ddrex@gorgo.UUCP (11/22/86)
/* Written 4:06 pm Nov 9, 1986 by reintom@rocky2.UUCP in gorgo.UUCP:comp.sy.ibm.pc */
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In article <579@bucsb.bu.edu.UUCP>, madd@bucsb.bu.edu.UUCP (Jim Frost) writes:
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<How about:
<Go through COMMAND.COM and find the COPY command. This is really easy to do
<with Norton Utilities. Make it anything you want, the more bizarre the better.
<This should disable the COPY command within DOS. Then just write your own,
<naming it anything you want. This way, you can restrict access better. It's
<hardly foolproof, but it oughta work to keep at least some people from
<copying things. This is simple and quick, and should help until some real
<guru comes along with a better way.
<
< - Jim Frost * The Madd Hacker -
That's not so hard to thwart unless there are no floppy drives on the
machine. Someone can walk in with a DOS disk, boot from it, and copy any
file off the hard disk. I really don't know how you can effectively do
what you want to do, except the following:
Rewrite the file BIOS functions in DOS and rearrange the FAT so that it is
non-standard. This is very risky and I would not think that it would be
safe, but I guess it's possible.
--
Tom Reingold -- Rockefeller Univ, 1230 York Av, NY 10021; (212) 570-7709
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It turns out that there is a pd (shareware) harddisk protection program that
does something very much like that. It dinks with the FAT, and if you don't
know the password, you can't access the disk, regardless of how you boot
the machine. The program installs itself as a device driver. It can be
overcome if you're real handy with a debugger, and you exactly what it
altered on the disk. I have not used, tho, and don't recall the name of it.
You can get more info from the bbs number listed below.
David Drexler
-<- UUCP: {ihnp4,okstate,uokmax}!occrsh!gorgo!ddrex
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-<- AT&T: [405] 728-2463 (data only: 2400/1200/300 bps)berger@clio.UUCP (11/24/86)
Golden Bow Systems has a commercial program that works like that. I'm not sure how secure it is, since a user can always boot his own DOS - but I think the Golden Bow software actually encrypts the disk file, and translates it on the fly.
kneller@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Don Kneller%Langridge) (11/25/86)
Why not disable the floppy with a keyed switch? Better still, just disable the write enable switch (so the disk can't be written to). -- Don Kneller UUCP: ...ucbvax!ucsfcgl!kneller ARPA: kneller@cgl.ucsf.edu BITNET: kneller@ucsfcgl.BITNET
zepp@olamb.UUCP (John Brun) (11/26/86)
One of the fabulous things about the PC-world is that somehow there always seems to have been some company, who has solved ones current problem with a piece of standard software. Lattice Inc. has a product called "secretdisk" which protects both floppies and harddisk from unauthorized copying. Lattice can be reached through 312-858-79 50 Best regards Zepp (john Brun)
wb8foz@ncoast.UUCP (11/27/86)
> Article <9956@cgl.ucsf.edu.ucsfcgl.UUCP> From: kneller@ucsfcgl.UUCP (Don Kneller%Langridge) | Why not disable the floppy with a keyed switch? Better still, just | disable the write enable switch (so the disk can't be written to). This was suggested before, yet seemingly ignored. It struck me as a simple, very workable system. But, as it was a *hardware* solution, requiring the use of such dangerous tools as screwdrivers, etc, I suspect many netlanders would pass over it as evil magic:-) Myself, I regard anything written in Cobol, RPG, Basic, APL or in a FAT Table such as incantations of the chief fireman himself. Guess thats what makes life interesting. -- decvax!cwruecmp!ncoast!wb8foz ncoast!wb8foz@case.csnet (ncoast!wb8foz%case.csnet@csnet-relay.ARPA) "SERIOUS? Bones, it could upset the entire percentage!"