[comp.sys.ibm.pc] Adding 360K drive to AT clone: Help needed

ralf@cad.cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown) (01/10/87)

I have recently purchased an AT clone (see my previous post for a 
rave review) and am trying to add a second disk drive.  I have 
two TEAC 55B drives from my previous computer, but neither of them 
will work in the AT, either as drive A or drive B.  The drive which 
came with the system is a TEAC 55BV, which has completely different 
jumpers.  I asked a friend who has a PC with TEAC drives for the 
jumper settings, and they were the same as I had them set (DS1, HM, 
IU, SM, and PM all shorted). 

I have traced the problem to the solenoid not pulling Head 0 to 
the disk surface when the motor is powered up (the 55BV does not 
have a solenoid, just a mechanical interlock that prevents Head 0 
from moving all the way toward Head 1 when there is no disk in 
the drive).  I never noticed the lack of the characteristic click 
on accessing the drive, since I had become so used to it that I 
didn't hear it anymore, and the 55BV has no click. 

Now my question:  Has anyone out there used a TEAC 55B drive on 
an AT clone?  If so, please let me know the jumper settings and 
any other pertinent info.

MUCH Thanks in advance.

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mjg@ecsvax.UUCP (Michael Gingell) (01/12/87)

In article <1037@cad.cs.cmu.edu>, ralf@cad.cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown) writes:
> I have recently purchased an AT clone (see my previous post for a 
> rave review) and am trying to add a second disk drive.  I have 
> two TEAC 55B drives from my previous computer, but neither of them 
> will work in the AT, either as drive A or drive B.  The drive which 

The AT uses 2 additional lines to the floppy drives to support the
special HD 1.2 Meg drives, Pin 6 (I think) is used as the reduced 
write current control to tell the HD drives when to write to regular
360 K floppies.  Pin 34 is an output from each drive which tells
the AT when a disk has been changed.

Pin 34 is the culprit. Most pre-AT 360K floppy drives have thisis 
connected as an alternate drive 3 select. If you plug such an unmodified
drive into an AT it will hang. You must either cut the wire to pin 34
in the ribbon cable, or do what I did, that is cut the trace to pin
34 on the drive. All it takes is a sharp knife.  Jumper the drive as
number 1 (counting from 0), and away you go ....

Mike Gingell     ....decvax!mcnc!ecsvax!mjg

ralf@cad.cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown) (01/12/87)

In article <2543@ecsvax.UUCP> mjg@ecsvax.UUCP (Michael Gingell) writes:
>In article <1037@cad.cs.cmu.edu>, I write:
>> I have recently purchased an AT clone (see my previous post for a 
>> rave review) and am trying to add a second disk drive.  I have 
>> two TEAC 55B drives from my previous computer, but neither of them 
>> will work in the AT, either as drive A or drive B.  The drive which 
>
>The AT uses 2 additional lines to the floppy drives to support the
>special HD 1.2 Meg drives...
>...  Pin 34 is an output from each drive which tells
>the AT when a disk has been changed.
>
>Pin 34 is the culprit. Most pre-AT 360K floppy drives have this
>connected as an alternate drive 3 select. If you plug such an unmodified
>drive into an AT it will hang. You must either cut the wire to pin 34
>in the ribbon cable, or do what I did, that is cut the trace to pin 34
>
>Mike Gingell     ....decvax!mcnc!ecsvax!mjg

Thanks, Mike!  Disabling pin 34 did the trick.

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