **** Kansas State University **** <-> ><-> /// * Email set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu * <-> ><-> :-) :-) :-) /// * Phone (913)-776-5027 Home * <-> ><-> :-) :-) :-) \\\/// * Phone (913)-539-7283 Modem * <-> ><-> :-) :-) :-) \\// <-> ><-> \/ <-> ><-> And Justice For All ... - Metallica <-> ><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-><-> > Karl Herrmann C.A.T.S. Software Specialist
csg019@cck.cov.ac.uk (-~=Zaphod=~-) (01/09/91)
In article <1991Jan3.135257.6385@maverick.ksu.ksu.edu> set@phobos.cis.ksu.edu (Steve E Tietze ) writes: >Subject:Laser Disc & Amiga 1500???? >Date: Thu, 3 Jan 91 13:52:57 GMT >Lines: 19 > > >Is their Amiga 1500 out??? Just saw an ad for one in the Amiga Ueser International. Any one have scoop on it???? > Yes there is, i've got one. It's not by commodore, its by a UK firm called checkmate. All it does is turn your amiga A500 into a PC lookalike, it put the keyboard in a new cover and puts all the electronics in a sturdy metal case for your monitor to stand on. You can then junk your old plastic A500 case. The good thing about this is that it allows you to fit an overider board, which has the capability to expand and A500 beyond a B2000. -- *********/// O O **A member of S.H.I.T. (Super High Intelegence Team)**///*** * /// u Fight, defeat and kill organized laming. /// * * \\\ /// --- Zaphod (TCC) csg019@uk.ac.cov.cck ok? \\\ /// * ****\\X//**********************************************************\\X//******
cleland@sdbio2.ucsd.edu (Thomas Cleland) (01/11/91)
In article <1991Jan9.151250.14354@cck.cov.ac.uk> csg019@cck.cov.ac.uk (-~=Zaphod=~-) writes: >>Is their Amiga 1500 out??? Just saw an ad for one in the Amiga Ueser International. Any one have scoop on it???? >> >Yes there is, i've got one. It's not by commodore, its by a UK firm called >checkmate. All it does is turn your amiga A500 into a PC lookalike... But there's more... the Amiga 1500 (as opposed to the A1500 above) is a Commodore-UK machine which is simply an Amiga 2000 with two floppies. The 2000 seems to have a hard drive standard in the UK (unconfirmed), so the 1500 fills the gap. -- // / Thom Cleland / It is easier / // / tcleland@ucsd.edu / to get forgiveness / \X/ / ASOCC * Amiga Users' Group at UCSD / than permission... / \____________________________________\____________________/
4225_5105@uwovax.uwo.ca ( magundi ) (02/26/91)
still here!!!!!!!!!
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