[net.general] This article ought not belong here.

notes@asgb.UUCP (04/10/84)

X <--  Offering to the line gobbler.

A request to net users (such as Mark Horton) :

The flames that have been directed to a myriad of users requesting that
they move a discussion from one group to another, due to the ALLEGED
improper use of a news group, do not belong in :

net.announce 

> If you want to discuss this, please confine the discussion to net.news.

or in net.general 

> The newsgroup net.net-people now exists for this sort of thing.

or in any of the other news groups (with the possible exception of
net.flame). Having read the net for some time now, we know that we are
really tired of reading these messages under a reference to the
original discussion. The posting of a request to move a discussion is as
inappropriate as a posting of a message to the wrong group. 

If you feel that the message belongs somewhere else, contact the
user by e-mail and let them know. Excercise some net maturity.
Let them decide the appropriate action from that point. This net
should not be an outlet for self-proclaimed traffic cops who administer
justice in public. 

Not to be hypocritical, this message could have been sent to the individual
offenders. However, this has been posted in hopes to put an end to this 
sort of nonsense once and for all.


>From the maligned keyboards of

	A few SICK and TIRED readers 
	of the news (yes, we try to read it)
	who can't stand it ANYMORE.

notes@asgb.UUCP (04/10/84)

The previous note appearing with this login from our site
was not the opinion of our notesfile administration staff.
The notesfile administration staff (me)  has no official 
opinion on usage, or on Mark Horton.  I personally have 
no opinion on the matter, having not read either group 
for a period of nearly a year.  

Kris A. Kugel
Burroughs Advanced Systems Group
Boulder, Colorado

mark@cbosgd.UUCP (Mark Horton) (04/12/84)

Well, as long as I'm being maligned in public, I guess I'm obligated
to respond in the same forum.

Whenever a person does something that is highly visible, there are always
going to be people who gripe, no matter what that person does.
Guiding Usenet in a direction that isn't self destructive, as I do in my
(nearly nonexistent) spare time, is such a position.  I am used to people
grumbling, after all, you can't please all the people all the time.

I always try very hard to make decisions that reflect the opinions of the
people on the net.  I have put many policies into place that were different
than my own personal opinion, because the majority wanted something different.
In the case of discussions in net.general, when they get out of hand, I
urge the participants to move or halt them.  I believe that most people on the
net appreciate this.  If someone can convince me they don't, I'll gladly
butt out.  (By the way, I suspect most of us are getting tired of the
"USSR on Usenet" debate.)  And it should be obvious why mail won't work.

Since the person who posted this particular article did not have the
guts to sign their name, I feel no need to take it seriously.

	Mark Horton