wahec@ecsvax.UUCP (Toni M. Hutto) (11/11/86)
IBM-XT text (WordPerfect)--> Macintosh Plus Any help would be appreciated to information leading to the capture of a communications package that would accept the XT's Wordperfect documents---as typed! and deliver it to the Macintosh for use with MicroSoft Word & Pagemaker! The latest version of Red Ryder hasn't worked....it strips returns and puts in its own. We have a 60 page book already on the IBM and would like to design layout and use the lazerwriter for production! Thanks in advance! reply to wahec@ecsvax
tmangan@infinet.UUCP (Tim Mangan) (11/13/86)
In article <727@chinet.UUCP> wmf@chinet.UUCP (William M. Fischer) writes: >In article <2047@dalcs.UUCP> lane@dalcs.UUCP writes: >>talk of getting a uVAX or similar mini. Question... Is there a local- >>area-network product that will allow all of these machines (especially >>the PC's and Mac's) to be connected in some reasonable fashion, preferrably > >I think that KERMIT may hold at least a partial solution to your problem. > We currently have a running 'network' of machines which include several UN*X machines, PC's, HP9000's, and a Mac. The Unix machines (Vax 750, uVAX, SUN 3) are ethernetted together. Other Vaxs, uVaxs (VMS) talk via Kermit to various UN*X machines. The Mac talks Kermit to the SUN (mostly to use the lasar-writer). The PC/AT on the other hand uses PC-NFS to talk to the SUN (and share it's very large disk!!!!!). Kermit is cheap. WMF told you how to get it, and all you need for hardware is a RS232 line (perhaps with some pin or sex change depending on the specific connection). You are limited to 9.6kb. Kermit can be found for almost any OS. PC-NFS is expensive. It cost us about $900 (I think) for hw & sw. It is fast. I havn't checked out actual throughput, but we are talking about megabyte-land here. In addition to file transfer, you get remote disk access (what the PC thinks is it's D disk is really on your SUN), telnet (effectivly remote login in one direction only--DOS isn't a multi user OS yet!), and remote printer support. It requires SUN on the other end, and DOS on the PC. It isn't available, and I havn't heard of anyone offering it for a Mac or Apple (yet). We love this product, if only it would work when DOS is loaded in as a QNX task (sigh, some people want everything)! Contact Sun MicroSystems for more info. I have no connection with....... .... just a satisfied customer! -- -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FROM: Timothy R. Mangan Warning: Bugs are multiplying! PHONE: 1-617-681-0600 Bugs are multiplying! UUCP: decvax!wanginst!infinet!tmangan Call a cop! --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
tim@hoptoad.uucp (Tim Maroney) (11/14/86)
Thanks to the people who mentioned our transparent file access product,
TOPS. None of these articles mentioned that we have a VMS version in the
works, which is not surprising since it hasn't been officially announced.
However, we are allowed to talk about it, and to mention that work is now
proceeding on it full-time. Whether the VAXes in question are running UNIX
or VMS, or both, TOPS will allow them to act as file servers for Macs and
PCs. Macs and PCs can also serve each other, with the server code running
in the background - it is not neccessary to dedicate a machine to file
service exclusively.
Oh, release dates? Well, the UNIX server has been in beta test for a while
and should be coming out first quarter 1987. The VMS server will almost
certainly be out by second quarter 1987. The Mac and PC versions have been
out since this summer.
As Mike Smith at Apple mentioned, for physical connection the Kinetics
products are a good bet. There are two options, putting the VAXen on
Appletalk using a Kinetics Appletalk Q-Bus card, or using the Kinetics
Appletalk-Ethernet gateway and putting the VAXen on the Ethernet. In 1987,
there will be some other options. The most significant one is ditching
Appletalk, which frankly is just a little bit slow, and going to Ethernet.
Ethernet interfaces are available for the VAX line, there are Ethernet cards
for the PC/XT/AT line, and Kinetics has announced a forthcoming Macintosh
SCSI-Ethernet card, presumably using smart buffering so as not to flood the
Mac, and so probably being a bit pricey. We will be coming out with
compatible TOPS versions, running RFP (our remote function protocol) on top
of the Internet TCP protocol rather than the Appletalk ATP protocol.
Currently UNIX and VMS TOPS connections are not peer-to-peer; they are
server-only modules. In 1987, we have plans to add client functionality to
the UNIX and VMS TOPS implementations. This is not so much to connect UNIX
to UNIX or VMS to VMS, since there are already decent products which do this
and which are fully TOPS compatible, but to connect UNIX to VMS and vice
versa, as well as to all the other operating systems we will be adding in
the next couple of years. (Unlike some other products, TOPS really is an
inter-operating-system network; to the best of my knowledge, we have the
only product that *started* by supporting multiple operating systems. Other
vendors who had single-OS products, but thumped their chests about how they
were really OS-independent, have been having rude awakenings when they
actually started work on other operating systems....)
--
Tim Maroney, Electronic Village Idiot
{ihnp4,sun,well,ptsfa,lll-crg,frog}!hoptoad!tim (uucp)
hoptoad!tim@lll-crg (arpa)ddb@viper.UUCP (David Dyer_Bennet) (11/30/86)
In article <1284@hoptoad.uucp> tim@hoptoad.UUCP (Tim Maroney) writes: >......................... (Unlike some other products, TOPS really is an >inter-operating-system network; to the best of my knowledge, we have the >only product that *started* by supporting multiple operating systems. Other >vendors who had single-OS products, but thumped their chests about how they >were really OS-independent, have been having rude awakenings when they >actually started work on other operating systems....) >-- >Tim Maroney, Electronic Village Idiot A local Minneapolis company, Network Systems Corporation, has been producing networking hardware and software to support multiple operating systems since they were formed (70's sometime). They currently support IBM VM, IBM MVS, CDC, Burroughs, Sperry, Honeywell, Vaxi (both VMS and Ultrix), tandem, prime, pc/ix, pc-dos, xenix, etc, etc, etc. (I am currently on contract at Network Systems) -- David Dyer-Bennet ...ihn4!umn-cs!{viper,starfire}!ddb sysop of Fido 14/341 (612) 721-8967 -- -- David Dyer-Bennet ...ihn4!umn-cs!{viper,starfire}!ddb sysop of Fido 14/341 (612) 721-8967